NEW! SMW2 Yoshi's Island is "difficult"

[Sebby19]

Well, this is what happens when you don't pay attention.

[Argumentable]

This probably comes off as snarky but I finally find these videos interesting enough to watch. World 6 is good

[ano0maly]

Hey, a bait and switch video.

He got me with it at first. His Voxatron LP is one of the few I'm just not interested in. Had to go finish VIP3 instead.

The thumb was clearly Voxatron. The video not having a proper title gave it away too.

Just saying

I know that. Just noting it for amusement.

[EiresWind]

You gotta pound every post, raocow. Every post. Always.

:I

EDIT: Oh, concerning that 1UP at the beginning. These are two ways I've found to get it. Neither is less ridiculous than the other. You were chasing the right idea at the beginning of that Voxatron video.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1b9vYC6nYpHDl3aUJ5

For people who DM is giving trouble, is this purely with my videos or DM as a whole? If it's just me I might have an idea. Has anyone been able to watch these things?

[EiresWind]

Because these are pretty much just random odds and ends that aren't that important and I'd feel like kind of dick since I've been neglecting my channel for a long-ass time now for wont of something interesting to upload, and people'd be pretty pissed to see some 30 second demo from a YI hack when it finally got around I'd put something new up. In hindsight I really should've just dummied a channel or uploaded the videos privately, but this is the first time I've come across trouble sharing videos from DM.

But droning on about this is so far removed from the point of this thread I'll leave it there.

[Argumentable]

make it unlisted

[EiresWind]

Does that shit really cut off notices? The more I know.

[CrystalJadeNext]

Yoshis Fan, you could've easily just made another salvo fight or hidden area that gives you more than a single one-up, you know.

[EiresWind]

Not sure how far you've already gotten in the next level, and I'm absolutely positive it's going to be a two-parter, but the rules of thumb are: always take the full four large eggs possible whenever you come to a source, except in the very last set of twin doors, where you should take two large and four normal and work with it. Or, as a trade-off, take more but be absolutely certain you have at least four normal eggs before dropping down to the red switches. Also, keep in mind enemies are only tracked by the game when close enough to 'on-screen', and bubbles will invariably bounce you upward regardless of where you contact them from. Finally, don't forget red switches respawn, and this includes ones you've already stomped. You can keep refreshing one if you want to micro-manage parts of a path. Good luck!

[Yoshis_Fan]

Yeah, 6-3 is a very long level for being a normal one, 6-4 is very long as well. But, don't worry, 6-5 is only medium-size =P
Also, there are changes for level 6-5, so I'll release another version of the hack; please apply it before playing 6-5; it fixes some glitches.

[Sebby19]

I think the only red coin you missed was the Fly Guy on the last chomp gauntlet.

[EagleEye]

Ocho is 8, once is 11.

[Yoshis_Fan]

"Acht" ist 8, "Elf" ist 11 und "Siebenundfünfzigmillionenvierhundertachtundsechzigtausendneunhundertzweiunddreißig" ist 57,468,932.

[EiresWind]

Ah, that reminds me, this is something I'd wanted to puzzle out for myself for awhile anyway, and it might be useful to you depending on how much of 6-3 you've tackled and how stuck you end up getting in the latter half. This is a (to the best of my routing, at least) streamlined run through 6-3, collecting 100%. I suppose Yoshis Fan can attest to its brevity if he's got the time and interest to watch, but I think it's about as short a distance as can be traveled.

Obviously, this isn't something to watch unless you've already beaten 6-3, or are completely stumped on a part. I'm not be doing this for every stage to tempt like a complete spoilsport, but this one is a bit of a nonlinear nightmare so I thought it'd be fun. There are some individual puzzles in upcoming stages that would benefit you to have the option of seeing, but I think Yoshis Fan can forgive a bit of preview as long as it's clearly marked without kicking up too strong a fuß. (Sorry.)

Here's DM: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3u1H583nRsBNa3b2N7
And per advice here's YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcydvIn66gA

[Yoshis_Fan]

Nah, don't worry, Eireswind.
Also, nice shortcut

in the second area with the Ice Melon,

I already thought I'd be the only one using it. As for the GOAL! thing not spawning, well, too many Sprites on screen, this can hardly be fixed (but I may)...

*Edit*
Basically, the aim is: limiting the amount of Giant Eggs to 3.
There are three ways to achieve this and I guess the least complicated way is the best for everyone.
Most Complicated: Make an ASM-Hack, so Fat Guys do not generate Giant Eggs in case Yoshi already has 3 of them. I can't make one myself and it's unlikely anyone is willing to make one for me anytime soon.
Less Complicated: Add a kill-room, which spawns a door and force the player to use the 4th egg, in case he has one. This involves disabling items for the whole stage, since POW or ?-Cloud items can break this.
Least Complicated: In the room with the two Fat Guys, remove one of them. It is not 100% safe, it's 99% safe, since one can "import" Giant Eggs from former rooms and get hit by the obstacles instead of using them to destroy the obstacles.

[EiresWind]

Why cripple a player with the first two options over something cosmetic? It doesn't affect completing the stage at all. Also, I went out of my way to bring four big eggs over for kicks. No one else is gonna bother doing that.

At any rate, if it's that important the third choice is the obvious go-to. Someone would have to be incensed to force the 1% option.

EDIT: Yeah I missed you flat-out stating you were gonna use the third solution because the English language apparently confuses me.

[Yoshis_Fan]

What do you mean?
The method I'll use in order to fix that doesn't involve Item Disabling (misread something?), so the player is not "crippled" for the duration of the level.
As for my motives, it simply is perfectionism, I want to reduce everything which disturbs the normal process of the level to a minimum; puzzle breaking and graphic oddities/non-appearing Sprites are part of it.

[ACesspoolofHatred]

Amazing playing in that walkthrough video, EiresWind.

......Also, I want the music in that video.

All of it.

[EiresWind]

Here's the tracklist: http://niffpage.greywool.com/files/Music/Cityscapes/

[Sebby19]

Nice level, some serious thought must have gone into this one.

[Yoshis_Fan]

Well, a level without any thought in it doesn't make sense, no?
Just wait until you see Secret 6.

[EiresWind]

EDIT: Nevermind, this is pointless fearmongering.

Yoshis Fan, if I've got your blessing for it, I'd done up a streamlined expose of 6-S (akin to the one I did for 6-3) for another forum recently. It was for personal reasons as much as anything because I really wanted to conquer the level in an unbroken manner, which took... ages and ages. When that stage finally hits the boilerplate, and all's said and done, do you mind if I shared it here too?

That's likely a ways off, though.

[Yoshis_Fan]

Well, you can hardly demand, that raocow does not use savestates. Even I have my difficulties to win this stage in less than

an hour

without savestates, thus,

on a scale of 0-10, I've labelled the estimated (by me) difficulty 11, "insane".

(Seeing you've edited:)
When raocow is done with the level (as I said way earlier, please don't spoiler a single element of this level), I'd really appreciate to see how you make/made it through it.

[EagleEye]

2-E was easy. That's why he replaced it.

[Yoshis_Fan]

^ Lolwut? Could you link the post or whatever, please, where I said the replacement of the really easy 2-E was easy?

*Edit*
@raocow: Updated version's out, please apply it to a fresh ROM before playing 6-5.