SDM2: There may or may not be touhou involved

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AlchemistHohenheim wrote:I can understand Machinima trying to be proactive in keeping their partners "safe".

What I can't understand is the completely random selection process when it comes to which videos get made private and which ones don't.
They are secretly the biggest raocow fans and want the videos all to themselves
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is that why the only VVVVVV video is the Veni Vidi Vici one?
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Trotim wrote:chuchino, world-renowned as the creator of the popular cat planet franchise, has this to say:
that is all
Scanned that thread, I got quoted in there, anonymously, but still. ._.
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Wait, aren't they just picking random videos to see if there is actually copyright infringement? If they don't find anything, it's okay.
And I see zero possibilities of actual copyright issues, apart from that daily motion period which is uploaded on raoclassic. But because raoclassic isn't directly involved with raocow (they can't prove it at least), that's no problem.
So it may take a while. A long while. But the videos will be back up eventually.
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It would have been nice if they'd used an "Innocent until proven guilty" approach.
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So one of your videos that wasn't hidden has a big ol' Rick Astley face as the thumbnail...

Cool.
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Yeah, I have no idea what decides them to private which video.

I also don't know if every 'machinima partner' has roughly 85% of their videos privated. I think it's just crazy to private 1200-odd videos like this.

But it does sound like machinima is a good guy here? If that's so, I retract my statement of disliking them more for this.
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Well, the one dude's video I linked to had 400 of his vids hidden, that SSoHPKC dude had over 500 hidden. I'm just stunned that it's something like 1200 for raocow, if not more. There's nothing in there even close to being a problem outside of that one SMW/Rickrolled video that was blocked for most of us anyway!
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So their reaction to YouTube possibly taking down videos was to... take down the videos? So they look like the bad guy rather than YouTube? What were they reacting to anyway? Was there a statement made somewhere or are they going on a rumour?

Anyway, about today's video: Looked tough, can't wait to see what the secret exit's like :D
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Like I said in the vid, loved the one edit with the lives counter. Also, I really hope you didn't forget to savestate at the end there because I always get nervous when I don't see that prompt onscreen.
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kilon wrote:Yeah, I have no idea what decides them to private which video.

I also don't know if every 'machinima partner' has roughly 85% of their videos privated. I think it's just crazy to private 1200-odd videos like this.
I certainly know a couple that don't (SeaNanners for one), but it seems to be the majority yes.
But it does sound like machinima is a good guy here? If that's so, I retract my statement of disliking them more for this.
They certainly make it sound like that but their motives make absolutely no sense. Tons of uncategorized talk-over-an-image videos are gone, it absolutely has to be random BS.

Also, I'm not convinced that setting videos on YouTube to private does anything to prevent YouTube from doing things with them. When you do it at this scale you're bound to trigger some form of alert somewhere.
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Kewne wrote:I'm not convinced that setting videos on YouTube to private does anything to prevent YouTube from doing things with them. When you do it at this scale you're bound to trigger some form of alert somewhere.
I wonder that too. I mean, it's not like YouTube staff are casual surfers; they have access to ALL our crap. So I'm not so sure that the videos being set to Private would get in their way of accessing any and all uploads, just the same as the uploaders themselves can. Unless being a Partner affords you some kind of firewall between YouTube and yourself.

But I guess that even if there's just a chance it'd help, then it's a chance that can be taken. Just depends on risk vs reward, and raocow can be the judge of that. Bummer that this just happened to happen RIGHT after he joined.

Back to the level... that was indeed a darn strict one. But at this difficulty level, and with the Japanese expectation of eventual perfection, it's to be expected. Not so sure I'd have enjoyed it, but I respect what it's doing, and I liked the simple wireframe visuals. I'm actually REALLY looking forward for how the alternate-exit is to be played out. Looks to be a wild ride!
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If a video is private, your account can not get any strikes against it. So while it isn't allowed, they can't do much about it.
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This is to try and answer people not seeing the difference between machinima making raocow's videos privite vs youtube taking down raocow's videos due to copyright claims:

1. Copyrighted material in youtube videos isn't allowed.
2. raocow is a partner now. This means adverts are now gonna be on his videos and he can make money of them (I for one like this btw, raocow deserves it imo).

So, there is many copyrighted material on youtube and this is kinda ok as the uploaders aren't making money of it but sometimes the original owners still claim copyright and things get taken off. (but maybe it's not as frequent as you think)

but then we have the partners, if they have copyrighted material in their videos then this means they're making money off of other peoples work and this is illegal, and this means big scary legal things can happen!

if a big scary legal thing happens for one of raocow videos and somone has to pay who's gonna?
it could be youtube that has to pay, maybe machinima, or maybe even raocow himself?! dunno.

Either way machinima doesn't want any money and legal stuff to be thrown around so if they can prevent this kinda of thing from ever happening with no money loss or scary business then it's understandable that they would take this route.
and this route is machinima privatising some of raocow's videos.

There is a chance if they weren't privatised, there could have been an actual copyright claim and this would of sucked for everyone. EVERYONE. even us.
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Technically doesn't the vast majority of his videos involve copyrighted material
Just kind of seems he's screwed either way if they decide to go copyright hunting


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Hmm, I suppose if money is involved that makes this all complicated. I suppose they see it this way:

Nintendo made Super Mario World, but they get no money from this.
Pyua made the hack, but he gets no money from this.
raocow made the video, and he gets money.

Therefore it could be legally tricky.
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The thing is, there are a LOT of peeps out there who are partnered who make LPs of games that are a lot more recent.

So I guess I have comfort that if I go down, there's a lot of people going down with me~!
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You forgot the evil laughter.
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they'll never sink The Pirate Bay! ... I mean raocow.
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raocow wrote:Oh, haha~!

I... I was told a while ago that he was never a fan of me, and he was never a fan of meme, and I always felt bad, after the fact, for maybe kind of ruining the game a little bit for him :oops:
haha wow don't worry
chuchino wrote:but i auctlaly like raocow i just dont have the time to watch his videos these days and his cat planet lp ownes and so does all the wacky fanart it spawned. dang this is probably duckos fault for posting that thing on the know your meme page saying i hated everyone
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Well WAY TO TELL ME THE EXACT OPPOSITE INTERNET!!

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This may or may be related to the videos being privatised, but my computer won't turn safety mode off on YouTube, and I'm stuck with it.

And a lot of raocow's videos were blocked for safety mode. Most of the time, after a video is blocked by safety mode the day immediately after it was uploaded (At least I still can watch him if I watch him every day! :)).

However, most of his earlier videos (VIP for example) were NOT blocked, but they are privatised now, so I'm not sure.
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Yeah, I blame Ducko. Anyway.

That level... looks like a real thing. It might be harder than something you'd see in Kaizo Mario World, for the secret exit.
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I like how 90% of your deaths (at least) were (seemingly) from your own stupidity
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Oh I don't disagree with that
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