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the 22nd talkhaus vgm guessing game - week 3 begins now

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shamelessly copied from ameijinmayo's post

That's right, folks, it's time for another talkcordhaus Video Game music guessing contest, hosted by me this time around. This'll be my first time hosting one of these, so please take good care of me or whatever. All forum and related forum discord members are free to take part in this contest, both new and old. But anywho, without further delay, I'll sum up how this contest works:

The Gist
  • At the end of this post is a playlist of 60 video game song snippets! The goal of the game is to see how many of the snippets you can correctly guess.
  • You can send your guesses to me via PM (for the forums), or via Discord direct message (I'm on both patapon spotzone and in talkcordhaus).
  • You may also opt to put your guesses directly into the forum thread; just be aware that you risk other players stealing your answers if you choose to do so.
The Hints
  • Hints are divided into two types: Public and Private. Each track has one (1) Public Hint and one (1) Private Hint.
  • Public Hints generally have to do with what game the song is from. For example, the public hint for REVENGE OF SWITCHES PRESSED would be "hey there raocow, this is everyone".
  • Public hints are posted to the thread on the Monday following the first time they are requested, and are also edited into the post with all the songs. I will try to post public hints at the same time each week.
  • Public Hints may be requested either via forum post or through the same PM methods as guess submissions. To prevent Hint-bombing, no one player may request more than three (3) public hints per week.
  • Private Hints generally have to do with the context the song is heard in. For example, the private hint for REVENGE OF SWITCHES PRESSED would be "I made the level."
  • Private Hints are distributed via PM on request. There is no upper limit on how many private hints you may request at any given time.
The Scoring
  • Score is split into Game and Context.
  • Guessing the game before the Public Hint is given out grants two (2) points. Guessing the game after the Public Hint is given out grants one (1) point.
  • Guessing the context before receiving the Private Hint grants two (2) points. Guessing the context after receiving the Private Hint grants one (1) point.
  • Correctly identifying an IMPOSTOR track as an impostor is worth an additional two points. This is doubled if you include a credible link to the IMPOSTOR. A fully correct IMPOSTOR is worth a total of eight (8) points. (For the impostors: think remixes, like you would find at vgmusic.com)
  • Correctly identifying an INTRUDER track is worth four points. This is doubled if you include a credible link to the INTRUDER. A fully correct INTRUDER is worth a total of eight (8) points. (For the intruders: this was not originally in a video game. It may have been included in one after-the-fact, but it did not originate from one)
The Deadline
  • The deadline for the contest will be 2022-10-31 14:00 CDT (here's a link to a timezone-adjusted deadline). I am open to extending the deadline if it becomes necessary, but really six weeks might just be overkill.
  • You're free to swap out guesses for songs before the deadline. Do not worry about switching to a "wrong" guess - once you submit a correct guess, it's locked in (though if you post your guesses to the forum, please do not edit your post with the guesses - make a new one instead, so that I can honor this for "public" guesses).
Here's a zip file containing all of the snippets.
  1. Boobietrap Bath Tub
  2. Hold your hand up to the sky
  3. Hey there raocow, this is Everyone
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Just a quick clarification: there is more than one intruder - I had to convert one of the regular entries to an intruder entry at ten minutes before game start because whoops that's not actually a videogame, and I didn't have my backup selections on hand any more. It still has "game" and "context" so it can be scored as either an intruder or as an impostor; I will score correct guesses for the track in question as whatever is more favorable (so if you correctly guess it as game/context/impostor/source you'll be credited as though it's an impostor, while if you correctly guess it as intruder/source you'll be credited as though it's an intruder)
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oh hey maybe i can enter this one since you're in spotzone and i won't have to be middleman
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fun fact: my original gimmick idea for this was that it was a collaborative effort to score So Many Points and that the game would end once that many points were scored. I decided against that idea at one point, probably because I wanted more to include the impostors and needed some way to make them "fair"
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Are we allowed to say if we know some songs and how many we know? I think I know a few of them, but I am afraid if it might be a scam or something b/c I've never played the game so what if it was in more than one game or some of them sound like they might have been enhanced or something so if I think I know it, should I just guess? I still haven't listened to all of the tracks.
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all that, and you're even allowed to post your guesses directly into the forum thread if you want. just be aware that other people can use your guesses if you do that.
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wait so i'm confused, on top of guessing the game we also have to guess context? tbh the OP doesn't quite explain what "context" is in this case aaaa

not even halfway through and damn, fans of a certain series are eating good this contest
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"Context" is just when in-game the song is played. It can be the song title, a description of when the song is played, whatever. So long as you're more precise than just "A Super Mario Thing."

And you still get points for just guessing what game the song is from.
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wait, so is there no penalty for asking for hints of either variety? can i just ask you for every private hint immediately????
also no partial points for guessing series?
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2. No partial points for guessing series this time. Mostly because I have a bunch of songs from the same series in here so it's actually possible for someone to get a chunk of points by just saying "they're all from $series" if I were awarding that.

1. The "penalty" for hints, as it were, is baked into the scoring - it's two points if you guess unhinted, one point if you guess hinted. If you ask for all the private hints you'll basically lose a quarter of the potential maximum score.
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Three public hints were requested this week:
  • #10: Boobietrap Bath Tub
  • #14: Hold your hand up to the sky
  • #37: Hey there, raocow, this is Everyone
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thank you for making an easy one i got like 20 right this time
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I hope that the public hint system doesn't return because now i just get less points by default if i were to participate because i did not notice this was going on until now. But fortunately I won't participate because having the guess the context of a song adds a slight extra layer of annoyance to the whole thing that I don't think I'd have fun.

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oh yeah should i submit early because i have some discovered but if i sit on them i lose points bcuz of public hints? like for example i already got #37 when i took a look at this but bcuz i didn't submit i just lose points by default

i do agree it's a very bad system that sucks tho
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yeah I think if public hints do come back at all then the only "penalty" will be that everybody gets the hint. I'm seeing a lot of people getting discouraged because now that some public hints are up they're not able to get A Perfect Score.

(that people are opting not to play over knowing that they're short three points out of a total of 200+ is... interesting)

Which the points penalty being applied to everybody who submitted correct guesses after was why I had a cap of three public hints per player per week in the first place.

Also I found another ambiguous scoring situation - one of the regular tracks can also be scored as an impostor (and I've actually gotten more submissions that named the original piece rather than what I was scoring it under...) so that's also going to fall under Generous Scoring Rules.
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no public hints were requested during week 2 so there's that I guess.
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