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Episode 1 Discussion Thread

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Should we use a HUB or an overworld?

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AUS wrote:Add some from other people's lists too. If we have multiple choices, I'd want a megalist. Plus I don't like most of those.
That did have titles from other people.
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If you're adding bugs/issues to the wiki, please, be more specific than just the level name in your titles. It's not helpful to me at all when trying to skim through if the title/heading is vague.

Also, try to add in colour to those tables. It's easier and quicker for me to see the status on a bug and it's severity with the cells coloured in.


EDIT: Also, if you see 2 issues in a level, post them seperate. Whoever submitted the 2 things for Giant Egg, repost them as seperate.

Also, sign your name when you post a bug there, so I know who posted it.
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Are we not concerned at all about players' early access to infinite life farms?
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Voltgloss wrote:Are we not concerned at all about players' early access to infinite life farms?
Depends on when. If It's early on, then we'll probably want to avoid life farms. Late in the game, we'll probably keep them in.
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Voltgloss wrote:Are we not concerned at all about players' early access to infinite life farms?
Depends on when. If It's early on, then we'll probably want to avoid life farms. Late in the game, we'll probably keep them in.
OK. Then I'll repost that issue with Giant Egg.
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Maybe I'm being a bit too confusing, but keep the Description short, and just explain to the point what the bug/issue is in the description. I don't want to read a description that has paragraphs of text.

Use the comment space below to expand on the description and leave your signature.
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Are we not supposed to comment if we think a level is out of place difficulty-wise compared to the rest of the levels in a world? I see someone changed my entry on Giant Egg's difficulty not fitting World 1 to read, "Not A Problem."
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Septentrion Pleiades wrote:
AUS wrote:Add some from other people's lists too. If we have multiple choices, I'd want a megalist. Plus I don't like most of those.
That did have titles from other people.
Sorry, not good enough.
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AUS wrote:
Septentrion Pleiades wrote:
AUS wrote:Add some from other people's lists too. If we have multiple choices, I'd want a megalist. Plus I don't like most of those.
That did have titles from other people.
Sorry, not good enough.
How very helpful. Next time, I'll just list ever thing every suggested.

You could have suggested specific names but you instead just complain without offering any actual input.
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You picked about 2% of how many suggestions there actually are.
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AUS wrote:You picked about 2% of how many suggestions there actually are.
And again you don't suggest a specific name.
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If you're literally asking me "what would you choose, AUS" then a pox on you for not noticing my several suggestions previously in this thread. In fact, there are tons of clever names that people suggested that you seemed to not have noticed!

Perhaps someone else should compile them in list form?
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Okay, let's reverse narrow this down.
Panic in Crazytown

Objectivism Not Expedient
SAJewers wrote: That The Overworld Looks great.
Trial of iron

Quest of VIDEOGAMEZ
Anyways, do you actually have suggestions? Since you want to criticize my list, why don't you tell me what things should be in it.
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Yeah, OK.

This is AUS's list of potential names compiled from a lot of people and AUS (in order of appearance):
Uncle Broadsword's Revenge
Unidentified Flying Objectivism
Don't stop me now
The longest game name
Winner gets a prize
Early days
The grand finale
Deported Tapestry
Robot Tulips of the Prose
Quest of VIDEOGAMEZ
Interquel to the Stupid
What's Eating The Stupid?
A Midsummer Night's Stupid
Clash Of The Stupid
Game Abuse
This Also Exists
Existence Strikes Back
A Lime in the Daylight
Welcome to New Jersey
The Parsimony of Clement
Sibling Revolt
Manger Ananas
raocow & The Great Tabnarak
raocow vs la Sainte Merde
Objectivism Not Expedient
The Wealth Overwhelming
To Hell Roam Enraging Equines
Meet the Family
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Stupid
Actual Consequence
a2mbxt here's another one
Cycloptic Intrigue
Rise of the Proletariat
Panic in Crazytown
Washing Machine Emulator
Ananas Unleashed
Tumble Dryer Simulator
In Cow We Trust?
Remain In Your Seat
A Nameless Tale
No Pixels Were Harmed
Not Safe To Eat
We Left This Here
Now With Extra Veggies
Canon Fodder
A Family Thing
A Sibling Thing
A Science Thing
Existence Strikes Back
Rao Dies At The End
At Demo's End
FDA Approved Edition
Fantastical Fruit Journey
This Game Is Purple
A2MBXT:E1:AST
The problem here is about the opposite problem I had with your list.
In that..Whew. Just look at all those names.
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AUS wrote:Yeah, OK.

