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Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ztarwuff wrote:Well, that's odd, because I used that exact same installer to download what I thought was the latest version. I did that on the 6th March.

If I use it again, do I need to delete the old PGE or does the installer write over the old one?

Yes, you can use it again, Online installer will overwrite old files with new, but it now doesn't remembers installing components and you need to set up them again. (additional config packs for example, but they are updating too). Now I preparing to release Editor 0.3.0 Beta

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

This is a small test of PGE editor on the Android. It was build for this platform first time (before I had attemts to make it, but failed. But now I finally build it!).
Design is needed for improvment, but it works!

Small test on the Samsung Galaxy S III Smartphone:

My opinion: Works creepy and too bad GUI design: scrolling too hard (I should switch between hand drag and select modes to take ability use scrolling), I can't open context menu, because right mouse button is not available for finger touching. I also should use gyroscope to flip horizontal/vertical to take ability use some toolboxes. File open/save dialogs are hard to usage. Also audio playback doesn't work because I doesn't built SDL and SDL Mixer for android usage. But by anyway it works!
Android version is required for a much of works: need a better touch scrolling, need the implementation of the alternate context menu trigger to take ability to use more editing features.

Later I will add the Linux (Mint) and experimental Android builds into laboratory.

Post by **Hoeloe** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:This is a small test of PGE editor on the Android.

That's pretty cool, but I question the usefulness of such a feature at this stage. If you had the engine built-in, and you could play on a mobile platform too, then this would be a neat application, but as it currently stands, you can only play the levels on PC, so the ability to develop them on mobile seems a little pointless at this stage.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Hoeloe wrote:
Wohlstand wrote:This is a small test of PGE editor on the Android.
That's pretty cool, but I question the usefulness of such a feature at this stage. If you had the engine built-in, and you could play on a mobile platform too, then this would be a neat application, but as it currently stands, you can only play the levels on PC, so the ability to develop them on mobile seems a little pointless at this stage.

By anyway I plan firstly release engine part to play games on mobile devices. But because I wasn't built SDL library for Android, I wasn't built engine. But I was built the editor (I disabled linking to SDL Mixer because I wasn't built SDL - dependency of SDL Mixer) which can work even without SDL, but without audio (musics and sounds will be sielent)

I plan also implement the special archive-like format of games which will be contain inside:
-Used default musics
-Used default sounds
-Used default graphics
-One or multiple Episodes with all available contents.
-Settings of everything
-System and custom LUA-scripts
This main thing of this concept is: unlike classic SMBX episode structure, those archive-like games can be ran by engine WITHOUT installation of dependent config packs because everything already packed into them!

By anyway the implementation of engine gameplay for mobile device is easy: I need only to use touch screen buttons and add more usage of mouse in menus and message boxes. (by anyway some devices has ability to connect USB keyboard and mouse to take PC-like control!).
The design of mobile editor will has difference concept especially for usage on small touch screens. My current build is a true hardcore!

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Small news!

I just added Linux Mint x64 and Android builts of the editor into laboratory.

Also: Who uses Linux Mint or Ubuntu-like distros now please check is my deploy works for you or not?

You can try the hardcore on your tabled or with more hardcore - on smartphone now! :biggrin:

Rock with unstable Android built here:
http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_laboratory/

Note for Android: Unpack config packs into "/sdcard/PGE Project Data/configs" folder. It will be created automatically when you will run editor even with no config packs.

But by anyway,
Beta has been came now!

-> PGE Editor 0.3.0-Beta
-> Download Windows x86 binaries

-> Download Linux Mint x64 binaries

-> Download experimental Android built of the PGE Editor

Installers coming soon!

Changelog 0.3.0-beta

Ivy · Post by **Ivy** » 9 years ago

Yay, new update! On an unrelated note, nice new avatar!

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand, just thought I'd give you a head's up. Norton Security's flagging up your online downloader as a threat. It says it's infected with W32.Neshuta.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ztarwuff wrote:Wohlstand, just thought I'd give you a head's up. Norton Security's flagging up your online downloader as a threat. It says it's infected with W32.Neshuta.

Shit! (I had a huge fight with this stinky virus). I'l fix it now!

