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Credits List inclusions?

Postby ProfessorDemetri » 7 years ago

Hello everyone. Long time no talk. Hope everything is well. Yadda yadda.
Let's get down to business.
I'm making the credits level for the game, and as such I need a list of everyone that should be included. I can get the members for all the levels that were made, that's no problem, but me and lime were talking and we agreed there should be other things that were included also. Here's what he thought should be included.
Spoiler'd for room.
raocow - For inspiring this whole game

limepie20 - A2MT Manager

SyStemkraSh5642 - baserom guy

Chdata - former ASM Coordinator guy, Story editor

Tails_155 - former A2MT Manager

flameofdoubt - former A2MT Manager and rom compiler

DaxterSpeed - Helped make this site!

VIdeoGuy - Made this site!

Terry von Feleday - GFX Coordinator guy

keckcellent - IPS Dredge

Diortem - Treasure chest/half ASM coordinator

Chibikko - old ASM Coordinator

Wyatt - Music and general help

Paralars - Overworld
What do you guys think? Is this good? Should we add more people? I'd like to know sooner then later, as I'm going through making this as we speak right now, and I'm trying to alot room for everything. Right now I'm just going ahead and doing the level designers by alphabetical order. I guess these things will be added to the end of it. Yeah, I'm thinkin' so.
Also, as the level will still be a level, Rao suggested that there should still be parrot coins and a chest in it. I agree with that, but I'm open to ideas? I've already picked the tile set I'm using, and the general layout for it, but ideas are awesome~
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Postby Septentrion Pleiades » 7 years ago

Also, level makers with multiple levels should have something different, like a bigger font, cooler look or different position.

I don't know if there were any helpful testers that were not level makers. Also, bosses creators should be acknowledged.
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Postby Camoslash » 7 years ago

Also people who created the level, GFX, FG's and BG's, Music, all that good stuff.

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Postby Wyatt » 7 years ago

Right, here's the music people:
Chrom1um
SNN
moose
rockdet

And a couple people who made music for just their own level:
Paralars
Spitznagl

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Postby ProfessorDemetri » 7 years ago

I like those ideas. Maybe I can add a star to the level designers that made more then one? FIFTEEN STARS?? Amazing lol
Also...
I was planning on giving a seperate sublevel for each section of the project.
Like level designers
Music peeps.
Mods
yadda
blah
yar
You know what I mean.
Because honestly I have no other way of doing the text... hmm...
Trust me, it'll be cool.~ lol
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Postby limepie20 » 7 years ago

I'm not sure how I feel about making a distinction between single- and multiple-level designers. My instinct is no because I don't want to make single-level designers seem less important.

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Postby TomPhanto » 7 years ago

Yeah, even if they did a lot of levels for the project, it would be better to give the level designers the same amount of respect in the credits. Plus it would be less work.
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Postby ProfessorDemetri » 7 years ago

Yah. Upon further thought on it, you guys are right. I do like the idea of having some distinction, but I don't want anyone to feel less important or anything like that.
Also, I'm looking at the map16, and as it is, I'm going to be pushing it... lol
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Postby Pheonix » 7 years ago

Maybe add dots or stars to each name, indicating how many levels they did?
Although that leaves the question of how the multiple author level would be handled (if that is indeed still a thing)...
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Postby AUS » 7 years ago

I'm not sure you were paying too much attention to the thread.. :| That exact suggestion was made and dismissed already.
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Postby alex2 » 7 years ago

I wonder if you could consider me to be one of the ASM dudes? I've worked out and made the ASM gimmicks for quite a few levels, but I don't know if that's on the same scale as, say, Chibikko.
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Postby Servant » 7 years ago

You probably already saw some of this in the plot area, but here's a contribution to the credits:
Writers (these are the people who had their text quoted in the write-ups):
-MoneyMan
-chdata
-Servant
-Moniker
-Joelcll

Editors (these are the people who reviewed the plot and provided meaningful advice; you may excluded them however as they are all covered already in your credits, but I think that their role in the plot is just as meaningful as the writers, or even more so, as they provided structure):
-Diortem
-Paralars
-flameofdoubt

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Postby Tails_155 » 7 years ago

Do we have space/time/energy/physics? (Last one not so relevant.)

If so, and possible, I kinda feel like it would be fun to have a Banjo-Kazooie style fake credits. I thought it was hilarious, and if we could do it in some way, it might be a bit of fun.

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Postby TheGuyWhoIsSitting » 6 years ago

Alright, I'm bumping this since I feel like this is the best place to ask this question.

Should I have everything separated? Start with the general list in the first post, Writers, have a thing for level makers, a thing for graphics makers, and a thing for music makers/music sources.

I'm asking this, because besides the initial ideas I have, I'm not sure where to start for the actual credits portion.

I was going to type up a text version and then go from there into the game, I have the bare bones version of the font I had made done. I might just use the default original Mario World font if mine isn't liked. I say bare-boned because I plan to anti-alias the font I've made so it looks better.

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I also wasn't sure if I was going to do a lower case or not, since we're kind of squeezed on space due to much of the available tiles for foreground being claimed.

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Postby alex2 » 6 years ago

The font looks good, but I'd rather see it in-game before a final call is made.

