La-Mulana 2 - fish. it is a fish. it's true.
- PSI Ninja
- Posts: 402
- Joined: 7 years ago
- https://psininja.talkhaus.com/
Re: La-Mulana 2 - what did i understand
About half the video was spent in the same room, haha. It's unfortunate that such an elaborate puzzle can be brute-forced, but that's the fault of the game designers. It probably should have been designed using multiple mantras per turn instead of a single mantra per turn, perhaps combined with something like instadeath or high damage punishments to deter guessing.
Re: La-Mulana 2 - what did i understand
Why don't you eat me?
I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!



I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!



- SAJewers
- ASMBXT Level Wrangler/A2XT Project Coordinator /AAT Level Designer
- Posts: 3920
- Joined: 10 years ago
- Location: Nova Scotia
Re: La-Mulana 2 - what did i understand
possible context to 36.5
(another server = "just a personal friends server")
edit: also
(another server = "just a personal friends server")
edit: also
Last edited by SAJewers 2 years ago, edited 4 times in total.
- Bluster Kerfuffle
- Master of Windy Import
- Posts: 51
- Joined: 5 years ago
- Pronouns: he/him/his
- Location: Brazil
Re: La-Mulana 2 - what did i understand
really 
Why don't you eat me?
I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!



I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!



- repairmanman
- Posts: 119
- Joined: 11 years ago
Re: La-Mulana 2 - what did i understand
I spoke too soon he brute forced the other one
At least he saw the solution
At least he saw the solution
Nothing to see here
- Advent Azure
- Cursed Background Character
- Posts: 9
- Joined: 8 years ago
- First name: Dr. Borg
- Location: West side of Eastmen
- Contact:
Re: La-Mulana 2 - oh

Accidentally edited previous post. woops.
- raocow
- the death of the incredible huge
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: 13 years ago
- Location: maybe the Wizards are the most complex, and the sales guys are up their daily
- https://raocow.talkhaus.com/
Re: La-Mulana 2 - oh
so I just found another top something video game music
the chillaxest of dragons





Re: La-Mulana 2 - oh
Yeah 'Insane Sun' is pretty dang good (just casually assuming you went for the boss you just unlocked)
fart.
Re: La-Mulana 2 - oh
Well that was painful to watch. raocow, if even you are saying it feels bad, why don't you stop trying to brute force it and figure out the proper solution instead? You really gotta work on your tunnel vision when it comes to puzzles in games.
- repairmanman
- Posts: 119
- Joined: 11 years ago
Re: La-Mulana 2 - oh
One of the worst puzzles I ever brute forced was in a game with a 4 number combination lock.
I just sat there and tried combinations, and when I apparently found the right one, it turned out that was the final puzzle and I beat the game.
This is why I have a love hate relationship with flash games.
I just sat there and tried combinations, and when I apparently found the right one, it turned out that was the final puzzle and I beat the game.
This is why I have a love hate relationship with flash games.
Nothing to see here
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
Maybe puzzle games could have a message popup after enough time has passed saying "Hey are you brute forcing this? How about you try something else"
- repairmanman
- Posts: 119
- Joined: 11 years ago
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
Voltgloss' impeccable note taking being ignored by raocow is my real takeaway from this ep.
Nothing to see here
- raocow
- the death of the incredible huge
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: 13 years ago
- Location: maybe the Wizards are the most complex, and the sales guys are up their daily
- https://raocow.talkhaus.com/
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
what no way I rely on it all the time :(
the chillaxest of dragons





- repairmanman
- Posts: 119
- Joined: 11 years ago
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
I'm sorry, that's my bad, he didn't actually take screenshots of the waffles. I got him mixed up with the wiki.
Spoilers for lore surrounding Ra:
Spoilers for lore surrounding Ra:
Nothing to see here
- Crow
- famous knife crow thumbnail responsibility holder
- Posts: 3298
- Joined: 8 years ago
- First name: Crow
- Pronouns: she/they/it/he
- Location: chaos garden
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
Instadeath trap count: 44 (+3 today)
puzzles!!! bosses!!!! delight!!!!!!
i do think this boss is a bit easier than most other bosses in this game, only like fafnir and v1 kujata are easier imo
puzzles!!! bosses!!!! delight!!!!!!
i do think this boss is a bit easier than most other bosses in this game, only like fafnir and v1 kujata are easier imo
i've honestly never played a video game in my life






- Voltgloss
- Ask, and you shall be given. Think, and you shall find.
- Posts: 1146
- Joined: 9 years ago
- Pronouns: he/him/his
- Location: exploring the world, now with friends
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
Frankly I struggled over whether to take screenshots of the waffles. Both because I was worried it could be too much of a tell as to their importance, and because one of the key related hints - the name of the rooms in which they appear - wouldn't be captured that way (and it's a hint you're only going to get if you actively *go back* to their locations to look at them, as raocow did in yesterday's supplemental video). I eventually decided to just mark their locations on the maps for ease of revisiting. I'd have certainly screenshotted them if requested, but raocow did fine without. :)
Edit: Better than fine actually. Today was some top-tier observation, reasoning, and educated guesswork to fill in the gaps.
Edit: Better than fine actually. Today was some top-tier observation, reasoning, and educated guesswork to fill in the gaps.



