cldc 2018 - layers
Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
Hi, I judged this contest! Looks like idol is posting my comments along with the other judges so I won't have to do it myself.
I just didn't care much for this level. I don't usually care much about graphical clash, but this one is just really pushing it. Blind Devil put it best in saying it has no cohesion and I'd totally agree with that. It just never really figures out what it wants to be or do, with each section feeling wildly different from one another. The time apples only really apply to the Metroid section, but even then they're barely used there. And that awkward camera placement in the second half is just an amateurish mistake that should've been caught in testing.
Like, I don't hate the level or anything, but it's really bizarre. That said, there were some levels I disliked immensely in here that I still gave higher scores to because even if I didn't have fun, there are a few cases where I still gave high points for presentation and creativity. But we'll get to those eventually.
I just didn't care much for this level. I don't usually care much about graphical clash, but this one is just really pushing it. Blind Devil put it best in saying it has no cohesion and I'd totally agree with that. It just never really figures out what it wants to be or do, with each section feeling wildly different from one another. The time apples only really apply to the Metroid section, but even then they're barely used there. And that awkward camera placement in the second half is just an amateurish mistake that should've been caught in testing.
Like, I don't hate the level or anything, but it's really bizarre. That said, there were some levels I disliked immensely in here that I still gave higher scores to because even if I didn't have fun, there are a few cases where I still gave high points for presentation and creativity. But we'll get to those eventually.
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
the reason I'm not jumping into doing vldcx is I heard there are long streches of levels that are just not interesting? if there is enough actual interest I could make room for it in *the list*
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Wow I can't believe the big mystery secret LP was the exact next one on the list that tells us what LPs are coming next! Thanks for keeping us in suspense idol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the level, It's a lespna level. That's all there really is to say honestly. I don't remember what the first one raocow played was but we've seen a few of them now
on the level, It's a lespna level. That's all there really is to say honestly. I don't remember what the first one raocow played was but we've seen a few of them now
Well it is a decent hack but sometime its just too repetitif there no level that actually pop in your face and your like oh yeah that level they all ressemble themselves and just monster along the way.
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
There were something like 180 entries, so yes, there's a huge swath of mediocrity in the middle. That's kind of why I'm hoping that "top 60" collab gets completed - it's not as technically challenging to put together in a single ROM as 180 levels (~250-300 exits) would be, and you'd get the best of the best as a result.
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leet more like feet am i right haha
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I don't know what you're talking about; I'm sure spamming tile 1F0 like it's 1990 and the future still means flying cars is all you need for a fun and interesting level filled with Big LarfsTM and I don't reflexively vomit at the sight of Captain Falcon now or anything, honest.
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Well it is a decent hack but sometime its just too repetitif there no level that actually pop in your face and your like oh yeah that level they all ressemble themselves and just monster along the way.
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
"Revolution Adventure"
This level sure had things. Shame that the second half is so punitive, especially when the autoscroller doesn't really do much for the level :c
Level probably would have been more enjoyable if the sledding section was shortly after the midpoint, and then the level ended?
Aside from that, it sure was a level P:
This level sure had things. Shame that the second half is so punitive, especially when the autoscroller doesn't really do much for the level :c
Level probably would have been more enjoyable if the sledding section was shortly after the midpoint, and then the level ended?
Aside from that, it sure was a level P:
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
Guess we found the one person who actually enjoys the jump jump slide slide segments...
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A reminder that this is in fact second last place. The quality of submitted levels is like very high.
Yes, I rechecked to make sure. I couldn't believe it either.
Yes, I rechecked to make sure. I couldn't believe it either.
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
What was the song that used the KDL3 sound font? It wasn't any KDL3 song that I remember.
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It’s actually a KDL3 remix of a RtDL track.Kilgamayan wrote: ↑5 years ago What was the song that used the KDL3 sound font? It wasn't any KDL3 song that I remember.
Really strange and disjointed level today, but other than being all over the place, it wasn’t nearly as offensive as other 2nd last place entries I’ve seen in previous contests. Certainly gives me high hopes for the rest.
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
honestly for second last place this was really really good. Like lower mid-tier EASILY in other contests.
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Re: Chocolate Level Design Contest 2018 - apples
I guess the "higher bar" of the contest requiring customisation in the SMW engine, as well as the diversity of custom Mario game engines, has led to fewer entrants who are inexperienced or willing to submit very basic work.
Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
Revolution Adventures
Placement: 34th
Codename: Empathy
Author: YuzuMSX (previously JonKaruzu)
yuzu is kind of a weird guy. i think he's weird only in his context though. he has been pretty active in the smwcentral discord for a while, and can speak english about as well as mariobros980. this level really fits him.
Placement: 34th
Codename: Empathy
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Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
tfw idol is doing the same thread title gimmick that I did for VLDC9
yeah these bottom two places aren't THAT terrible but the judges really did not like levels that have no cohesion
yeah these bottom two places aren't THAT terrible but the judges really did not like levels that have no cohesion
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as usual the judge comments kind of make me roll my eyes with how ... i don't have a word for it but they're almost thorough and literal to the point of missing the point. grading is not so bad
Well it is a decent hack but sometime its just too repetitif there no level that actually pop in your face and your like oh yeah that level they all ressemble themselves and just monster along the way.
Blood Ghoul wrote:Sometimes it seems my blood spurts out in gobs, as if it were a fountain's pulsing sobs. I clearly hear it mutter as it goes yet cannot find the wound from which it flows. Before I met you, baby, I didn't know what I was missing.
Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
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Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
I'm curious what you mean by this (if you're referring to my comments here). I generally felt like the level was a jumble of a bunch of concepts, none of which were really interesting or explored well. It's not terrible, which is why I went for a slightly below average score, but it's not really good either. It felt a little like a "my first chocolate level" considering the odd variety of graphics and custom resources.
That said, Blind Devil was much harsher on this level than I'd have expected. Something about it really just didn't sit well with him.
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Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
If I'd hazard a guess, it's the fact that the end of the level suddenly drops the player into a completely new control scheme with no warning, build-up, or even a charity midpoint beforehand. When failing a single part of the section is instant death.
Heck, it wasn't even like the level went from precision platforming to precision jump timing. Everything before that section was really rompy and pretty relaxed.
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Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
If I had to hazard a guess; probably the auto-scroller that took 3 to 4 minutes of just sitting around and mind-numbingly waiting after everytime he would mess up on that unforgiving and somewhat janky sledding section.
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Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
if i had to hazard a guess, its because the levels bad as hell. there is no focus, the elements have no cohesion or introduction (randomly jumping up super high? turn blocks that disappear below your feet? a random on/off section with no impact? a sudden elevator? random shells just getting tossed at you with no tossee?), and the entire experience is bookended by an arduous autoscroller thats mindnumbingly boring and a out-of-nowhere skiing section with instant death and a wonky premise.
it's a bad level, definitely. not as bad as lespna's, but it deserves its place pretty wholeheartedly.
it's a bad level, definitely. not as bad as lespna's, but it deserves its place pretty wholeheartedly.
Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
Yeah I missed the part where he said he was playing it for 2 hours and declared it unbeatable. Knowing that there was another level that left me similarly drained later on, I totally get the low Fun score from him.
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Re: Celiacs Love Dark Chocolate 2018 - ghost sled
Should've figured that raocow would have gotten through this particular entry will very little issue P: I didn't even get through the first part and I know that a lot of people had tons and tons of trouble on that first part.
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