EDIT: Fixed, pleas check it again.
The Name of than virus - Neshta, virus from Belarus of 2005'th year. Old virus, but too much annoying, be careful!

Edit2: Who got virus infection, I have medicine for it: http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_laborato ... Neshta.zip
1) Run "AntiNeshta.bat" first! It's a looped batch script which will prevent virus activity and prevent new infection of files
2) Then run killneshta.exe to check out your PC and disinfect all infected files
3) when disinfection was completed, try it again just in case. When everything is clean, you can abort AntiNeshta.bat and continue your works

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:
ztarwuff wrote:Wohlstand, just thought I'd give you a head's up. Norton Security's flagging up your online downloader as a threat. It says it's infected with W32.Neshuta.
Shit! (I had a huge fight with this stinky virus). I'l fix it now!

EDIT: Fixed, pleas check it again.
The Name of than virus - Neshta, virus from Belarus of 2005'th year. Old virus, but too much annoying, be careful!

It's all fine now. Good thing I decided not to trust the first download. It's probably why so few people are using the A2XT Devkit for anything; after all, it keeps flagging up as a threat too.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Laboratory mirror was moved!

Hello!
I have a good news for people whom annoyed to download via slow-speed connection!
PGE Project now is registered on the Gna!,
and we are got ability to host PGE builts and config packs on the server with a better download speed!

Welcome to the new laboratory place!
http://home.gna.org/pgewohlstand/

P.S. Later I will re-program online installer to take it download from GNA instead of engine.wohlnet.ru, but not online installer will still download packages from slow connection with engine.wohlnet.ru server.

EDIT: Online Installer has been updated! http://download.gna.org/pgewohlstand/de ... loader.exe
(The download speed should be faster than was before)

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand, it's a minor issue, but I thought I'd just point it out... Background-24 is a foreground object. I'm using it as a blood stain, so I don't have to create multiple blood-stained versions of the same block. However, in the PGE, background-24 doesn't display over the block, it displays underneath it.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ztarwuff wrote:Wohlstand, it's a minor issue, but I thought I'd just point it out... Background-24 is a foreground object. I'm using it as a blood stain, so I don't have to create multiple blood-stained versions of the same block. However, in the PGE, background-24 doesn't display over the block, it displays underneath it.

Than issues like wrong BGO Z-indexes or grid sizes, etc. can be fixed by simple editing of INI file. Thanks for noticing about thins mistake, I will check out this thing in the SMBX and will apply fix into config packs (I will update them after fixing).
You also can fix it yourself (goto configs/<pack name>/lvl_bgo.ini). By anyway almost everything is documented.
Also you can save copy of your level into LVLX and you will have to use Z-Layer switch which will provide you ability to re-define default settings of BGO Z-Order. But when you will export level for SMBX, resave them into LVL back

EDIT: Eveything was fixed and config packs was updated, use online installer (download it again, I updated them too!) to get fixed config packs

Post by **Willhart** » 9 years ago

It's amazing how much time this editor has saved me while making levels. I really wish I had started using it sooner.

The lazy fix tool for masks can actually be used for speeding up the crearion of masks for sprites and tilesets. I can simply copy the ready sprites, change the background to white and then let the program do the rest.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Willhart wrote:It's amazing how much time this editor has saved me while making levels. I really wish I had started using it sooner.

The lazy fix tool for masks can actually be used for speeding up the crearion of masks for sprites and tilesets. I can simply copy the ready sprites, change the background to white and then let the program do the rest.

To speed up creation of new sprites from scratch I recommends you to use the PNG2GIFs tool instead [simply run it and drag&drop source PNG images (with real transparency) to get SMBX specific GIF+Mask format], but if you has not Paint.NET, GIMP or Photoshop to have able use Alpha-channel, usage the LazyFix tool is really a good strategy, good :)

Post by **Willhart** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:
Willhart wrote:It's amazing how much time this editor has saved me while making levels. I really wish I had started using it sooner.

The lazy fix tool for masks can actually be used for speeding up the crearion of masks for sprites and tilesets. I can simply copy the ready sprites, change the background to white and then let the program do the rest.
To speed up creation of new sprites from scratch I recommends you to use the PNG2GIFs tool instead [simply run it and drag&drop source PNG images (with real transparency) to get SMBX specific GIF+Mask format], but if you has not Paint.NET, GIMP or Photoshop to have able use Alpha-channel, usage the LazyFix tool is really a good strategy, good :)

I'll have to try that too. Thanks for the tip.