- raocow
- the death of the incredible huge
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: 13 years ago
- Location: maybe the Wizards are the most complex, and the sales guys are up their daily
- https://raocow.talkhaus.com/
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
someguy is having youtube problems so I'm posting his message here so he can try and repost it
SomeGuy712x
Received one of the highest numbers of hearts from you
Publicly subscribed to you (10 years)
• 14 minutes ago
(4:46) Who wants another helping of pancakes?
(10:41, 10:46) If 2-1 is the second tablet on the top row, then wouldn't 1-3 be the first tablet on the third row? Or, should 2-1 be the first tablet on the second row?
(11:12) Welp, that combination is incorrect. I wonder if you mixed up either 2-1 or 1-3...
(11:42) And, that was wrong too, resulting in your death since the red judgment zap deals 88 damage, and you had only 83 HP.
(14:14) Yep, you mixed up 2-1, which you meant 1-2 for.
(The 8x4 grid and all these numbers keep making me think of Super Mario Bros. 35.)
(15:38) Yeah, us humans aren't perfect, and we make mistakes.
(17:26) Oh, this combination was correct! Nicely done!
(17:52) Wow, I was expecting up to two separate helpings of pancakes here, but you dodged both of them! I'm really surprised the second one didn't squish you, even though it looked like it did hit you!
(19:06) Alright, it's boss time, vs. Aten-Ra!
(19:48) Rolling ball = 16 damage.
(19:52) Collision with that giant mass = 8 damage. (Probably pancake death if it lands directly on top of you.)
(19:57) Collision with the boss's body = 31 damage.
(20:10) Arm thingy = 8 damage.
(20:15) Laser = 22 damage.
(20:56) Bird = 7 damage.
(21:00) Dung beetle = 7 damage.
(21:37) Aw, I was holding out hope that you'd win on the first try.
(21:52) Boss collision that time = 62 damage. Must've been a double-hit somehow.
(22:01) Wow, that enemy telefragged you or something.
(22:22) Flamethrower = at least 26 damage.
(22:35) Start of the winning run.
(23:55) Flamethrower = 37 damage.
(24:58) Victory! Aten-Ra slain!
(25:55) Crucifix get!
SomeGuy712x
Received one of the highest numbers of hearts from you
Publicly subscribed to you (10 years)
• 14 minutes ago
(4:46) Who wants another helping of pancakes?
(10:41, 10:46) If 2-1 is the second tablet on the top row, then wouldn't 1-3 be the first tablet on the third row? Or, should 2-1 be the first tablet on the second row?
(11:12) Welp, that combination is incorrect. I wonder if you mixed up either 2-1 or 1-3...
(11:42) And, that was wrong too, resulting in your death since the red judgment zap deals 88 damage, and you had only 83 HP.
(14:14) Yep, you mixed up 2-1, which you meant 1-2 for.
(The 8x4 grid and all these numbers keep making me think of Super Mario Bros. 35.)
(15:38) Yeah, us humans aren't perfect, and we make mistakes.
(17:26) Oh, this combination was correct! Nicely done!
(17:52) Wow, I was expecting up to two separate helpings of pancakes here, but you dodged both of them! I'm really surprised the second one didn't squish you, even though it looked like it did hit you!
(19:06) Alright, it's boss time, vs. Aten-Ra!
(19:48) Rolling ball = 16 damage.
(19:52) Collision with that giant mass = 8 damage. (Probably pancake death if it lands directly on top of you.)
(19:57) Collision with the boss's body = 31 damage.
(20:10) Arm thingy = 8 damage.
(20:15) Laser = 22 damage.
(20:56) Bird = 7 damage.
(21:00) Dung beetle = 7 damage.
(21:37) Aw, I was holding out hope that you'd win on the first try.
(21:52) Boss collision that time = 62 damage. Must've been a double-hit somehow.
(22:01) Wow, that enemy telefragged you or something.
(22:22) Flamethrower = at least 26 damage.
(22:35) Start of the winning run.
(23:55) Flamethrower = 37 damage.
(24:58) Victory! Aten-Ra slain!
(25:55) Crucifix get!
the chillaxest of dragons





- Draexzhan
- Flair text
- Posts: 208
- Joined: 7 years ago
- First name: Nathan
- Pronouns: he/him/his
- Location: Undertale
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
Aten-Ra is such a cool boss. Got the disco rave music, got a really flashy design, got the buildup....
and iirc he's the only guardian in either game who actually creates life mid battle. I know a couple minibosses can do that, but their spawns are generally just babies or whatever. In a sense, he came the closest to replicating the Mother's power out of anyone.
It's a damn shame he's such a comparatively weak boss. Even in hard mode he doesn't put up much of a fight and in normal mode he's kind of a joke.Signature text.
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
I think you did fine. I'm surprised why raocow was like, "Oh man I better go google to double check what these things look like, despite having this helpful guy and a recording showing them all."
Mr.Google has no filter and will spoil every death in Game of Ice and Fire. He'll turn all of your milk sour, He'll put stupid air-foils on the back of your car. Dude just spoils everything.
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
When I played for the first time, I never made the connection that the "spike" symbol was the hint to figuring out the pyramid. Instead, there's a small image of a mantra summon on that same tablet, and so I took it upon myself to figure out what the mantra configuration was to make it look like the image on the tablet, then tried that. Still worked! But I like the proper solution better.
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
could birdface be cheesed with flares, or is the explosion out of his hitbox range?
Why don't you eat me?
I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!



I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!



- Voltgloss
- Ask, and you shall be given. Think, and you shall find.
- Posts: 1146
- Joined: 9 years ago
- Pronouns: he/him/his
- Location: exploring the world, now with friends
Re: La-Mulana 2 - hey there captain hands
You can't hurt him while he's up "inside" the sun because attacks (including flares) just dink off of the sun's own hitbox. Once he comes down, flares work like everything else to deal him damage. Slower going than the Axe though, but could be a reasonable option I suppose if you come to the fight without it.








