Gensou Tansaku Nitroid!: Now With 100% Less Medicine Physics

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You kind of overcomplicated the beginning of today's puzzle; you can just let the gear get down to the lower part, activate the wind orb (preferably with a bomb so that it doesn't interfere with the next step), and then stun the gear so you can get up to the top and activate the black switch.

Also the upcoming section is incredibly fun, if rather difficult. Can't wait for tomorrow's video.
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kilon wrote:off topic: raocow, set the channel so that either we see the last uploaded videos on the featured tab or make it so that we automatically go to the feed tab. Makes things just a tiny bit easier and we don't care about those playlists anyway.
Thanks. And no, I don't know how to do that. It's possible though.

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yoshicookiezeus wrote: Also the upcoming section is incredibly fun, if rather difficult. Can't wait for tomorrow's video.
this is a good way of summing that section!
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I've managed to defeat
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yoshicookiezeus wrote:You kind of overcomplicated the beginning of today's puzzle; you can just let the gear get down to the lower part, activate the wind orb (preferably with a bomb so that it doesn't interfere with the next step), and then stun the gear so you can get up to the top and activate the black switch.
I did this as well, but I think what raocow did here was the intended solution

I always found it strange how there was a whole part of the puzzle that didnt serve any purpose

oh man its the ice thing. I couldn't get past this without using a shirikodama, guess I'm not that good at platforming
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Right, that next section, if you try the usual approach of tanking hits, it won't work. 8 health with no shirikodamas is not enough to survive all those hits.
Use the Earthkeeper.
I have recently confirmed that it's very doable if you do it this way (in one attempt, survived the whole part after taking only 5 hits).
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In relation to the above post: does this hold the record for the longest LP (timespan, not parts) yet? I don't recall any other LP being drawn out this much, unless MariAri lasted longer than I can remember.
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Thissa wrote:Nitroid - 125 days
Mario Gives Up - 126 days ("Super FINAL" came 3 months after "FINAL")
TSRPR - 129 days (this includes the first video of the abandoned savestateless run 3 months after the main LP)
VIP2 Original Run - 130 days (extra day between each episode because of the bowling alley thread, also a couple demo videos 2 months before the main LP)
What The Hell development videos - 179 days (strictly speaking though, this isn't an LP)
SMI2 - 190 days (extra day between episodes because of the bowling alley thread, also bonus video 4 months after main LP)

So... it depends on how you define LP, if you're including bonus videos... but if not, then by the end of the week, yes, Nitroid will be the longest-running LP.

Also, for comparison:
SMW+2: 123 days
Vanilla 2010: 100 days
SMW+: 96 days
MARIARI: 90 days
add about 60 for nitroid, and it still doesn't beat smi2 today
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What is the bowling alley thread
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a0n0o0m0a0l0y wrote:What is the bowling alley thread
It was a thread on SA where raocow was doing four different Mario hacks at the same time, giving them all one video per day or so. Some days, he'd switch it up and do a few episodes of the same game just to get it going along.
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Going to save you some frustration and say that you aren't supposed to be able to bounce your way through the part right where you ended today's video with the tools you have now. And you were right about the room being automatic; however, it tends to not always work, and what happened when you were going through it wasn't what was supposed to happen. You'll easily know when it does work out as intended.

Also, just for your information, the first jump in the wind section is done by hyperdashing into the wall above and to the right of the save point so that you get enough momentum to reach the first block.
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The reason you kept not having control when de-Earthkeeping is because the de-Earthkeep process actually takes Nitori slightly off the ground. It's only a few pixels, but it means you can't jump because you're still considered in the air. Combine this with the fact that the wind doesn't care where you are and you have that moment of panic.
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O-Card wrote:
Thissa wrote:Nitroid - 125 days
Mario Gives Up - 126 days ("Super FINAL" came 3 months after "FINAL")
TSRPR - 129 days (this includes the first video of the abandoned savestateless run 3 months after the main LP)
VIP2 Original Run - 130 days (extra day between each episode because of the bowling alley thread, also a couple demo videos 2 months before the main LP)
What The Hell development videos - 179 days (strictly speaking though, this isn't an LP)
SMI2 - 190 days (extra day between episodes because of the bowling alley thread, also bonus video 4 months after main LP)

So... it depends on how you define LP, if you're including bonus videos... but if not, then by the end of the week, yes, Nitroid will be the longest-running LP.

