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A2MBXT - Graphics

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Willhart » 5 years ago

Grounder wrote:
Maybe he could appear right after the credits sequence, scuttering across the screen?
He could say something about the youth allways trying to destroy the world and making things difficult for their uncles.

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby SAJewers » 5 years ago

I'm up for a different Mouser Graphic if someone wants to make it up.

As for

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby darkychao » 5 years ago

SAJewers wrote:I'm up for a different Mouser Graphic if someone wants to make it up.

As for

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, I like it much better than Professor Watson.
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Menshay » 5 years ago

Said graphic is done. It's wider than normal so I had to use a npc.txt file, but since it's for a single level and I don't see any way it could break something I guess it shouldn't be a problem. This isn't really final unless everyone thinks it's fine (the walk cycle could use a bit more work, I guess.)
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby SAJewers » 5 years ago

I was kinda hoping we could him in place of the current Mouser Replacement, otherwise I'd have to enlarge the Cast graphic, which is something I do not want to do. Is there any way that you could do that graphic without increasing the width?
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Menshay » 5 years ago

The way I understood this (see Voltgloss's post in the previous page) he's supposed to replace

only the Mouser at the end of The Tower of Dr. Zalost, the last level of Zebraspace, as last-minute foreshadowing of the next episodes

. I just can't see him as a regular replacement.

I honestly didn't think about the credits. I don't know how they're set up, but I reiterate, I only changed the width and not the height. Also since he's some kind of "secret" he might be excluded, or possibly credited as something like ??? in a post-credits preview of some kind.

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby KingTwelveSixteen » 5 years ago

Aw no, don't change the detective raocow hammer suit, that's one of the best powerups in the game! :(

I love that thing.

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Grounder » 5 years ago

Menshay wrote:The way I understood this (see Voltgloss's post in the previous page) he's supposed to replace

only the Mouser at the end of The Tower of Dr. Zalost, the last level of Zebraspace, as last-minute foreshadowing of the next episodes

. I just can't see him as a regular replacement.

I honestly didn't think about the credits. I don't know how they're set up, but I reiterate, I only changed the width and not the height. Also since he's some kind of "secret" he might be excluded, or possibly credited as something like ??? in a post-credits preview of some kind.
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Willhart » 5 years ago

Here is the current mouser replacement in case someone wants to redraw him.
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Postby raocow » 5 years ago

I always feel weird when an 'official' replacement is a sprite from another game. Like for a one level joke, sure, but...

Would it be possible to adapt the wizard giraffe from a2mt ? It would have to be a bit thicker but...
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby ztarwuff » 5 years ago

Make angrycow the one that throws fire. It fits thematically.

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Willhart » 5 years ago

ztarwuff wrote:Make angrycow the one that throws fire. It fits thematically.
That graphic is too special for such a common powerup.

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Menshay » 5 years ago

Yeah, what is the current Mouser replacement anyway?

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Postby raocow » 5 years ago

it's a vortimom from the early commander keens.
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby SAJewers » 5 years ago

Considering we originally had Super Demento as our SMB3 Bowser replacement, and it had to be nixed, it might be wise to nix vortimom as well.

EDIT: Might also be a good idea to replace the SMW Door graphic as well, since I think that's from NSMB.

EDIT2: OK, here's a quick list:

npc-273 (graphic is fine, but could use some more shading)
npc-266 (Sheath's Hammer things. We never replaced this)
npc-255 (could use some better shading. not sure if this is from something)
npc-203 (again, graphic is fine, but could use some shading)
npc-13 (never changed. maybe recolour them to match each character?)
npc-185 (someone suggested changing this)
npc-211 (Not sure if this one really fits with npc-210. I'll leave it up to you guys, but I'm fine with leaving it as-is)
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Menshay » 5 years ago

SAJewers wrote:Might also be a good idea to replace the SMW Door graphic as well, since I think that's from NSMB.
Design-wise only though.

What sprites from AS/2MT haven't been used yet? Toaster Birdo (or is it?), Sledge Wall-E, and then?

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Grounder » 5 years ago

Toaster Birdo is normal Birdo.
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby SAJewers » 5 years ago

Yeah, We're kinda already using Toaster Birdo, but a different graphic.

Also, I forgot to mention the Bully should be reshaded, as well as effect-108 (which we didn't change).
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Willhart » 5 years ago

npc-255 is

an extended version of the door from An Untitled Story with added key hole.



Edit: I can't find a clear image of Jerry the giraffe magikoopa.

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Sandcastles:
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby pholtos » 5 years ago

So that red pepper(?), one of the ground vegetables is really hard to see as demo when facing right. Is that meant to happen?
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Mabel » 5 years ago

Popcorn for leaf replacement...

we should totally do that...(and since its the only one that hasn't gotten a change)
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby darkychao » 5 years ago

Mabel wrote:Popcorn for leaf replacement...

we should totally do that...(and since its the only one that hasn't gotten a change)
It was changed to spinach.
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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Menshay » 5 years ago

Willhart wrote:Edit: I can't find a clear image of Jerry the giraffe magikoopa.
What about non-clear images? If the sprites got lost there'd be at least some reference.

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Re: A2MBXT - Graphics

Postby Mabel » 5 years ago

darkychao wrote:
Mabel wrote:Popcorn for leaf replacement...

we should totally do that...(and since its the only one that hasn't gotten a change)
It was changed to spinach.
Oh it's spinach? Thought it was just a green smb3 leaf...
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