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Good news: I looked into Nigoro after you said they were exiting the games industry, and found an article from only a couple weeks ago where they announced at an expo they're starting work on a new game that's "science-fiction horror" oriented and decidedly not like La-Mulana. So Nigoro lives! However, I think it's safe to say this is likely the end of the tale of La-Mulana, which honestly I'm happy for. Other than exploring the origins of the Mother (which honestly I prefer being kept vague) it feels like there isn't really anywhere else the series could go, and this is the perfect place to end.

In any case, excellent job on an excellent LP. It was fun to see you breeze through things that I was stuck on for hours while also getting inordinately stuck on things I didn't think twice over. Looking forward to [Mystery Box].
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repairmanman wrote: 3 years ago Edit: It has to be from an update after 1.7.7.1, because I can't break the glass tube on mine.
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And so Bonladay or whatever it was called on La-Mulana's intro map was never relevant to anything.

THE END
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man I love this game. I just, love it
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Donut wrote: 3 years ago Good news: I looked into Nigoro after you said they were exiting the games industry, and found an article from only a couple weeks ago where they announced at an expo they're starting work on a new game that's "science-fiction horror" oriented and decidedly not like La-Mulana. So Nigoro lives! However, I think it's safe to say this is likely the end of the tale of La-Mulana, which honestly I'm happy for. Other than exploring the origins of the Mother (which honestly I prefer being kept vague) it feels like this is the perfect place to end the series.
Oh phew! The La Mulanas are among my favorite games of all time (especially the soundtracks, hot damn!) so hearing that the devs might be leaving the game industry was heartbreaking. I can respect the decision to be done with La-Mulana, though. Would've liked Tower of Oannes but I'm plenty happy with what we got.
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Just to confirm what was said above, I don't think Naramura/Nigoro have said anything about getting out of games, and they're still actively supporting LM2 and releasing LM series stuff (soundtracks and whatnot). Not really sure where raocow got that information from... while neither LM game was a massive commercial success, I think the team is satisfied with what they accomplished with them, as they well should be.

Naramura has been tweeting some videos of their new game, MEDIUM-NAUT, even; it's made in Action Game Maker MV and seems to have extremely good jumping.
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Oh yeah also let's pour one out for Freya and

the Spaulder, which was the one item raocow didn't get. In both games.



Also, I don't know what all raocow has been told to do in the bonus episode, but I would like to suggest whipping Xelpud's statue on the head a whole bunch (you'll know when it's been whipped enough) then going to see him. Also visit Nebur like 40 times.
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moogy wrote: Naramura has been tweeting some videos of their new game, MEDIUM-NAUT, even; it's made in Action Game Maker MV and seems to have extremely good jumping.
My reaction was basically "Medium-Naut, huh? Seems like a strange name for what looks to be setting up as a run and gun game, like... the '-naut' bit I get, but what does Medium mean? Is it like a half baked take on 'Hardcore' or something?"
Then I went looking, and saw a clearer image of who our protagonist is...
https://twitter.com/naramura/status/1328253369396338689
"Oh, that's not a gun, it's a crystal ball- MEDIUM! OOOKAAAYYY!!"
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helucard wrote: 3 years ago
moogy wrote: Naramura has been tweeting some videos of their new game, MEDIUM-NAUT, even; it's made in Action Game Maker MV and seems to have extremely good jumping.
My reaction was basically "Medium-Naut, huh? Seems like a strange name for what looks to be setting up as a run and gun game, like... the '-naut' bit I get, but what does Medium mean? Is it like a half baked take on 'Hardcore' or something?"
Then I went looking, and saw a clearer image of who our protagonist is...
https://twitter.com/naramura/status/1328253369396338689
"Oh, that's not a gun, it's a crystal ball- MEDIUM! OOOKAAAYYY!!"
Yeah, his explanation of the title is that it's basically medium (in the spiritual sense) + astronaut.
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Urd: the real final boss of La-Mulana 2.

It turns out that there's really not much to the escape if you know what you're doing. I'm a little surprised that Nigoro made the decision not to add a time limit to the escape sequence like the first game, which would have added a lot more tension. But it was probably removed because they gave the player the ability to hard save, and they wanted the player to explore the crumbling ruins to find those extra bits.

