Distorted Travesty

Alice · Post by **Alice** » 10 years ago

ZephyrBurst wrote:Here's a fun thing. Based solely on emails/comments/irc rants/etc sent to me, Dusty Ruins is the #1 level that has stopped the most people and made them quit the game due to the difficulty. I'd say a good 1/3 of my hatemail (Well last year anyway) was based solely on the scenario where the rocks drop in the room.

raocow, you handle yourself well, even without the dash.

The part that's getting me so far is

Only other place I've died this many times is the Donut Plains secret area.

Slit08 · Post by **Slit08** » 10 years ago

Well, I have played up to exactly this part. It took me a little bit longer than an hour. So once raocow and me know where my save files are listed I can send it to raocow. We just need to get informed by Darkyoshi!

Greader · Post by **Greader** » 10 years ago

A quick update on the whole save-file thing. As it turns out, the combination of having a good grasp of the controls and skipping all the talking means that it might take a lot shorter than anticipated. In other words, after writing my last sentence I was able to get to the Diluted Mansion in the time inbetween. I do have to go to sleep since it is getting late over here but once I am able to tomorrow I will try to get the rest of the way done. In the best case expect a save-file in less than 24 hours.

edit: Dammit, beaten. Oh well, was fun just mowing down through the early part of the game.

@slit: On the whole save-file thing though, it seems that it is saved in the GameDetails file, as there is a warning about the possibility of corrupting savedata and the file in some lines mention which spells I had equipped and such. Maybe sending the GameDetails folder to raocow might do it, just make a backup of raocow's file, put yourfile into there instead of his and start the game. After the video is done he just deletes the GameDetails file and puts the backup/old file back in as if nothing happened.

Note that I have no idea if this works so it might be best to wait until ZephyrBurst responds to this. But I think this is probably how you would do that,

Slit08 · Post by **Slit08** » 10 years ago

Thanks a lot. Yeah, I guess it might be saved in the Game Details. Now how do I send this file to raocow without corrupting it? I don't have his email adress so I cannot send him an email. And I do not know if I can send files in talkhaus PMs!

Octagon · Post by **Octagon** » 10 years ago

Oh, great, Slaix (it's you, right?)! I was looking forward to seeing how raocow will handle the Flame Instigator, and thanks for enabling us to watch that fight.

I hope it works out.

Greader · Post by **Greader** » 10 years ago

There are services that let you upload a file so that others can download that file, so you might use that and give raocow the link. I will admit that I never uploaded something though so I don't have any experiences on stuff like which sites are the best to use for that, if you have to pay to upload something and so on so... yeah, I am useless.

Comedy option: Copy the whole textfile, paste it into a pm and send it to raocow, let him paste that whole thing into the file (Of course after making a backup), start up the game and see what horrible monstrosities we unleash that way. This is likely the most dumb way to do this but it might just work.

edit for clarity.

ZaCloud · Post by **ZaCloud** » 10 years ago

Not sure if this is too late or not gonna work or whatever, but I thought I'd direct to advice about Camtasia to see if the video can be rescued.

Go on Google and type in this: camtasia video "didn't save"
(yes, with the quote marks)

This is one of the results: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-intern ... lease.html
though other results may be more relevant, depending.

Really hope it can be salvaged, it sounds like it would be a fun video. D:

Where is Morning Rescue when we need it?

Post by **raocow** » 10 years ago

So I've had a lot of peeps that jumped to the occasion to help me, and for that I say thank you! I kind of want to.. to ask y'all to keep staggered saves of different places I get too, if only something stupid like this happens, hahaha~

I managed to salvage some things out of camtasia but it's horribly desynched and misses a huge part of it. So tomorrow I'll upload -that- to approximate my first reactions, and hopefully I'll be able to record it properly for wednesday's upload.

Post by **raocow** » 10 years ago

Alright, I tested quickly, and Cirno's file/hack worked.

SO, for the future, all you crazy people - if you could keep back-up toward key elements this way, your work wouldn't be wasted! It'd be great for me just because it would remove a lot of stress from this thang.

Again, thank you, THANK YOU and hyper-thank-you everyone.

ZephyrBurst · Post by **ZephyrBurst** » 10 years ago

Oh wow, I missed some craziness while I was out today, but looks like everyone solved it. It is the GameDetails file. All DT looks for is that it has that name and is an ini. Making a copy won't disrupt anything. Then again, you all know that now.

Greader's comedy option would actually work.

@cc12321: Using Earth Shift was actually the idea there, well an option anyway. raocow made it look fairly easy even without dashing, so that's something. He has a really good grasp on general maneuvering, which helps a ton on... everything in DT. It always looks impressive to me when someone jumps through a gap of anything like at 8:20.

cc12321 · Post by **cc12321** » 10 years ago

raocow wrote:I managed to salvage some things out of camtasia but it's horribly desynched and misses a huge part of it. So tomorrow I'll upload -that-

Looks like tomorrow we will have a distorted travesty of a video.