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:
ztarwuff wrote:Wohlstand, it's a minor issue, but I thought I'd just point it out... Background-24 is a foreground object. I'm using it as a blood stain, so I don't have to create multiple blood-stained versions of the same block. However, in the PGE, background-24 doesn't display over the block, it displays underneath it.
Than issues like wrong BGO Z-indexes or grid sizes, etc. can be fixed by simple editing of INI file. Thanks for noticing about thins mistake, I will check out this thing in the SMBX and will apply fix into config packs (I will update them after fixing).
You also can fix it yourself (goto configs/<pack name>/lvl_bgo.ini). By anyway almost everything is documented.
Also you can save copy of your level into LVLX and you will have to use Z-Layer switch which will provide you ability to re-define default settings of BGO Z-Order. But when you will export level for SMBX, resave them into LVL back

EDIT: Eveything was fixed and config packs was updated, use online installer (download it again, I updated them too!) to get fixed config packs

I've tried doing both, but it doesn't seem to work. Do I have to delete the level and start again from scratch?

(When editing the lvl_bgo.ini, I gave the backgorunds the exact same priority levels as foreground objects that I know show over the blocks).

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ztarwuff wrote:
Wohlstand wrote:
ztarwuff wrote:Wohlstand, it's a minor issue, but I thought I'd just point it out... Background-24 is a foreground object. I'm using it as a blood stain, so I don't have to create multiple blood-stained versions of the same block. However, in the PGE, background-24 doesn't display over the block, it displays underneath it.
Than issues like wrong BGO Z-indexes or grid sizes, etc. can be fixed by simple editing of INI file. Thanks for noticing about thins mistake, I will check out this thing in the SMBX and will apply fix into config packs (I will update them after fixing).
You also can fix it yourself (goto configs/<pack name>/lvl_bgo.ini). By anyway almost everything is documented.
Also you can save copy of your level into LVLX and you will have to use Z-Layer switch which will provide you ability to re-define default settings of BGO Z-Order. But when you will export level for SMBX, resave them into LVL back

EDIT: Eveything was fixed and config packs was updated, use online installer (download it again, I updated them too!) to get fixed config packs
I've tried doing both, but it doesn't seem to work. Do I have to delete the level and start again from scratch?

(When editing the lvl_bgo.ini, I gave the backgorunds the exact same priority levels as foreground objects that I know show over the blocks).

Look:
This is the standard Z-layers
(in the lvl_bgo.ini it's the view= field, z-offset is a relative offset to default z-layer)

I think, you got before installed from standalone installer but online installer usually installs into another folder, therefore fixed config packs would be in than directory [you also SHOULD select them to install to get them updating, online isntaller currently doesn't remember installed compnents and to update them you need check them to install again]

SMBX64 Sorting priority is not giving effects in the PGE, it's a hack especially for SMBX. to get force foreground of background BGO's. If you was saved file into LVL (or if into LVLX but you doesn't changed "z-Layer" and Z-Offset fields), the effects should appear after config pack reload and after file reload or on restart application with reopening.

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:*snip*

Oh, I see what I did wrong. I edited the wrong field.

Thanks for the help, Wohlstand. It's greatly appreciated!

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

PGE Engine 0.0.7-pre-alpha long test
Here is a test of PGE Engine version 0.0.7-pre-alpha which took the ability to play world maps and episodes. Currently world maps renders without textures, but basic episode system is works.

Here was tested episodes:
The Invasion 2
Sarasaland Adventure by Otabo
Super Mario Magical Paintings (old DEMO 1.0) by Airship

About Box2D physics:
Here the character (blue rectangle) can float like Peach, can in some cases climb on the walls, and slides while stay on slopes, but when it jumps and hits diagonal celling, it would get speed-up of movement. Character can't staticalyl stay on slopes and will slite down. Box2D implements physics of real world and would be used to create games with progressive physics, etc. By anyway will be constructed new physical engine which will more similar to SMBX and will provide same physics which in the SMBX and also we can take full control with physics and will be possible to add any other physical things which impossible or too hard to do with Box2D case.