This is AUS's list of potential names compiled from a lot of people and AUS (in order of appearance):
Uncle Broadsword's Revenge - originally episode two suggestion
Unidentified Flying Objectivism - Misleading characterization
Don't stop me now - isn't that a song title?
The longest game name - I think that was a meta post
Winner gets a prize - False advertising?
Early days - We have weird chronology
The grand finale - wrong episode
Deported Tapestry - basing the name off of a game that has nothing to do with this.
Robot Tulips of the Prose - Long and random
Quest of VIDEOGAMEZ - I think this might fit episode two better
Interquel to the Stupid
What's Eating The Stupid?
A Midsummer Night's Stupid
Clash Of The Stupid - I still think "Stupid" is potential player repellant
Game Abuse - Also repellant
This Also Exists
Existence Strikes Back - Episode two sounding
A Lime in the Daylight
Welcome to New Jersey - what?
The Parsimony of Clement - what?
Sibling Revolt
Manger Ananas - What?
raocow & The Great Tabnarak - Isn't this a reference to french swearing?
raocow vs la Sainte Merde - episode three is the more raocow centered episode.
Objectivism Not Expedient - Sounds clunky
The Wealth Overwhelming
To Hell Roam Enraging Equines
- these were base on the acronym for 2 and 3
Meet the Family
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Stupid - this is oddly antagonist to the word "stupid", so it might not be a repellant
Actual Consequence - episode four
a2mbxt here's another one - not title sounding. Also presupposes knowledge.
Cycloptic Intrigue
Rise of the Proletariat - This was critiqued in my list
Panic in Crazytown - Generic
Washing Machine Emulator Stolen randomness.
Ananas Unleashed - wat
Tumble Dryer Simulator - nothing to do with anything
In Cow We Trust? - Ep three is rao episode
Remain In Your Seat - Car safety title? I don't see this winning out
A Nameless Tale
No Pixels Were Harmed - Generic
Not Safe To Eat - Safety is not catchy
We Left This Here
Now With Extra Veggies - Will be mistaken as not even part of the title. this can still show up in the title screen
Canon Fodder - Generic
A Family Thing
A Sibling Thing - weaker than next suggestion
A Science Thing
Existence Strikes Back - episode two?
Rao Dies At The End spoiler and non distinctive?
At Demo's End
FDA Approved Edition - see "Now With Extra Veggies"
Fantastical Fruit Journey - If we actually stuck with that theme. Plus it's vegetables.
This Game Is Purple - is that a promise we intend to keep?
A2MBXT:E1:AST Letter!
The problem here is about the opposite problem I had with your list.
In that..Whew. Just look at all those names.
Some of these were specifically made up for other episodes.

I edited your list in hopes that you can see how to narrow this down, since we probably won't agree on everything. This is basically the thought process I have of narrowing it down. Right now, that list is so big nearly everyone will breeze over most of it without dedicated analysis(opposite problem).
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"Don't stop me now" is probably a reference to..I dunno. At some point raocow was suggesting all the dialogue demo gives to be in queen lyrics.
I do believe 'the grand finale' was a suggestion for episode 1. I think it's supposed to be a joke. :P
-Anything with Stupid in it: Yeah, let's cut those out.

So, I cut some more out. Here's the list now:
Uncle Broadsword's Revenge - Too nonsensical without actually sounding funny.
Unidentified Flying Objectivism - Objectivism isn't really funny, and it doesn't fit.
Don't stop me now
The longest game name
Winner gets a prize
-These names are just kinda lame
Early days
Deported Tapestry - Although I don't mind the reference..I kinda mind the reference.
Robot Tulips of the Prose - Long and random __ I actually like it
Quest of VIDEOGAMEZ - I think this might fit episode two better __ Perhaps
Interquel to the Stupid
What's Eating The Stupid?
A Midsummer Night's Stupid
Clash Of The Stupid
Game Abuse
- Previously given reasons
This Also Exists
Existence Strikes Back - Episode two sounding __ This is the second game, you know. :P
A Lime in the Daylight
Welcome to New Jersey - what? __ Exactly. That's why I like it.
The Parsimony of Clement - what? __ Actually, on this one I have no idea.
Sibling Revolt
Manger Ananas - What? __ *shrug*
raocow & The Great Tabnarak - Isn't this a reference to french swearing? __ Oh. You're right.
raocow vs la Sainte Merde - episode three is the more raocow centered episode. __ I have no opinion
Objectivism Not Expedient - Sounds clunky __ Agreed
Meet the Family
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Stupid
a2mbxt here's another one - not title sounding. Also presupposes knowledge. __ What do you mean? Asmbxt was "one" and, here's another. :P
Cycloptic Intrigue
Rise of the Proletariat
Panic in Crazytown - Generic
Ananas Unleashed - wat
Tumble Dryer Simulator - nothing to do with anything
In Cow We Trust? - Ep three is rao episode
Remain In Your Seat - Car safety title? I don't see this winning out

A Nameless Tale
No Pixels Were Harmed - Generic
Not Safe To Eat - Safety is not catchy

We Left This Here
Now With Extra Veggies - Will be mistaken as not even part of the title. this can still show up in the title screen
Canon Fodder - Generic
A Sibling Thing - weaker than next suggestion
A Science Thing
Existence Strikes Back - episode two __ Game two
At Demo's End
FDA Approved Edition - see "Now With Extra Veggies"
Fantastical Fruit Journey - If we actually stuck with that theme. Plus it's vegetables.
This Game Is Purple - is that a promise we intend to keep?
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The Parsimony of Clement - seems to mean Stingyness of a particular historic figure. It's just "cheap guy" made to sound fancy. I would say this is safe to cut.
a2mbxt here's another one - not title sounding. Also presupposes knowledge. __ What do you mean? Asmbxt was "one" and, here's another. :P
First of all "Another one" is much better sounding for a title.

