Ugh, King Charles's Castle is kind of a mess. This level really should have been polished more before release. I know jank is a big part of ASMT, but a level like this should be made sure to leave a good impression, due to being the climactic level and the level people will pay the most attention to. The bugs in the Heavy Thwomp fight aren't even fun jank, they're just plain bad. I'm disappointed the level turned out this way, since it had a lot of potential.
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 19:09
by KobaBeach
Nesera wrote: ↑1 year ago
Ugh, King Charles's Castle is kind of a mess. This level really should have been polished more before release. I know jank is a big part of ASMT, but a level like this should be made sure to leave a good impression, due to being the climactic level and the level people will pay the most attention to. The bugs in the Heavy Thwomp fight aren't even jank, that is just bad design. I'm disappointed the level turned out this way, since it had a lot of potential.
this is 2009 era romhacking bad design is the name of the game boyee
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 19:36
by Leet
Nesera wrote: ↑1 year ago
The bugs in the Heavy Thwomp fight aren't even jank, that is just bad design.
KobaBeach wrote: ↑1 year agoi don't know why im so angry at this i need to take a chill pill
no you're right. that comment straight up sucks. it reads like a weirdo who's held some sort of weird smwcentral/talkhaus grudge for a decade
It seems to be bait, I sent them an essay about my opinion and they were like "im not gonna read your wall of text i've got stuff to do".
i tried to reply by baiting them with the ol' "i'm fucking your dad" technique but it seems that youtube's filter got it both times and didn't let me meme on him, a shame
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 21:17
by ano0maly
When I played the hack some time after watching the original LP, and got to King Charles's Castle, I just dropped the pretense of treating it as a toolless level (not that I didn't have any savestate usage before that point). It just makes more sense when you don't try to treat it as long marathons. The castle is reminding me of the SMWC 9th door contest, where short bursts of level design got higher scores than levels that dragged on longer, even if they would've been considered better in some other contexts.
In the last room today with the capes, I personally like how some parts are designed around simple gliding mechanics instead of flight.
KobaBeach wrote: ↑1 year agoi don't know why im so angry at this i need to take a chill pill
no you're right. that comment straight up sucks. it reads like a weirdo who's held some sort of weird smwcentral/talkhaus grudge for a decade
It seems to be bait, I sent them an essay about my opinion and they were like "im not gonna read your wall of text i've got stuff to do".
i tried to reply by baiting them with the ol' "i'm fucking your dad" technique but it seems that youtube's filter got it both times and didn't let me meme on him, a shame
I agreed with him at first that the hack had a lot of problems and needed more polishing, but he seemed WAY too mad about it. Like you said, either it's bait or he has a grudge.
KobaBeach wrote: ↑1 year agoi don't know why im so angry at this i need to take a chill pill
no you're right. that comment straight up sucks. it reads like a weirdo who's held some sort of weird smwcentral/talkhaus grudge for a decade
It seems to be bait, I sent them an essay about my opinion and they were like "im not gonna read your wall of text i've got stuff to do".
i tried to reply by baiting them with the ol' "i'm fucking your dad" technique but it seems that youtube's filter got it both times and didn't let me meme on him, a shame
KobaBeach wrote: ↑1 year agoi don't know why im so angry at this i need to take a chill pill
no you're right. that comment straight up sucks. it reads like a weirdo who's held some sort of weird smwcentral/talkhaus grudge for a decade
It seems to be bait, I sent them an essay about my opinion and they were like "im not gonna read your wall of text i've got stuff to do".
i tried to reply by baiting them with the ol' "i'm fucking your dad" technique but it seems that youtube's filter got it both times and didn't let me meme on him, a shame
shoulda dropped the "bababooey" ngl
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 11:55
by Kilgamayan
I don't know who Zaquaa is but that segment made me want to punch them in the kidney
(not actually, but whoof did that ever look unfun)
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 12:45
by LunarRainbowShyGuy
I was considering taking the upper left door in the second set of rooms at one point, since the first two rooms weren't too bad, but once I got far enough in the last room to see the thwimps I quickly gave up on that idea.
One thing I sometimes like to do when I'm playing something really difficult in a 2D platformer is to visualize the areas of danger created by the enemies to see where I can go without being in immediate danger. Here's a rough drawing of what that looks like for the first area with thwomps and thwimps.
