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Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

-> PGE Editor 0.2.2-rc
In this version fixed a lots of bugs and imperfections. Now you can work in the PGE Editor More convenient!

Main post was updated and reorganized! Updated available on the main post!

P.S. Before I will finish the "QuickStart" guide paragraph, you can read more understandable info on the Wiki page!

Changelog 0.2.2

Screenshots 0.2.2

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Update of config packs

All config packs was updated:

Fixed wrong offset of SMW Goal Tape bug in all config packs
All .MP3 musics was replaced with .OGG stuff which giving less size with high quality.

When I replaced all my HQ MP3 musics with compressed OGG quality 3/10, I got almost same quality, but much less size!

Reduced sizes of FULL config packs after replacement of MP3's with OGG's:

SMBX 1.3 reduced from 246 -> 95 MB
SM Redrawn reduced from 254 -> 98 MB
raocow's Talkhaus (A2MBXT) reduced from 198 -> 172 MB

* because it is update of global stuff, you will need to download "FULL" versions of config packs.

You can get new updates of config packs here:
http://engine.wohlnet.ru/config_packs.php
or here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3QNP ... authuser=0

* All updates already available if you will use "PGE Online Installer/Downloader"

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Support for music loops with traker music formats!
Hello! I just fixed little flag inside SDL2_mixer library:
https://github.com/Wohlhabend-Networks/ ... ed81b0fc8c

With it enabling a build-in support of loop points! (like original SPC, VGM, NSF formats!)
My little and dummy example:
http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/Music/mafia.zip
- play MID file in your regular player
- replace your SDL2_mixer in the LunaDLL package or in the PGE Editor (this update will be already in the next laboratory builds)
- try to use included "mafia.it" file which a looped music. I especially lopped tiny piece in begin to make a more understandable demo.

You also can open and make those musics with ModPlug Tracker: http://www.modplug.com/

To set loop points, use the "Position jump" effect to jump into another pattern and together with it use the "Pattern break" to set row in the second pattern.

http://modarchive.org/ - here is a big archive of a traker musics for your entertainment!

Enjoy! ;-)

ano0maly · Post by **ano0maly** » 9 years ago

I was wondering... is it possible to have a resource randomnizer feature? That is, instead of replacing a default graphic or sound X with graphic or sound Y, it picks randomly a pool of resources in a folder. It's to allow how a game can have more than one possible sound output at an action or event.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ano0maly wrote:I was wondering... is it possible to have a resource randomnizer feature? That is, instead of replacing a default graphic or sound X with graphic or sound Y, it picks randomly a pool of resources in a folder. It's to allow how a game can have more than one possible sound output at an action or event.

I think, yes ;-)
and it'd simple:
1) get list of file names (by list in the INI-file or everything in target folder)
2) check and leave in list valid only
3) each request of than file (sound or picture), dynamically return data of one of file

Post by **Hoeloe** » 9 years ago

Is it possible to change the render order of blocks? I have a set of moving blocks, and want to make sure they always go underneath another set of blocks. Is there a way to do that? At the moment they sometimes go above and sometimes below.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Hoeloe wrote:Is it possible to change the render order of blocks? I have a set of moving blocks, and want to make sure they always go underneath another set of blocks. Is there a way to do that? At the moment they sometimes go above and sometimes below.

No yet, also SMBX format restriction: all blocks should be sorted by x->y, or npc's will fall down. LVLX doesn't sort blocks (lvlx have blocks ordered by placement order without sorting of arrays) and you will have able to change their z-order like bgo's (I implemented the z-offset and z-layet values which giving able to set any z-order to bgo's, but for lvlx only.

Post by **Hoeloe** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:
Hoeloe wrote:Is it possible to change the render order of blocks? I have a set of moving blocks, and want to make sure they always go underneath another set of blocks. Is there a way to do that? At the moment they sometimes go above and sometimes below.
No yet, also SMBX format restriction: all blocks should be sorted by x->y, or npc's will fall down. LVLX doesn't sort blocks (lvlx have blocks ordered by placement order without sorting of arrays) and you will have able to change their z-order like bgo's (I implemented the z-offset and z-layet values which giving able to set any z-order to bgo's, but for lvlx only.

