Guacamelee! 2 - lucha de apuestas: MÁSCARA CONTRA MÁSCARA

[thatguyif]

Behold, Guacamelee! 2! As deliverer of La Máscara Sagrada, I have a duty to uphold. I kind of wish he wears the mask during the LP, but beggars can't be choosers.

This game is great. It is more of Guacamelee!, which is never a bad thing. It goes a little hard on the references, but it's still a fun Metroidvania.

¡Santa Golpiza!

Playlist (if you don't want to click every link)
1 - malos tipos
2 - regreso de juan
3 - presentación de diapositivas
4 - salto escalada
5 - esqueleto gigante y el circo volador
6 - los fragmentos de cristal
7 - depredador
8 - dimensiones intercambiabilidad
9 - golpe con el pompis
10 - cabezazo
11 - descubrieron nada nuevo
12 - perlas lunares
13 - peleador callejero
14 - superando
15 - invasores alienígenas
16 - cosas más raras
17 - ejecución de pared
18 - celeste
19 - un sombrero con el tiempo
20 - paredes volar
21 - un video normal
22 - el regreso del caballero oscuro, entre otras cosas
23 - huevo
24 - fracciones de la rana
25 - viernes 13
26 - oro
27 - tres gatos
28 - comerà bien comida
29 - mundo de estupendo juan
30 - básicamente vuelo
31 - crocodilos y boleadores de fuego
32 - gallo y esqueleto
33 - ya usé mundo de estupendo juan así que no lo sé
34 - sapobatallas
35 - la leyenda de lupita

[Grounder]

man, juan always seems a bit out of breath

a beer gut shouldn't be holding him back THAT much

[raocow]

yeah like gut or not dude still has huge arms, dude is still built like a truck

[Dragon Fogel]

I enjoyed this game a lot. It gets hard at times, but there were only a couple of screens where I felt it got really egregious. Everything else was pretty learnable.

There's some real finger-dancing when you're swapping forms *and* worlds in midair, but that didn't bother me too much. The part I didn't like was the fan rooms in the bonus area. Might also have been rough patches in the DLC trials, I don't remember those very well.

Looking forward to seeing this playthrough.

I think Calaca behaves pretty much the same way he did in the original fight - he just doesn't have his color shields. There might be other nuances making it easier, but I think it's mostly just that your health is inflated and his is lower.

[helucard]

Oh I am looking forward to this

[thatguyif]

I think Calaca behaves pretty much the same way he did in the original fight - he just doesn't have his color shields. There might be other nuances making it easier, but I think it's mostly just that your health is inflated and his is lower.

His hits are definitely weaker too. The fight is intentionally adjusted so that it's very hard to lose it.

So, one comment to bring up here: The Sasha poster early on is a direct reference to Severed, the game Drinkbox made between Guacamelee 1 and 2 for console and handheld. It's another game of Mexican influence, this time built on Norteño (northern Mexico) folklore. I played it on Wii U back in the day, it was pretty decent. Still, compared to the Guacamelees or even Nobody Saves the World, it is a dark game.

[Crow]

both guacamelee games are meme-filled reference fests, you get used to it

[KobaBeach]

Would rather play this myself than watch an LP, but Juan is a cutie

I just wanted to state that fact about Juan, I'm sorry.

[strongbadman]

Would rather play this myself than watch an LP, but Juan is a cutie

I just wanted to state that fact about Juan, I'm sorry.

Well while you're here, do you prefer the toned Juan or the Juan that's let himself go after his adventure?

[KobaBeach]

Well while you're here, do you prefer the toned Juan or the Juan that's let himself go after his adventure?

*slamming the BOTH key with the strength of a thousand men*

[thatguyif]

So, the training bits have different conditions attached. All need money. Many require doing things that are specific to the trainer. In Doña Chamoya's case, it centers around getting chests. Flame Face, combos.

Thankfully, whenever you are able to unlock a new move, the game will go out of its way to let you know, because it's very easy to forget that screen.

[helucard]

So I was curious about the size difference of before and after the heart+.


It's not particularly huge. If we take the size of the increase as our measurement of "one chunk of health", it looks like the original bar was 6 chunks, and you just got a 7th chunk. Not gonna lie, I was expecting a bigger increase. But hey, more health is more health!

[raocow]

worth it if it adds up at least

[helucard]

Oh boy, after today's lava flows and red spikeballs, I can't help but wonder how much instant death is gonna play a part in this.
Thankfully, this game has very forgiving checkpointing by the looks of it.

[thatguyif]

While the hearts are small, they definitely build up over time.

So El Muñeco's chicken spam phase...I want to say it's a reference to either Cuphead's Devil fight or That One Momodora Boss. There's definitely elements to suggest either.

Starting tomorrow...

LA CONSPIRACIÓN DEL POLLO

(sorry, I had to make that joke one last time)

[EllenHouraisan]

It's funny how with the prevalence of soulslike elements in this kind of games nowadays, I keep expecting raocow to lose all his money when he dies here and it always registers as weird when he doesn't.

[kitikami]

El Muñeco is clearly the Great Gonzo.

*****

[Grounder]

Come to think of it, where's the Limbo universe goatman?

[helucard]

Probably a reference to something
But it's adorable

[Grounder]

I feel like you're misreading the other two money upgrades, rao. They're very specifically for specific circumstances, and the latter of the two really requires massive combos to ever be useful.

Probably a reference to something
But it's adorable

Unikitty.

[Rixithechao]

[Dragon Fogel]

I feel like you're misreading the other two money upgrades, rao. They're very specifically for specific circumstances, and the latter of the two really requires massive combos to ever be useful.

Those upgrades lead to huge amounts of money over time. They are absolutely worth prioritizing.

[Grounder]

I feel like you're misreading the other two money upgrades, rao. They're very specifically for specific circumstances, and the latter of the two really requires massive combos to ever be useful.

Those upgrades lead to huge amounts of money over time. They are absolutely worth prioritizing.

do you honestly see rao racking up massive combos on the regular?

[thatguyif]

Yeah, Unikitty is in the piñata emporium. And while I played this before, I didn't remember seeing Tom Servo in there, but he's there. Also, Viva Piñata is referenced, for sure.

do you honestly see rao racking up massive combos on the regular?

Before you make such broad strokes, it's worth noting: Flame Face has a skill upgrade where your combo meter resets after 3 hits instead of one. This makes it rather easy for even someone like raocow to rack up massive combos. There are also challenges later in the game that kind of hinge on you having this skill upgrade. Flame Face's whole skill tree is all about racking up big combos and reaping the rewards from them, even for people who have trouble dodging and avoiding hits.

[11clock]

Ah, Guacamelee 2, the sequel to one of my favorite games of all time. Since it’s pretty much more of the same, I usually group it with the original game in discussions. Perfect mix of platforming, combat, and really-stupid-yet-hilarious gags.