Metroid 5: Wanted; What the next Metroid game should be

[Clamestarebla]

Ok so those are kind of my hopes for what Nintendo intends to do with the Metroid franchise in the future. Let's go!

First, remove Other M from continuity and bring back the Prime games in the timeline because Other M doesn't deserve to be considered a Metroid game and it would make Fusion less pointless and Adam still be a cool character. Also Samus would seem a lot less stupid.

Second, canon-ize the theory that Adam died during the events of Metroid 1 (or 3? I don't remember) trying to save time for Samus to get her stuff back before fighting Ridley and Mother Brain.

Third, give voice actors a soul for fuck sake.

And now, time for plot.

So this game should happen after the events of Fusion. Samus is a criminal in the eyes of the Federation and there's still that bounty hunter from Hunters that we see at the end of Prime 3 on her tail. She still has Computer Adam with her and doesn't, unlike Other M, follow his order blindly and is in complete trance everytime she interacts with him. So, since her suit was completely fucked up during Fusion, she tries to rebuild it. But of course, the Power Suit is Chozo technology so when she tries to repair it, she derps and all her upgrades go away. So, what to do? Go to the Federation HQ and try to find some conspiracy papers about them trying to build Power Suits themselves or some other shit. Then she flies to [insert Planet here] in order to find something that could help her remake upgrades. And since Energy tanks and Missiles are always conveniently hidden everywhere in the galaxy, those aren't much of a problem. As she gets her stuff back, we learn about Federation conspiracy #9001 and decide that we must expose this conspiracy to the world so that Samus can be loved by everyone once more!

Now, gameplay-wise.

Other M had... something going on but it fucked up. The idea of having 3rd person and 1st person cameras isn't bad but it was done incorrectly. It should be done this way; 3rd person when you are in Morph Ball or Zero Suit. And 1st person when you are in Power Suit. When Samus is in Zero Suit, she should have more ninja-like abilities like in Fusion and Zero Mission that could be used in stealth segments and such whereas the Power Suit should be more of a brute force/tanky thing.

Bosses that would be cool to have:

Nightmare: To get the Gravity Suit feature. Have him get some build-up unlike Other M
Sylux: This guy needs to die
Ridley: He never dies. Might as well.
Kraid: Me wants 3D Kraid

The game should require use of either the Gamepad or the Classic Controller because no f-ing way they should use the sideways wiimote ever again.

[Bean]

I always kind of get a chuckle out of Other M. It could have been told decently if the creator was a good writer. Let the suit be damaged until clearing the heat run, have some sort of PTSD from childhood with all the people of Samus' youth running around (even though that still makes little sense), have Adam make a sacrifice after you get to play Not Sector 0 instead of cutting it out... Just a bad game.

Anyway, go back to 2D for one more go. Fusion and Zero Mission were fun, and I'd like a follow-up on that.

[Sorel]

I only like the 2D Metroid games. Super Metroid is one of my favourite games of all time.

[ano0maly]

Do fangames count?

There's a Metroid 2 remake being developed, and it's slowly nearing completion over 8 years. Gameplay seems to be mainly based on Zero Mission.

[BeatBoxingBoo]

First, remove Other M from continuity

While I will say that Other M was a horrible game and should never have been created, or at least not by the developers of fucking xtreme beach volleyball, I still think the game is an important entry in the series' storyline.

Also, Nintendo recently renewed the license for Metroid Prime, so that could mean something or nothing.

[Frozelar]

I only like the 2D Metroid games. Super Metroid is one of my favourite games of all time.

I also quite loved Super Metroid and think that it would be awesome if they made something along the lines of that except with modernized features and more new stuff to find, like upgrades and whatnot. Or something.

I've never actually played Metroid Prime because... well, I don't know. I have a Wii, I just don't have the games. And I haven't touched any sort of gaming system (except for my PC) in at least a couple of years, and I don't plan on doing so anytime soon. Prime does look neat from the little I've seen of it, though.

But anyways, I'd love to see any sort of new installment that doesn't suck in the Metroid series.

I'd love even more if they brought Metroid games to Steam. If that ever happens I'd totally buy 'em on Steam.

[Saturn Moriya]

I think we can all agree that Super Metroid is the strongest game in the franchise. I don't care if the next game is 2D or 3D, but it NEEDS Super Metroid's format of exploration. While Fusion and Zero Mission were pretty neat, they were way too much "Go from here to here to over there now and do the next thing at this location", with just a couple of side paths/circles that didn't go very far. And the Prime Trilogy is also fantastic, so I'd totally love another game like that too, but it'd be even better if they pulled off Super Metroid's methods of routing in a 3D game (Prime 1 came close, 2 and 3 not as much).