That's reasonable, but what about NPC sort order? I have a setup where multiple NPCs are put together to make one enemy, but they need to be drawn in the right order for this to work. I can work one out by setting it to draw to the foreground, but that doesn't work for everything.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Hoeloe wrote:
Wohlstand wrote:
Hoeloe wrote:Is it possible to change the render order of blocks? I have a set of moving blocks, and want to make sure they always go underneath another set of blocks. Is there a way to do that? At the moment they sometimes go above and sometimes below.
No yet, also SMBX format restriction: all blocks should be sorted by x->y, or npc's will fall down. LVLX doesn't sort blocks (lvlx have blocks ordered by placement order without sorting of arrays) and you will have able to change their z-order like bgo's (I implemented the z-offset and z-layet values which giving able to set any z-order to bgo's, but for lvlx only.
That's reasonable, but what about NPC sort order? I have a setup where multiple NPCs are put together to make one enemy, but they need to be drawn in the right order for this to work. I can work one out by setting it to draw to the foreground, but that doesn't work for everything.

NPC's, Water zones, warp points aren't sorting, so, I can implement the Z-layer and Z-offset values which can be converted as sorting key for SMBX format, but will still as Z-offset+Z-Layer in LVLX format. By anyway Z-order redefinition for blocks and for NPC's are planned. Also planned usage of Z-order change in the PGE Engine which you can use with LUA scripts, for example, some character appears from bush: jump up while under bush and when fall down, display over bush.
What about layers and events: everybody can redefine order of layers and events by simple drag and drop entries in list which wasn't supported in the SMBX editor, but available technically which implemented in the PGE

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Run native SMBX test from PGE Editor DIRECTLY
This is a small, but useful feature which giving able to run test in the running SMBX directly by alone click!

Requirements:

LunaLUA v 0.5.3: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=15459
Most fresh Dev build of PGE Editor which you can get here: http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_laboratory/

How to use:
1) Run both PGE Editor and SMBX (LunaLUA 0.5.3 should be installed!) (both applications should be running)
2) Leave SMBX Editor in default empty state and minimize it.
3) Switch to PGE Editor and open any level with it
4) Open in the PGE Editor a Test -> Run testing in the SMBX menuitem. Editor will be minimized and focus will be switched to SMBX Editor and testing will be launched.
Enjoy ;-)

Post by **raocow** » 9 years ago

hahaha, wow. one day the actual smbx editor will be fully replaced

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

raocow wrote:hahaha, wow. one day the actual smbx editor will be fully replaced

...later engine will be replaced too ;)

Experiment with switches in the PGE Engine (0.0.6 pre-alpha)

Note: If you wish to take laboratory build to test them, don't forget main rule: you SHOULD update configuration packs too, because I was updated them with adding of switches settings for blocks.

Post by **Willhart** » 9 years ago

World maps that have been created with this editor don't seem to work with the smbx. They cause error 9, subscript out of range and don't display correctly on the world selection screen.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Willhart wrote:World maps that have been created with this editor don't seem to work with the smbx. They cause error 9, subscript out of range and don't display correctly on the world selection screen.

Ow, crap! (just tested creation of dummy world from scratch and SMBX got too much bugs when I try to play it)
I will check what happened and will fix it now

EDIT: Mistake is dumb:
It's a wrong CRLF writing:

To perfectly works with LVL format (I made manual writing of CRLF because when you save files on Linux, it uses LF which SMBX doesn't understand, it understand CRLF only).
But with WLD appears than dumb bytes which I will fix now
Fix is simple: I should replace the "file.open(QFile::WriteOnly | QFile::Text)" with "file.open(QFile::WriteOnly)".

EDIT2: Fixed ;-)
https://github.com/Wohlhabend-Networks/ ... 96ff2474d9
Wait for next laboratory upload (after 24 minutes of full rebuild. Just in case I do full rebuild to prevent any junks in changed headers which causing dumb crashes, but those crashes are fixing with full rebuild).

EDIT3: Done, take fixed build from laboratory ;-)
http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_laboratory/

Alice · Post by **Alice** » 9 years ago

I have a suggestion for the editor. A useful idea for navigating a level would be to add a modifier key that as long as you're holding it clicking and dragging moves your view but it switches back to the previous tool when you let go of it. I suggest space since that's how Photoshop handles navigating a document and it's pretty simple and easy to remember that way.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Alice wrote:I have a suggestion for the editor. A useful idea for navigating a level would be to add a modifier key that as long as you're holding it clicking and dragging moves your view but it switches back to the previous tool when you let go of it. I suggest space since that's how Photoshop handles navigating a document and it's pretty simple and easy to remember that way.