A stupid thing that can happen when you defeat Verdandi and Urd is that their glossary ROMs can fall into the pit, forcing you to reload and beat them again. Because I did this all at once instead of a separate play session, it messed up the flow of the escape. And since these were the last two glossary entries I needed, I got the "Encyclopedia Completionist" achievement, but a weird thing happened where I also got Jormungand's glossary entry again:

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Anyway, I'm sad that this series has come to an end. This was one of the few LPs where I specifically made time to tune in shortly after the video was posted, something I can't really do anymore. I cared a lot about this game, and seeing my favorite LPer play it blind felt akin to experiencing the game for the first time again.
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The only bad part about there almost certainly not being a La-Mulana 3 is that there really are no other games like this series. I love it so much.
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Is it possible to leave through the main entrance in Roots of Yggdrasil during the escape sequence, or do you have to use the precipice?
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I understand the cool kids leave by means of poison magma.
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Congrats on clearing the game (on hard even) and nice work from voltgloss on the amazing notetaking.
Is it possible to leave through the main entrance in Roots of Yggdrasil during the escape sequence, or do you have to use the precipice

Exit door is covered by rocks so you cant get out. Pretty sure all ways into hades are also caved in so you cant be clever and escape via a false gate either.

also, disappointing as it is, even if you use the timestop, you cant end up saving freya's brother. Also I went to check the guy in the immortal battlefield who's sealed because his device is described as powered by the ruins, but that thing is still running even during the escape so rip that guy and the 3 goddesses, they get to be free just in time to have the whole building cave in on them.

Honestly, the whole escape sequence feels kinda tacked on. two optional fights that arent very complex, just there to make you work for your 100% glossary
FPzero wrote: 3 years ago The only bad part about there almost certainly not being a La-Mulana 3 is that there really are no other games like this series. I love it so much.
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the final glossary entry, for those who reached the end

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Not your finest work, but it'll do :catplanet:
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Chirei wrote: 3 years ago the final glossary entry, for those who reached the end

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 2/last.png
I have the fonts the game uses if you're interested in upgrading it further.

Actually heck it, here they are for anyone interested: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FyLIDp ... mLsWD3N_o/
And here's which font is which on the glossary page:
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the real la-mulana ends here

well, aside from the silly slapfight flash game, anyway
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La mulana 2 lp: now featuring duker from the comments section & voltgloss

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the real la-mulana randomizer starts here!
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It's been an absolute pleasure accompanying raocow and everyone on the journey through both the original La-Mulana and this sequel. Thanks for play, and thanks for watch.

The gimmick for thread titles was

"things said by raocow while playing the original La-Mulana," to reflect and homage moments of foreshadowing and prescience during his playthrough of the first game - and to gently rib the sequel for those elements that hew rather closely to the first game.



