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I think it's too late for me to join(though I don't think that I have a good boss idea to come up with).

Mabel wrote:You can upload using mediafire,mega,dropbox,puush, or shareX

www.sendspace.com/file/r3tt7j

Okay, did a quick test (on god mode to rush through everything, mainly because the last few midpoints haven't been implemented yet.) It didn't really affect Mechdragon's section because getting hit knocked me into a wall I couldn't get out of anyways.

Personally I feel the section's a bit long for what it is, that may just be me though.

There were also a couple of minor issues; the custom song had been turned off in Section 1, and the lava tile Mechdragon replaced was used elsewhere. (In Section 10, specifically.) Fortunately, with Wohl's editor I was able to change all the tiles at once, so I've made a quick fix to those two issues.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/736 ... BRelay.zip

Oh, and speaking of graphic replacements affecting other sections, I didn't mention this when I tried the last version but I probably should have just to be sure.

RenaTurnip wrote:This is a ping.

It turns out that SMB1 Bowser and SMB3 Bowser share fireballs. Someone after you changed the fireball graphics and now your battle uses different ones. Do you mind the new ones? I think they look good in your battle, but it's your boss.

Okay, I tested Mechdragon's section by setting a start point there to simulate the midpoint. It took me only about five or so attempts to get through, so as long as there's a midpoint for that section it'll be fine. I still feel it could be a bit shorter but I don't think it's excessive.

Also, whoops, I messed up the ping in my last message, don't know if it still works after editing so I'll do it again.

RenaTurnip wrote:See above message.

So, we're just about done.

GalaxyOfJ wrote:Pinging you!

Horikawa's not getting to it until the weekend, so it shouldn't hold things up if we wait until Thursday for you. If you want to drop out for other reasons, of course, that's still okay. Just don't feel like you have to for the sake of time.

Minnakht wrote:Pinging you too.

Do you still want to go after GalaxyOfJ if he's still in, or would you rather take a turn now?

Dragon Fogel wrote:

RenaTurnip wrote:This is a ping.

It turns out that SMB1 Bowser and SMB3 Bowser share fireballs. Someone after you changed the fireball graphics and now your battle uses different ones. Do you mind the new ones? I think they look good in your battle, but it's your boss.

I haven't looked, but I don't mind in the slightest :P Fireballs are fireballs and as long as anyone thinks it looks okay, then it's okay.

Dragon Fogel wrote:Okay, I tested Mechdragon's section by setting a start point there to simulate the midpoint. It took me only about five or so attempts to get through, so as long as there's a midpoint for that section it'll be fine. I still feel it could be a bit shorter but I don't think it's excessive.

Also, whoops, I messed up the ping in my last message, don't know if it still works after editing so I'll do it again.

RenaTurnip wrote:See above message.

So, we're just about done.

GalaxyOfJ wrote:Pinging you!

Horikawa's not getting to it until the weekend, so it shouldn't hold things up if we wait until Thursday for you. If you want to drop out for other reasons, of course, that's still okay. Just don't feel like you have to for the sake of time.

Minnakht wrote:Pinging you too.

Do you still want to go after GalaxyOfJ if he's still in, or would you rather take a turn now?

That is good to know, I only died when smbx froze for five seconds! When it lagged, excetera... I think I am in the clear!

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:

Mabel wrote:You can upload using mediafire,mega,dropbox,puush, or shareX

www.sendspace.com/file/r3tt7j

kinda funny how, of all the sites listed, you picked a different one lmao

Ivy wrote:

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:

Mabel wrote:You can upload using mediafire,mega,dropbox,puush, or shareX

www.sendspace.com/file/r3tt7j

kinda funny how, of all the sites listed, you picked a different one lmao

It is the only one that would load! That is why...

Horikawa Otane wrote:

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:

Ivy wrote: kinda funny how, of all the sites listed, you picked a different one lmao

It is the only one that would load! That is why...

Mechdragon has like zillions of viruses on his PC that force him to use a proxy that only loads certain web pages some of the time or something from my understanding.

No, I just have so many browser issues, I can not get on many sites... I normally ask bossedit8 or someone else to upload...

I'll try to set aside some time today to get set up for making my boss. Assuming all goes well today I should be able to work on it tomorrow as predicted??

Aaaand done!

I am not luna enough to now how to use the extra midpoints, so I must leave that to more capable hands.

Also my arena uses axes to trigger, so in case it is ruled (or was ruled and I missed it) that they won't play nice with the midpoints then they can be changed to coins or something.

Other than that, everything is probably broken because I touched it, so let me know what all no longer works.
I guess that makes it...