I never played Other M, I merely watched a playthrough and I think I know enough. I personally think Metroid shouldn't be plot heavy at all. Fusion did a good job but it'd be better if it was just "this is your mission" at the start of the game, just a couple cutscene developments without text, and an obligatory escape sequence at the end.

[Ozzy Ment]

Fusion was my first Metroid game, so that's kind of what I want from the series. That being said, I can see why someone would want something more open-ended like Super Metroid. One thing I did like from Fusion and Echos was how you'd get most of your abilities from a boss that used that ability. As for a control scheme, maybe something like the 3D Zelda games. Basically, kind of like Other M, but incorporating the nunchuck. Because firing missiles was just awkward. Also, a retcon of Other M's plot would be kind of nice, if unlikely. Fusion gave us such high expectations for Adam.
And what's this about Samus' suit malfunctioning at the end of Fusion? Have I somehow just missed that?

[Bwarch]

I think we can all agree that Super Metroid is the strongest game in the franchise.

Prime or go home yo.

Also, Nintendo recently renewed the license for Metroid Prime, so that could mean something or nothing.

And Retro Studios say they want to make a new game, they're the guys behind Prime.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/donkey ... 0-6418032/

Lots of different IPs mentioned, but the only one that makes sense is Prime. They just released Tropical Freeze so immediately going to another Donkey Kong might not be a thing, Mario Kart is mentioned (?), and Miyamoto saying they could even work on Zelda. But with the Wii U Zelda already announced that seems unlikely. I really think that if they're hinting at a new game it's gonna be Prime.

Can't wait for that, personally. I've avoided Other M so I have no real lines of thought on "where the franchise should go from that point" Although with the Wii U pad being a thing I feel like Prime would have some really really cool functionality set up with that. Hopefully not aiming but there's a lot of fun stuff they could do with menus. (Off topic but Star Fox coming out also poses some neat stuff for the pad)

First, remove Other M from continuity and bring back the Prime games in the timeline because Other M doesn't deserve to be considered a Metroid game and it would make Fusion less pointless and Adam still be a cool character. Also Samus would seem a lot less stupid.

From what people say I do hope they get the writing on her right next time, a silent protag is neat and all but having some actually neat character development and quirks would be good. I almost fear that whoever works with her next is just going to go back to silent protag just because of how much Other M apparently screwed up.

I've gotta sit down and watch an LP of that sometime.

[Saturn Moriya]

a silent protag is neat and all but having some actually neat character development and quirks would be good. I almost fear that whoever works with her next is just going to go back to silent protag just because of how much Other M apparently screwed up.

I've gotta sit down and watch an LP of that sometime.

Best way to go with that kind of interest is Retsupurae doing theatre mode. You get to see everything they messed up on regarding the writing, you don't have to sit through the somewhat uninteresting gameplay and you get some funnies from the betus and beef as well.

In my opinion, for a game like Metroid the silent protagonist works better than anything. Especially if it's a new Prime (first person view), there's so much more room for atmosphere. E.g. Ripley going "shit!!" in Alien Isolation does work, but it creates a disconnect that wouldn't be there if it was just you and the xenomorph. Story cutscenes create an even bigger gap between the player and the atmosphere, as you have to sit there and watch people react to things. Going back to Alien Isolation again, when you get to wait and watch Ripley discuss the nonsense of the isolation with another person you're just kinda like "alright I get it, get the thing and go back and he'll probably die at some point" and it takes a bit each time to get back into it (the xenomorph encounters losing their originality of course plays a big part in it too). Super vs Fusion (although 2D games) also really shows why minimal gameplay downtime is very important. Of course it's necessary to do some camera panning to show exactly which door just unlocked to avoid silly frustration, and introducing a boss is always fine, but you really don't need anything beyond that.

In short, I don't like story driven game I want video game pew pew ohmigosh big scary monster and wow look at those glowy mushrooms. The original Prime did alot of great things (2 and 3 are cool too, but everything they added just takes away from the pure experience) and it's most definitely the second best in the series. Super is just so brilliant with its progression, platforming, navigation, direction and...open-ness.

[Bwarch]

I'm not feeling silent protags anymore honestly, I wanna see some neat characters and interactions. And I'm really digging everything that I've seen Isolation do, so I mostly just gotta disagree with you there. But... if they do another Prime it's probably back to silent protag, because Other M failed and Prime was always silent. I believe? Did they change that in the last two?

[ano0maly]

And what's this about Samus' suit malfunctioning at the end of Fusion? Have I somehow just missed that?

It didn't malfunction at the end but rather it changed at the plot in the beginning.