To prepare a list of potential thread titles, I

re-watched the entire LM1 playthrough and took notes of a host of options

. A list of potential titles I wound up not using are in the below spoiler space.
  • that bird is the speed of sound
  • honestly got a bit of the shivers
  • sweet colonnades
  • using my face and maybe a pun
  • bats are meanies they will eat your wheaties
  • the court of the snake
  • more like twin-headed mistake
  • like these are the worst short stories
  • the booger police coming out in drought
  • the body of child 0
  • skeleton mode (opposite of robot mode)
  • shot in the FACE
  • so all the traps are like a trial of some sort
  • learning with xelpud today
  • domino strasa the lion-horse
  • also alphonso the bear
  • here i am inside the universe hi mr. the bat
  • i found out the mixture of man
  • it's gonna be a viral sensation
  • dude, just cut him right in the nose
  • dang weight tax
  • autobot, tune out
  • nibiru - that's just a very specific planet
  • what do you mean mr. block
  • everyone wants to beat my face
  • fish. it is a fish. it's true.
  • the MEDALLIONS! oh SHOOT!
  • i wanna end but i can't stop playing
  • this affected the thing in the place
  • that's exactly what i did yesterday
  • sweet whip there move there move
  • there's my new money sink let's go
  • gonna win him over with my killer mirth
  • it's not there
  • FAIRIES, YO
  • oh boy ice is great
  • this seems like a bad old place to BE
  • i'm gonna shank a wizard
  • sorry for the eyeball loss
  • welcome to the gourd-filled-up zone
  • this is expensive so it's probably good, right?
  • welcome to future zone by the way
  • these ice physics are extreme
  • wait it's not real?
  • this feels like super lots of jank
  • i'm inside the mother right now
  • just after i said that i was going to be careful
  • i'mma buy it
  • through the precipice of death
  • blow me up or maybe don't
  • i got a hat and a big red glove
  • let me imitate a gopher in heat
  • i'm using strategy here to complete the mission
  • weight tax, murder tax
  • but there's a lot of guys that are a lot in the way
  • i'm out of folgers at this point
  • aw shoot i missed it dang it!
  • the world of kumquat zone city town liquid ball fire zone plant chinchillada express
  • if i was making la-mulana i'd have hidden something there
  • whatever skeleton, go eat a ham, you need it
  • you're having a ghost of a time
  • original poseidon do not steal
  • um... repeating my question, what's this?
  • there's no beating traffic
  • adam and eve and lilith and satan and, i dunno, the pig
  • there's the trap that everyone loves
  • sakuya look you're really threatening with your two swords there and i appreciate it
  • the graveyard of the dead
  • i'm getting distracted but i am playing la-mulana right now
  • check out that mouth he's going all like AHHHHH
  • i was hurt very bad so never mind
  • jesus hell what happened here
  • there's gonnea be a thing somewhere that heats up this area
  • this is a bit of an anticlimax not gonna lie
  • a fool and his money get you some money
  • hey la-munana heads it's time to videogame
  • at the mope mage
  • you can't make fun of this place
  • it is exactly as ridiculous as you think it's going to be
  • press down and press read everywhere
  • the sage beyond the age of me's and you
  • i don't know if laws apply if you're dead
  • i appreciate your unabashed love for what you do
  • ancient mexican pepper
  • pepper time, boy!
  • this place is mean but at the same time it's nice
  • down read nothing
  • a cool spot for cool people
  • not anymore jumbo the clown
  • the transatlantic transport gate
  • well that was a short voyage
  • there's a demon with a weapon of some kind
  • look i know it was going to fall eventually
  • this is raocow playing everyone
  • let's go inside the realm of the infinite
  • mulbruk i'm confused solve the puzzle for me
  • there's the moon right there, it's the sun, basically the same thing
  • it fits in your pocket
  • horse is giant, nothing to be afraid of
  • twin twin zone twin five thousand mercury face
  • over there is new brunswick
  • i'm not short on money i'm short on patience
  • is it poison heeeere... yes it is
  • the statue of lagomorph and his son
  • we're in poison town poison country
  • i've unlocked even more of this stupid labyrinth
  • lots of blocks being broken here
  • the good side of tournament art
  • you've got a sentai form, weird
  • oh shoot i can still die? fantabulous
  • baphomet you're literally some kind of devil
  • pretend real hard for the sake of the kids
  • the loneliest block in the world
  • can't read about snakes not even here for real
  • let's go somewhere we don't understand
  • we're like in weird space
  • that guy just did a jump kick
  • having a good old skull party
  • skull zone skull farm
  • they're like dead angels, that's weird
  • give baphomet a wedgie, let's go
  • there's a wing-ed horse
  • i don't like you or your parmesan cheese
  • that's a lot of damage
  • at some point he becomes electric
  • welcome to the world of chuck e. cheese
  • super great getting-out-of-water physics
  • money from places i don't understand
  • don't got the means to translate your reality