What I meant is someone might not have heard of the ASMBXT game before they hear of this. We shouldn't rely on referencing the game before because A2MBXT planned to be it's own series within A Universe Thing.

We should get this reorganized but I'm going to go to bed, so if anyone wants a last minute suggestion or request for a title, they better make it soon. We will only end up going with one, so we can't just keep adding options.
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Like I have said earlier, I'm just throwing random ideas out and seeing what sticks. If you think these have potential, that's cool. If not, that's okay.
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Voltgloss wrote:Are we not supposed to comment if we think a level is out of place difficulty-wise compared to the rest of the levels in a world? I see someone changed my entry on Giant Egg's difficulty not fitting World 1 to read, "Not A Problem."
Did you originally mark it "Not A Bug"?
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SAJewers wrote:
Voltgloss wrote:Are we not supposed to comment if we think a level is out of place difficulty-wise compared to the rest of the levels in a world? I see someone changed my entry on Giant Egg's difficulty not fitting World 1 to read, "Not A Problem."
Did you originally mark it "Not A Bug"?
I originally marked it as "Balance Issue." Then the comment was deleted, and something else I'd reported was changed to "Not A Bug" - I forget what - while everything I'd marked as "Balance Issue" was changed to other things. So I figured "we're not supposed to use the terminology 'Balance Issue' but we are supposed to use the terminology 'Not A Bug,'" and so when I reposted this issue I marked it "Not A Bug" because it's not a bug per se. I do think it's a problem though. Specifically, a balance issue. Which is what I originally called it. But that's apparently not what we're supposed to use to describe things.

I'm trying to be helpful but I feel like the terminology and requirements we're supposed to use to report bugs keeps changing. :)
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I was just watching someone review a game called Not the Robots (except the game was about a robot), which got me thinking.

How's about: Not a Sequel?
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Voltgloss wrote:
SAJewers wrote:
Voltgloss wrote:Are we not supposed to comment if we think a level is out of place difficulty-wise compared to the rest of the levels in a world? I see someone changed my entry on Giant Egg's difficulty not fitting World 1 to read, "Not A Problem."
Did you originally mark it "Not A Bug"?
I originally marked it as "Balance Issue." Then the comment was deleted, and something else I'd reported was changed to "Not A Bug" - I forget what - while everything I'd marked as "Balance Issue" was changed to other things. So I figured "we're not supposed to use the terminology 'Balance Issue' but we are supposed to use the terminology 'Not A Bug,'" and so when I reposted this issue I marked it "Not A Bug" because it's not a bug per se. I do think it's a problem though. Specifically, a balance issue. Which is what I originally called it. But that's apparently not what we're supposed to use to describe things.

I'm trying to be helpful but I feel like the terminology and requirements we're supposed to use to report bugs keeps changing. :)
Status should only be marked as Unfixed (problem has not been fixed), Fixed (has been fixed), or Not Problem (doesn't need any change or fix). That's why I changed "Not A Bug" to "Not Problem", to avoid that kind of confusion.

For Severity, use minor unless you believe the bug/issue needs to be taken care of ASAP and should delay the release of the Game, or it's a Copyright/ContentID issue.

EDIT: OK, I added a guide to the wiki page to explain what to use when. Hopefully that helps.
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I just deleted that Giant Egg entry. Difficulty is subjective, and the entry is causing more confusion than it's worth because it's not easy categorizable.

I left my other entry on Giant Egg providing easy infinite lives.
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Wouldn't it be a good idea if we post a list of things people should be checking out for when reviewing levels? It's just, I couldn't help but notice that a few of the bugs being reported on are things that really could have been pointed out earlier on in the level review process.
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Maiku Wotaharu wrote:Like I have said earlier, I'm just throwing random ideas out and seeing what sticks. If you think these have potential, that's cool. If not, that's okay.
Your Average Wednesday
Marisa Explains It All
Incognito Burrito
Homage To Fromage
The Maple Leaf Caper
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While You Were Busy
The Demise Of Sanity
The War On Terriers
EDIT!
A Call-in Mockery
Enter the Wombat
Void Where Prohibited
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Curse Your Bran Flakes!
Poutine On The Ritz
Ooh! Catchy Title!
The Meaning Of Strife
Etude Of The Absurd
Item On The Menu
Plumbers, Begone!
A Great Injustice, Man!
We don't need more lists at this point. If you want a title considered just choose one.
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