Minnakht wrote:^ Your turn!

So I have basically been procrastinating as to whether or not I should enter this contest since it popped up, but then I looked at the sign-up list and realized that it's now or never.

So I choose NOW!

*Guitar riff plays*


Or you know. After the next guy goes and it's actually my turn.







...Must...resist...urge...to use only...default...Birdo!

GalaxyOfJ wrote:Also my arena uses axes to trigger, so in case it is ruled (or was ruled and I missed it) that they won't play nice with the midpoints then they can be changed to coins or something.

There are other bosses earlier where people used axes for non-midpoint-related triggers. It plays just fine with the midpoint trigger axes, no big deal.

Rednaxela wrote:

GalaxyOfJ wrote:Also my arena uses axes to trigger, so in case it is ruled (or was ruled and I missed it) that they won't play nice with the midpoints then they can be changed to coins or something.

There are other bosses earlier where people used axes for non-midpoint-related triggers. It plays just fine with the midpoint trigger axes, no big deal.

You may want to get rid of axe-based midpoints in favour of the new Lua-only ones. Not only will these be less awkward to implement, but don't require SMBX events or layers to function (or NPCs at all). I imagine saving on those would be useful for a collaborative level like this.

Hoeloe wrote:You may want to get rid of axe-based midpoints in favour of the new Lua-only ones. Not only will these be less awkward to implement, but don't require SMBX events or layers to function (or NPCs at all). I imagine saving on those would be useful for a collaborative level like this.

I've been thinking that would be good to do indeed yeah.

By the way, last I looked, it appeared that while the standard event-using API allowed the midpoint and associated respawn location to be different easily, whereas it looks like with the Luna-only one that can't be done without using the extraActions hook to teleport the player after respawn? Shouldn't matters in the MaFAB Relay (at least thus far), but it would make a difference for what I had in mind for a respawn room in the other relay level. (Though... teleporting the player in the extraActions hook is easier (imho) than adding events and such for each midpoint anyway, so the Luna-only way is still probably the way to go there)

Rednaxela wrote: By the way, last I looked, it appeared that while the standard event-using API allowed the midpoint and associated respawn location to be different easily, whereas it looks like with the Luna-only one that can't be done without using the extraActions hook to teleport the player after respawn?

Not at all. Lua checkpoints just have separate spawn coordinates as optional, by default using the same as the coordinates of the checkpoint. It's just an extra 2 arguments.

Hoeloe wrote:Not at all. Lua checkpoints just have separate spawn coordinates as optional, by default using the same as the coordinates of the checkpoint. It's just an extra 2 arguments.

Ahh, whoops. I was being blind to those arguments for some reason.

KingTwelveSixteen wrote:So I have basically been procrastinating as to whether or not I should enter this contest since it popped up, but then I looked at the sign-up list and realized that it's now or never.

So I choose NOW!

*Guitar riff plays*


Or you know. After the next guy goes and it's actually my turn.







...Must...resist...urge...to use only...default...Birdo!

If mina doesnt reply by tomorrow ill let you go ahead and do your part.

and whoever goes next, use this one instead:
http://puu.sh/hrd4D/e245418fd5.rar

Changed:
-Mechdragons part is no longer instakill because lol fuck that shit (youll still get rekt if you get crushed but still)
-added powerups and 1up
-added a midpoint room before mechdragons section

I cleared it blind but im not an average player but instakills are pretty bs 90% of the time sooooo yeah

I'm not particularly good and I still cleared that section in under five tries, though I certainly don't object to toning it down and the midpoint is definitely needed. (Admittedly, I took advantage of the safe spot for the final part of it.)

I also feel like it could use a better transition; at the least it could reuse the Go! graphic rather than having that sudden text box.

Minnakht hasn't been on in a week, but hey, maybe they'll turn up after all.

Something I noticed playing through the newest version, the checkpoints between the giant flaming cat and the zzazmabar fight don't work. I got dropped back at the cat when I died there.

KingTwelveSixteen wrote:Something I noticed playing through the newest version, the checkpoints between the giant flaming cat and the zzazmabar fight don't work. I got dropped back at the cat when I died there.

Not implemented yet. Imma wait til the last entries are done but for now they're placeholders really

In other news, I forgot to claim it but I totally added a section in.

Boop.

Horikawa Otane wrote:ping

It's...probably your turn???

Well, it's down to you and Minnakht, so I guess the question is if Mabel wants to give them one last chance to show up.

So the midpoint before Mechdragon's section isn't showing up and the door to the section afterwards is appearing at the very start.

Granted, this is useful for testing, but I'm just noting this here as something to be fixed up before the final version.