NEW! SMW2 Yoshi's Island is "difficult"

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True story, but that doesn't mean it's easy. The older version of it was all about practice, actually, but still a hard level. The newer version of the level is still not easy, but a lot more predictable and a little more forgiving.
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Since the older version depends on practice, I'd give it like 9 for blind and 7 for when you don't play blind, but also don't fully know where the hazards are.
The newer version blind gets a 6 from me.
Since both versions are short, I don't consider the difficulty to be too much of a problem.
But as said, that's my personal estimation, so I don't know how you guys/girls (if there are any around here) feel about it.
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Alex wrote:The replacement, smartass.
My apologies, I meant that as a joke and it completely fell flat.
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we all knew the next castle level wouldn't be a full level video, but I didn't expect it to 'end' so soon.

HideofBeast/Alex/Yoshi's Fan: top left door - that one large room with the ninja guy and the rock. How do you get to that rock/what is it for/did I waste a huge amount of time for a 1up again ?
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The Chomp Rock reveals a Flower.
In order to solve that puzzle, make sure, the Chomp Rock hasn't spawned, yet, and go below the brick. Wait for the Zeus Guy to come at you and jump off from it in order to get on top of it before Chomp Rock has enough time to get stuck. It requires some good timing and controls, but I'm sure you can make it.
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Okay, well, it's good to know I had the right idea then, and where I was lacking was execution. Hmm.
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This is pretty late to the party but if you're still having trouble/didn't return to it today, here's a demonstration. Maybe your problem was you were trying too early? You want the Zeus Guy level with you because it's a tight hover. If he's on the ramp portion of your platform you won't get enough height. You also need to play tricks with the game's camera which is kind of unintuitive, although I'd call the up arrow a good enough hint.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5wS56dCNbQyhk2VTDZ

While you're up there, there's a bit of a problem with the topmost puzzle that I don't think Yoshis Fan has solved as of this latest patch. When you shoot the breakable block in the ceiling with an egg, the bounce arrow might not spawn because you are too low. If it doesn't, go to the top right corner's platform (where the rock was), force the camera to go up, then walk back and it should fall.
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yeah so since about 5:30 this morning I've been trying to upload the latest video and it just won't go beyond the 'processing' phase. I leave for work in 20 minutes. If I can't make it work till then... let's hope it 'processes' at some point in the day?!
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Yeah, Youtube's having their usual "changes screw up the site" moments lately. They processed, but man, those errors can and do drive me nuts.
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Provided you will be tackling 6-5 today, here's a very general hint that's still spoilered in case you're feeling confident:
pay very close attention to peculiarities in your surroundings. All copies are complete, even if they don't appear so at first.
If you're still stuck on 6-4, I'll say three things.
Remember all objects save a select few are only tracked by the game if they are close enough. That includes your eggs. Secondly, the door you're trying to follow is in a room that's too narrow to have it despawned horizontally. Dodge platforms to your heart's content. Lastly, when you get to the boss, if you're getting massacred...Try ducking. Work from there.
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Too vague, better outline the entire level
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I'm sure I'll be telling myself that verboten in a couple of days.
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raocow, please use one of the newer versions of the hack for playing 6-5. (Means, in case you have updated the last time before 2012-07-05, do it, please.)
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I really enjoyed todays level.The many doors were pretty neat and that "ride the transparent taxi-ghost" part was really well made.
The boss-fight was kinda weird but I can't imagine how to make that boss any more interesting than spikes and stuff, so it was allright.
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You know, the fight was would have been made 10x easier if you just started aiming upwards and threw your egg.
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Is it too late to take back what I said?
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the link in your op on the thread over there leads me to 'file not found'
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Fixed. Also, for some reason I thought you'd already have the update? Eh, doesn't matter now.
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Because Megaman is straightforward. Super precise and demanding platforming while having to explore everything, solve puzzles, and abuse tools, is probably what is wearing you down. I think it wouldn't be that bad for you if you just played through the levels without caring at all for 100%.

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Well, face it, Yoshi's Island is an exploration game in chunks. Like I said before, it's meant to be explored, then completed. Your mindset has to be on either exploring or execution/platforming; doing both only works if you checkpoint everywhere like you did with Metroid Legacy.
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Don't forget that the Megaman game is also someone's "original" creation, meaning that they can add new elements as they see fit. While Yoshi's Fan did a considerable amount of customizing to YI, it doesn't change the fact that it's still YI with the vanilla YI elements intact.

I'm enjoying watching both series, though.
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Didn't you just get done saying world 6 is by far your favorite?
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Oh, yeah. That's pretty much inevitable.

Not to be Debbie and her twin, but I don't see the sun shining much on you with the rest of this, raocow. It's just divorced from your style of preference.
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In all its complexity, raocow forgets to grasp how simple the level is built and it's a short level, too.
raocow, if you're going for 100 pts, I'd recommend re-visiting the seemingly dead-end rooms which didn't make any sense to you and have a closer look on what is going on (there were enough hints; in the first one of them you've missed something evident in the video and in the second room you should have done what you've tried in the first room. The almost equal structure of each of these rooms is a good thing to comply with either).

*Edit*
Also, Alex, from badass, dark Fire-Mario to Anime girl with a flute? Diversion?
I found the former image a lot more fitting for you (no discredit intended).
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Perhaps you don't like playing Yoshi becuase subconsciously you know you could do better playing. Let's face it, Rao is a pretty terrible Yoshi player.
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