Also, for comparison:
SMW+2: 123 days
Vanilla 2010: 100 days
SMW+: 96 days
MARIARI: 90 days
add about 60 for nitroid, and it still doesn't beat smi2 today
Including today's video, Nitroid is up to 187 days, so in four days it will be raocow's longest running LP by any definition.
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I've always been a little weirded out by the Marisa-Thwomps. What kind of noise is that for a disembodied giant head to make?
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From what I remember being told, it's some catchphrase of the yukkuri's. Which a sign in world 5 repeats - thanks to the translation I now know it means "Take it easy".

Still odd though. Then again it's yukkuri's so I'm not even gonna go there.
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I'm not sure... 'what' happened, recently, but I feel like Nitroid is really genuinely fun to actually 'play' and whatnot again. This has been the case for a few playing sessions know, and just keeps on trucking.
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In case you were confused, the bouncies above the spikes at the end aren't where you're supposed to go yet. I had that issue when I was in that stage, where what you're supposed to go for isn't what you think it is.

Soon you will be able to exit the world. As yoshicookiezeus said, you should go get some mushrooms and buy some items. And you can sweep up remaining items in previous worlds (unless you want to get all the items after the boss).

World 3 Items
  • 3-1 Cucumber
  • 3-7 Cucumber
  • 3-2 Sign
  • 3-6 Sign
World 4 Items
  • 4-5 Cucumber
  • 4-6 UFO
World 5 Items (the ones before the autoscrolling stage)
  • 5-5 Golden Cucumber (requires Jet)
  • 5-12 UFO (requires Jet)
  • 5-13 UFO (requires Jet)
  • 5-7 UFO (requires Drill)
  • 5-8 UFO (requires Drill)
  • Signs in 2,4,5,7,11,12
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raocow wrote:I'm not sure... 'what' happened, recently, but I feel like Nitroid is really genuinely fun to actually 'play' and whatnot again. This has been the case for a few playing sessions know, and just keeps on trucking.
This is because Cup and Alex are massive lying whiny babies and Secret Room 3 is actually the most fun of the three. <_<

Also it's because Secret Room 1 is a thing of the past.
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It's relevant because it's the room best suited to raoguy's preferred playstyle. I'm not surprised at all that he had no issues with it while spending a lot of time and frustration on the other two secret rooms.

The rest of that post was only intended comedic overexaggeration, though. :C
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raocow wrote:I'm not sure... 'what' happened, recently, but I feel like Nitroid is really genuinely fun to actually 'play' and whatnot again. This has been the case for a few playing sessions know, and just keeps on trucking.
yessssss

also, the feeling will stay, considering the stages until the boss

this is probably the first time we don't tell you it gets harder
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Getting hurt by hitting the very flat bottom of spikes placed in an arrangement that makes it frequent enough. How fun.
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a0n0o0m0a0l0y wrote: Soon you will be able to exit the world. As yoshicookiezeus said, you should go get some mushrooms and buy some items. And you can sweep up remaining items in previous worlds (unless you want to get all the items after the boss).

World 3 Items
  • 3-1 Cucumber
  • 3-7 Cucumber
  • 3-2 Sign
  • 3-6 Sign
World 4 Items
  • 4-5 Cucumber
  • 4-6 UFO
World 5 Items (the ones before the autoscrolling stage)
  • 5-5 Golden Cucumber (requires Jet)
  • 5-12 UFO (requires Jet)
  • 5-13 UFO (requires Jet)
  • 5-7 UFO (requires Drill)
  • 5-8 UFO (requires Drill)
  • Signs in 2,4,5,7,11,12
Is there any benefit to getting any more UFOs?
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why couldn't you activate the switches with a stinky ball, instead of jumping on them?
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I was in a jumping sort of move!

More seriously, I wanted to change my items as least possible as I could, so I could concentrate on the platforming.
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