Do you mean the "Hand drag mode" while key holden? (Now it is a separated tool which you can switch by toolbar, by middle mouse key but with no selected items, but to switch back you need to use "S" key to switch into selection mode, W to select-only mode, E to erasing mode). I think, is a good suggestion ;-)

Alice · Post by **Alice** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:Do you mean the "Hand drag mode" while key holden? (Now it is a separated tool which you can switch by toolbar, by middle mouse key but with no selected items, but to switch back you need to use "S" key to switch into selection mode, W to select-only mode, E to erasing mode). I think, is a good suggestion ;-)

Yup, that's exactly what I mean. Using W/S/E to switch between tools does work, I just thought it would be a lot more convenient for many people this way.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

Experimental Audio converting GUI over SoX console converter

This is a special feature which integrates SoX with PGE Editor: you will have ability to convert broken musics in three clicks:
- [ Tools -> External Tools -> Convert Audio ]
- Choice in the opened dialog a conversion settings (or simply press "Start" to re-sample music file of the current section)

- When you finished configuring of converter, press "Start" to begin conversion, and wait while process is going.
- When conversion will started, music will be paused, but when it will be finished, music will start playback again.

This feature available in the laboratory (and also SoX package)

pholtos · Post by **pholtos** » 9 years ago

Oh hey here's this thread. I noticed a thing.

Mushroom Platform is misspelled.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

pholtos wrote:Oh hey here's this thread. I noticed a thing.

Mushroom Platform is misspelled.

Oops

Take fixed file: http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_files_fo ... blocks.ini
(replace lvl_block.ini in each config pack to get fix of than typos. By anyway you can edit them yourself)

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

I've been working on Metroidvania game using the SMBX engine, because I thought it might be possible. Anyway, cutting to the chase:

The game relies on SMW Leeks/Stars disappearing from the game permanently after you've collected them. It also relies on being able to set warps to any part of a level. So here's the problem with illustrations:

Warp 5 in Hub.lvl is set to transport the player to Warp 1 of Stage1.lvl.

Warp 2 in Stage1.Lvl is set to transport the player to Warp 6 of Hub.lvl.

So, the idea is that the player warps out of Hub.Lvl and into Stage1.Lvl. Every now and then, the player has to return to Hub.lvl in order to save. unfortunately, when the player warps back into Hub.lvl, the leek that was supposed to have been collected has respawned, thus allowing the player to collect it a second time. The leek counter goes up by one, despite the fact that it's the same leek.

This only happens if I set the warps using PGE. If I use the SMBX editor, it doesn't appear to happen.

Ignore the unnecessary level file name in the level entrances. I've tried it with and without. That's not the problem. The problem is that for some reason, when I set the warps in PGE, the leeks respawn when the player warps back into the level.

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ztarwuff, I just tested this thing: I made the dummy episode with hub level and with takable leeks (SMW Star based)

http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_files_fo ... pisode.zip
By anyway everything is works.

I tested two styles of warp entrance/exit combinations:
- Put alone "entrance" point with "exit" flag and with definition of target level (same point will work as entrance and exit to than level)
- Put twine warps which you was presented

Both methods are works. (I made the video test of than thing.)

I used my latest build of PGE to make this dummy episode. New laboratory build has a much bug fixes to compare with previous builds and works more stable.

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Wohlstand wrote:ztarwuff, I just tested this thing: I made the dummy episode with hub level and with takable leeks (SMW Star based)

http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_files_fo ... pisode.zip
By anyway everything is works.

I tested two styles of warp entrance/exit combinations:
- Put alone "entrance" point with "exit" flag and with definition of target level (same point will work as entrance and exit to than level)
- Put twine warps which you was presented

Both methods are works. (I made the video test of than thing.)

I used my latest build of PGE to make this dummy episode. New laboratory build has a much bug fixes to compare with previous builds and works more stable.

Out of interest, what's your definition of latest build?

Post by **Wohlstand** » 9 years ago

ztarwuff wrote:Out of interest, what's your definition of latest build?

I mean the build which available in the "laboratory" http://engine.wohlnet.ru/docs/_laboratory/ (Online installer takes installation from laboratory directly!) When I making some features, I always uploads the new build into them.

ztarwuff · Post by **ztarwuff** » 9 years ago

Well, that's odd, because I used that exact same installer to download what I thought was the latest version. I did that on the 6th March.

If I use it again, do I need to delete the old PGE or does the installer write over the old one?

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