I would start with the title, first off:

A Second Mario Thing
Presented by Talkhaus


//followed by the project coordinators:

Project Coordinators //or managers
limepie20
Alex //or alex2, I really don't care
flameofdoubt
ProfessorDemetri
Tails_155


//maybe have the people who coordinated the base ROM separate? The names kind of overlap:

Base ROM Coordinators
limepie20
flameofdoubt
SyStemkraSh5642


//now..everything else:

ASM Coordinators //we can have a separate section for local ASM people too, as opposed to the global ASM guys, which I've listed here
Diortem
Alex/alex2
Chibikko
chdata


Local ASM Helpers //or some other name, I don't know
Alex/alex2
Kil/kil3 //probably
Chibikko //probably
<other people whose names I forgot>


Story
chdata
Servant
<other people whose names I forgot>


Overworld
Paralars
raocow //I swear, if his name is capitalized I will personally kill all of your pets


Graphics //I don't know if we should just have the people who did the global graphics here or what--obviously this list would be a lot bigger if we mentioned everyone who made their own graphics for their levels
Terry von Feleday
<others>

Music
Wyatt
S.N.N.
Kil/kil3 (?)
<others maybe>


Bosses
Alex/alex2 //assuming I finish the final boss..include it anyway for now
Terry von Feleday
chdata //maybe
<other boss creators>


Sibling Halls //keeping this separate from bosses because they are pretty different
raocow
Cup
Franky
spitznagl
Lv27MarkerMMan //assuming he finishes
Schnurmanator //assuming he finishes
Jesuiscontent //assuming he finishes
Kerkec //assuming he finishes


Levels
<giant list of people>


Then there's the misc stuff:

CMS Creators //maybe include the managers too?
VideoGuy
DaxterSpeed
limepie20 //if including managers
SyStemkraSh5642 //if including managers
Alex/alex2 //if including managers
<others I may have forgotten>


Special Thanks
<even bigger list of people>


//some kind of congratulations or something
THANKS FOR PLAY! //don't do this--ASMBXT already did it


//now for the password thing..something like:
IF YOU'RE UP FOR A CHALLENGE, HOLD SELECT ON THE OVERWORLD AND TYPE IN THIS PASSWORD:
<password goes here> //it's randomly generated, so you needn't worry about this bit--I'll take care of it. I could possibly throw the password into the hub, so we could say something like:
THIS PASSWORD MAY BE VIEWED AT ANY TIME IN THE MAIN HUB LEVEL //or whatever it's called


//then maybe an automatic fade to Demetri's credits screen, if we're using it.

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I'm probably missing a few things, but I think you get the gist of everything.

To everyone else: feel free to add anything you deem necessary, and strike whatever you feel is unnecessary. We don't want to leave anyone out!
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Postby S.N.N. » 6 years ago

If you can fit Demetri's screen, it should 100% be used at the credits scene. I know it was actually considered as the title screen at one point (don't know if it is still), but it really doesn't fit there at all.

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alex2 wrote:The font looks good, but I'd rather see it in-game before a final call is made.

Overworld
Paralars
raocow //I swear, if his name is capitalized I will personally kill all of your pets
I can claim more Map 16 space, I just found a nice chunk that says it's unused on the site.

Do either of you have a link to Demetri's Pic? If it can be shoehorned in by making it a level background, I think that's the most space we have available in Map 16.

My plans for the credits level were
Have Demo stumble upon the back stage of A2MT and have it like a Theatre/movie production, probably theatre, and then at the end use "fancy" Layer 2 stuff to make the curtain come down with Demo at center stage to end the level.

The credits themselves would just be backstage stuff, I was going to make set pieces and have coins floating by string and other stuff. The credits themselves would probably just be floating around.
Though I haven't done anything in game just yet.

I'll get to work on this and try to post something in the near future now that my finals are over.

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S.N.N. wrote:If you can fit Demetri's screen, it should 100% be used at the credits scene. I know it was actually considered as the title screen at one point (don't know if it is still), but it really doesn't fit there at all.
I actually meant this one.
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Postby Paralars » 6 years ago

whoa, I didn't know about this screen, it looks amazing!

TGWIS:
I like the theater idea, right now I'm imagining cardboard cutouts of different object, buildings, enemies and stuff like that. You could also have requisites hanging from the ceiling on obvious ropes or stick puppets. You'll know what to do...
As for the credits list.
Music should contain Chromium.
Graphics should be expanded to at least some general graphics helpers, there's a huge backlog in the graphics thread. Right now I remember Machoman, Moneyman, Isocitration, Demetri and myself doing some stuff.
Then I think you could kinda mention Septentrion for Testing and Keckcellent for Dredging and hey, what about kaizoman anyway?
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Postby alex2 » 6 years ago

Kaizoman has done a bunch with individual levels' ASM like I have, as well as the parrot coin thing.

I guess you could just group him into local ASM guys, since he's done more with peoples' levels than global ASM (also he's not a coordinator).
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Postby Paralars » 6 years ago

There's also some people not particularly active in the forums, like MooseSMW
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Postby alex2 » 6 years ago

I was either not around or didn't pay attention to much of the first half of this project, so I'm rather useless as far as crediting everyone involved is concerned.
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Postby Money » 6 years ago

alex2 wrote:
S.N.N. wrote:If you can fit Demetri's screen, it should 100% be used at the credits scene. I know it was actually considered as the title screen at one point (don't know if it is still), but it really doesn't fit there at all.
I actually meant this one.
Wait... that won't work.

They don't have arms.

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Postby Paralars » 6 years ago

Who? The characters in the picture that don't exactly resemble any of the established ones?
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That, to me, makes it work even better, as a sort of terrible 16-bit era shovelware parody.
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