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As you can probably see, you aren't really safe anywhere. While there is the method raocow figured out of just briskly walking under everything, I think my mind would be too on edge from fear of having to go through the two other rooms again to think of that, which would be why I gave up on this path when I saw that part for the first time. And it's not like the rest of the room after that is smooth sailing either, which is all the more reason to not bother with it.
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 15:55
by Crow
HELL TEMPLE IS HELL
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 16:16
by KobaBeach
this is deathtemple in hell your gonna die bich
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 16:32
by Nesera
I really don't think that hell room should've been let into the final version of KCC. The difficulty, as raocow said, is way out of place. Most of the rooms are just difficult, Zaquaa's Hell is basically Kaizo.
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 17:28
by KobaBeach
I was reading the old ASMT level submission thread and
yoshicookiezeus wrote:@Norpser and Nubnibx3: I am sorry, but both of your levels seem to be a bit below our standards. Norpser, your level is simply too repetitive, and Nubnibx, that castle seems almost Kaizo-ish in its difficulty level, as well as having quite a bit of graphical issues. As mentioned innumerable times, raocow will be playing through this thing without emulator tools.
Daarkbuu wrote:No offense, but that level looks kind of ...bleh. Do you have experience with lunar magic prior to this collab? Like have you ever made a hack of your own? Ultimately though, it's mister yoshicookiezeus' decision.
BlackDS wrote:Oh hey, are we allowed to use swear words? My level will be titled GHOSTS ARE BITCHES! I just wanted to know if this was OK.
AnimeRules wrote:I don't think we should use swear words if we want this to make it to SMWC. Besides, I don't think swear words fit in a Mario game/hack.
this is just the 2000s western hacking sphere in a nutshell
BlackDS wrote:Oh hey, are we allowed to use swear words? My level will be titled GHOSTS ARE BITCHES! I just wanted to know if this was OK.
i can't believe they banned black ds for this brilliance
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 18:16
by Ashan
That last set of 3 rooms is just an odd choice. If I was in charge of taking the levels and assembling them into paths, I think I'd take the hell room and put it at the beginning of a path, and follow it with like, the easiest rooms possible as a reward for players who did the most obviously hard level. As it stands, I can't imagine why anyone would take this path
BlackDS wrote:Oh hey, are we allowed to use swear words? My level will be titled GHOSTS ARE BITCHES! I just wanted to know if this was OK.
i can't believe they banned black ds for this brilliance
brb going to make an "asmt snyder cut" to release on april fools where nothing is changed except blackds's ghost house is titled "GHOSTS ARE BITCHES!".
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 18:29
by Leet
they should have kept GHOSTS ARE BITCHES! that's great
i can't believe they banned black ds for this brilliance
brb going to make an "asmt snyder cut" to release on april fools where nothing is changed except blackds's ghost house is titled "GHOSTS ARE BITCHES!".
And adding the power off block that crashes the game.
Re: ASMT 11th Anniversary LP - Hey There Guy
Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 18:42
by Crow
Ashan wrote: ↑1 year ago
That last set of 3 rooms is just an odd choice. If I was in charge of taking the levels and assembling them into paths, I think I'd take the hell room and put it at the beginning of a path, and follow it with like, the easiest rooms possible as a reward for players who did the most obviously hard level. As it stands, I can't imagine why anyone would take this path
i have to wonder if anyone has ever beaten the level taking the tails level path + this path without savestates
like imagine dying in HELL and having to redo five other entire levels just to get another shot at it
Ashan wrote: ↑1 year ago
That last set of 3 rooms is just an odd choice. If I was in charge of taking the levels and assembling them into paths, I think I'd take the hell room and put it at the beginning of a path, and follow it with like, the easiest rooms possible as a reward for players who did the most obviously hard level. As it stands, I can't imagine why anyone would take this path
i have to wonder if anyone has ever beaten the level taking the tails level path + this path without savestates
like imagine dying in HELL and having to redo five other entire levels just to get another shot at it
I really can't understand why the level was organized this way. The paths consist of either two rooms or three rooms, yet Hell gets assigned to a three room path? Huh?
i can't believe they banned black ds for this brilliance
brb going to make an "asmt snyder cut" to release on april fools where nothing is changed except blackds's ghost house is titled "GHOSTS ARE BITCHES!".
And adding the power off block that crashes the game.