MoneyMan wrote:The idea of an application period also isn't very good, I dont think, because it discriminates against people who just werent aware of the contest before it started for one reason or another. The ONLY way im at all supportive of any idea like this is if it's not a hard "you cant participate if you dont sign up beforehand" but a "you get a small scoring penalty for not doing so/you get a small bonus for doing so", but even that leads to the drift away from levels being scored and ranked on their own merit, so.
Lunatic Quark wrote:To be perfectly honest I'd rather have another contest the size of MaGL X2 than have to deal with any participation limiting rules. I guess if I had to say which one I dislike the least it would be the separate deadline for signups, but I still don't really like that for the cases that someone might not know about the contest beforehand or not have internet during the signup period (I know some people here have had problems with extended periods of no internet in the past).
Is it really that much to ask to be able to wrap up signups about a week before the submissions end so the host can finalize the list and respond to all of the entrants with enough time left for them? Setting aside for now ztarwuff's idea of separate time frames.
I just don't see that as discriminatory or whatever when the signup is an open process and made clearly known. It's a basic responsibility of someone that wants to enter a contest is to know
about it and keep track of when the event commences.
Besides, even if there wasn't a gap between end of signups and end of submissions, one can still claim that only allowing level submissions from February to early March (like two years ago) is "discriminatory" to people that are busy during late winter. It's unfortunately that some people are too busy to participate in this particular contest, but that's just how events are.
It seems that this reasoning of "people might not be aware" of the required participation period puts eschewing the minimum responsibility asked of contestants
over giving the organizers and the participants some breathing room
. I'm far more concerned with people panicking on the last day thinking, "Oh no, it's the last day and I have to sign up, wait for the host to give me the information, and
make something?" If you signed up you should be guaranteed some time to make your level. Just pick a reasonable deadline, and add a week to the submissions component. That's not too difficult, is it?
Also to clear up the misunderstanding about the other idea: I said before that the secondary cutoff isn't moving forward, the actual deadline all along is having a countdown after enough entries are in - this idea was only presented because instead of "150 levels, time's up" a better alternative is "150 levels, start the countdown".