How to put episodes into PGE to get able play them?
It's simple and easy:
- If you downloaded PGE package as ZIP and unpacked into any folder, you can make "worlds" folder in the PGE folder like SMBX and you can put any levels into them should familiar to you if you has a skills with SMBX.
- If you installed PGE via installer, the "worlds" folder shoud be created in the "%UserProfile%\.PGE_Project" *.
* where %UserProfile% - is a system variable which contains path to your user profile folder which is writable without admin rights.

Note: If you have configured "SMBX Integration" config pack, PGE Engine will show all episodes from your SMBX!

Which controls?
Controls are like standard SMBX:
Arrow keys to walk and enter into warps
Z - jump
X - run faster
PGE specific keys:
T - toggle full screen mode
F3 - enable/disable debug information
i - disable/enable walkable zone limit on the world map (you will have able to walk anywhere)
F12 - take screenshot (will be saved in the screenshots folder which will be in PGE folder or in the %UserProfile%\.PGE_Project). Screenshots will be written into PNG format and will have timedate based filename.
More information in the Readme.txt of engine application.
Esc - Exit from level [you will return to world map], or exit from episode [if you on the world map or in the main hub level]
Enter - show dummy message box

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Hello! Today I have a good news for owners of Mac computers!
After some works and with help of my friend I finally got working Mac OS X built!

Get Editor 0.3.0-beta, Engine and Tools [Mac OS X, Intel x64] (dmg)
I think, it should work now, if it is NOT work, please report me!

Screenshots:

How to start usage:
1) Plug in dmg image
2) drag&drop folder "PGE Project" into "Applications" shortcut
3) Go to config packs page and get any config pack except "SMBX Integration" which for Windows builts to integrate with SMBX.
4) Find in the copied PGE Project folder the "configs" sub-folder, put downloaded zip file into it and unpack!
5) Everything should work!

You also can make "worlds" subfolder and put any your SMBX episodes to get stuff to test in the engine!

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

-> PGE 0.3.0
Updated version of editor and working experimental engine part to test your stuff and having more fun!
EDIT: Bugfix has been applied!

Changelog 0.3.0.1

Screenshots

Note: If you looking up for engine controlling, read this text file. In next builds of engine I will add ability to set up custom control keys.

Online installer

Get updated Online Installer for Windows. Online installer will download and install all necessary stuff automatically!

Portable packages
Standalone archives are including Editor, Engine, Playable Character Sprite Calibrator, GIFs2PNG, PNG2GIFs and LazyFix Tool. To get PGE working you must download one of configuration packages here

Download PGE 0.3.0.1 for Win32

Download PGE 0.3.0.1 for Linux Mint/Ubuntu

Download PGE 0.3.0-beta2 for Mac OS X
(be careful, this build is older than current builds for Windows and Linux. It works fine, but contains small unfixed bugs, to fix them I need rebuild it, but temporary I can't make new Mac builds)

Download experimental Android built of PGE Editor 0.3.0.1
(Recommended usage on tablets. Sound and music is not works. Install config pack into /sdcard/PGE Project data/configs folder)

Source code

Download source code (zip)

Download source code (tar.gz)

Duvi0 · Post by **Duvi0** » 9 years ago

Hi! Could someone provide me a tutorial on in-depth NPC editing, either through link or through post?
The reason is, I want to make a fighter fly attached to a volcano lotus the boss of a level, and I have a specific idea on how the player would beat it, but not only would I have to attach them to each other, but I'd need to give it 3 hits.
Thank you in advance!

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Small news
Just found problem with PGE Editor on Windows XP. Problem has been fixed, all downloads has been updated.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

PGE_Engine Version 0.0.10 pre-alpha playthrough by bossedit8 released yesterday:

Original link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yc2dGCzrQM

The new built of engine is available in laboratory (updated 0.0.10.1 which have more features than 0.0.10)

Post by **Wohlstand** » 8 years ago

...I think, Goombas are most dumb characters and has no algorithm!

Dummy NPC's at PGE Engine 0.0.11 which I will release soon after applying of a lots fixed in the lvl_npc.ini file, because I have lot wrong settings for NPC's which we will never see in the editor but will found in the engine only.

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