Sebby19 · Post by **Sebby19** » 10 years ago

Gah, the high concentration of worms was a perfect opportunity to activate rave mode

Cirno · Post by **Cirno** » 10 years ago

Sebby19 wrote:Gah, the high concentration of worms was a perfect opportunity to activate rave mode

But he's raocow! He don't need no stinkin' rave mode to have a party with worms! (And not a world party either.)

Also yes, as cc said, you are now able to get all items in all past areas. (I don't think it's deserving of a spoiler to be honest) Some of them are pretty hellish though, so you might want to hold back for now!

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » 10 years ago

Has raocow used "rave mode" even once since the tutorial? I'm not sure if I just don't know how to recognize it, but as best as I can tell he's just ignored that feature.

Which is pretty much what I'd do in this game, I expect. I tend to pretend "temporary boost"-type bonuses don't exist, unless it's designed to show up at specific times. Since each individual section was made to be beatable without "rave mode", I would feel like I shouldn't use it, or I'll never get good enough at the game to beat the REALLY hard stuff.

ano0maly · Post by **ano0maly** » 10 years ago

I just use it in areas with lots of enemies but otherwise don't have much special features, so that I can more easily rack up experience and Internets.

Octagon · Post by **Octagon** » 10 years ago

Greader wrote:There are services that let you upload a file so that others can download that file, so you might use that and give raocow the link. I will admit that I never uploaded something though so I don't have any experiences on stuff like which sites are the best to use for that, if you have to pay to upload something and so on so... yeah, I am useless.

Comedy option: Copy the whole textfile, paste it into a pm and send it to raocow, let him paste that whole thing into the file (Of course after making a backup), start up the game and see what horrible monstrosities we unleash that way. This is likely the most dumb way to do this but it might just work.

edit for clarity.

I want this as a bonus episode, with small "mistakes" added to the file (if there is a way to make "mistakes" that create data legible as a savegame). I guess you can't hope for Null Driver-ish graphics glitches that turn fireballs into muffins, but oh well.

Greader · Post by **Greader** » 10 years ago

Octagon wrote:I want this as a bonus episode, with small "mistakes" added to the file (if there is a way to make "mistakes" that create data legible as a savegame).

Thinking about it, the file seems to just consist of event-flags. If you look into it, a lot of lines end in either a 0 or a 1. PRobably most flags start out at zero0 and once you get to a new area, you unlock an ability or just did some plot-stuff one of these zero's turns into a one, signaling the game that the player managed to do something.

IF someone were to say, change a few zeros to ones and some ones to zeros without knowing what each flag exactly do the result would be pretty unpredictable. Of course this can lead to heavy spoilers so this should be done after the game is over.

You could also change the currently equipped spells to spells you couldn't possibly have at that point and do other kinds of shenanigans with the levels. Of course doing such stuff mightjust lead to a crash once the game notices that things are kind of screwy. All in all it wouldn't lead to MIssingno-style bugs and such but it could be interesting.

Flynn · Post by **Flynn** » 10 years ago

Flame Instigator there is the boss I had the hardest time with in the game, and I have a few things to say about him which may or may not be spoilers at this point, I don't know since raocow's video got sucked into a distortion, so I'll spoiler it anyway:

Either way, I guess today is just a day for raocow to have huge problems with bosses.

Sebby19 · Post by **Sebby19** » 10 years ago

Camtasia, why do you got to go and do a thing.

The boss looks fun though.

cc12321 · Post by **cc12321** » 10 years ago

Flame Instigator added

Still unknown

That was definitely a video. I having it end prior to the Air Dash and other surprise at the end of dusty ruins is a good thing I guess, to keep it as a surprise for those watching the game blind.

Rave mode I find is only really useful in kill room traps. Although I hope raocow uses it enough in the LP to get the second bonus graphic for it, as I always laughed when he appeared.

Flynn · Post by **Flynn** » 10 years ago

cc12321 wrote: Still unknown
Dusty ruin areas and enemies

Those are mostly from Actraiser's island and desert town stage-2's.

cc12321 · Post by **cc12321** » 10 years ago

Flynn wrote:
cc12321 wrote: Still unknown
Dusty ruin areas and enemies
Those are mostly from Actraiser's island and desert town stage-2's.

Oh whoops forgot to remove that when I added them yesterday.

Post by **raocow** » 10 years ago

you know it was a little naive of me to think that having an air-dash would cull this mental insurection shenaniganing.

Octagon · Post by **Octagon** » 10 years ago

Trust me, you don't wanna know what a 'latch crystal' is.

Is the 'big boss' theme (the epic guitar thing played e. g. in the Flame Instigator fight, not the OMG HUEG DISTORTED DISTORTION MNOSTER!111! one) a remix of or related to 'Faith is for the Transient People'? It sounds a bit like it, and I know OCRemixes are often fundamentally different from the originals and stuff, so it could be one...

ano0maly · Post by **ano0maly** » 10 years ago

By the way, just because the enemy (like Flame Instigator) is crippled by an ability, like Water Blast, doesn't mean you have to keep using it.

The crippling ability isn't always the weakness. Instead, once the enemy is crippled, its overall defense is lowered. Then you can switch to a more effective attack until crippling wears off.

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