  • this place is like falling apart
  • running free into the world of lethargy
  • just a big old place of emptiness
  • when did this become a family story
  • like a wrestling show or something
  • sounds like madness and nonsense
  • scaffolding are there for realism
  • from here i's going to split into twine
  • big shield, big crust
  • this is like the opposite of help mulbruk
  • OH NO WAIT I REMEMBER THIS NOW
  • this is going to be pretty good
  • oh my god xelpud why are you so superhumanly amazing
  • ugh there's my stupid dad's stupid diary
  • you are an invincible old man
  • yo cursed chest a'ight cursed face
  • let's talk to xelpud with my creepy skull
  • SKULL TIME
  • one foot forward, one foot back
  • so i looked at my notes
  • it is meaningful to read the murals and whatnot
  • that's anunannanunanni, so to his back?
  • go ahead and destroy the laws of icleudian physics
  • this doesn't make any sense!
  • a big old bunch of mustard on his nose
  • what the hell is this??
  • i pressed DOWN to put a WEIGHT
  • crazy space tanks turret
  • get on that navel and let's get out that skull
  • very rapid ghost ladder there
  • what is up with the insane momentum
  • now we got a bull with wings, what a ridiculous animal
  • wait you can't warp out?
  • slice slice slice, here comes the sun
  • not the hardest dude in the butcher shop
  • her arena could have been a bit better thought of
  • old squirrel-lion-face guy
  • the sun falls and squooshes lemeza so i'm being careful
  • brahma, hmmm, he's the god of creation
  • need to collect your blue skulls (truths and otherwise)
  • you're having fun, are you one of the giants?
  • crush this wall and there's a big old energy cage
  • never let me say anything ever again
  • crush the hand something something marzipan
  • there's a whole comedy crew down there
  • oh boy more dead guys
  • ice physics in this game is a real nightmare
  • like a crazy heat ray up there
  • we're trying to make the most obnoxious room possible
  • laser down and laser stall, shower curtains over all
  • that background column is being secret ladder all this time
  • around the world and forget about our sardines
  • oh boy what a terrible arena though
  • i wanted to end with some kind of bang
  • finally a freaking bomb
  • temple lab double zone
  • ...you need to buy it
  • hi giant sawblade that reduced my health to 1
  • giant knife warning, watch out
  • that's rude but i appreciate the feedback
  • even the game paused because it was like "dude"
  • like you can chuck something through it
  • great hint mulbruk you're the best
  • the philosophers (i'm sure he's full of mud)
  • i'm being owl stuck here
  • can't stand that arm
  • big old screaming face i don't care about how much mustard you put in your lake
  • oh that's a giant mud zone
  • sorry citizen elephant
  • why did that make the eye angry
  • another nasty skull in the other one
  • follow the very very faint crumb trail
  • expess laser ladder to somewhere
  • here we got ourselves some layer 2 smashers
  • grow large and precious lemeza
  • mulbruk please talk to me about death
  • i love this game but it does not want to be loved
  • easier faster stronger smarter better friendlier
  • all RIGHT! i don't know what that MEANS!
  • good bull good boy
  • it's like a male ariel here, maybe that's on purpose
  • super garbage (the kind you buy at the super store)
  • it's nice to be back home (that's not true at all)
  • moving with the grace of a seagull or five
  • hi knightmare how's it going
  • oh geez a big old worm
  • i also would not want to be a bullet
  • look at this guy cleaning house
  • stupid bat, you're stupid, also a bat
  • trade secret is: you're dead
  • i'm going to cut you up into limber town
  • oh i love the face of your suffering i'm gonna frame it on my wall
  • i got so much money it's kinda gross (and i like it that way)
  • can i adopt him
  • pocket maCHINE! it's the pocket machine!
  • oh xelpud your wisdom belies your senility
  • i'm making the images overlap but game don't care
  • so what... the HELL is this nightmare
  • i did it i just needed to complain
  • i know it's subtle but you're not a bear
  • where the squirrel lion hangs out
  • it's full of life now that i'm ending
  • freakin' hell butt fart zone
  • i hate the universe
  • i did something! ... but what?
  • computer is not turned on it will never turn on no one likes computer oh that's a shame
  • strange hole? CHECK IT
  • don't be hasty
  • dude looks like a xenomorph
  • wonder if i should get myself a violence fairy
  • look at that awesome eclipse in the background
  • oh jeez that ram attack
  • wait he exploded and i'm at zero!
  • just a big emptiness now
  • ambiguous hitboxes is the power of the large midbosses
  • well that was an encounter
  • activate, robo, activate
  • i got myself link's clothes
  • mini-boss power hour
  • i love avoiding bats
  • i can just warp to eden it's very boring
  • look at that. look at that beautiful rug.
  • one day computer-chan. one day.
  • oh jesus hell it's a beautiful sphinx monster
  • welcome to the infinite galaxy
  • wow! it's clock time!
  • she's getting ultraviolent here, i respect that
  • when do i ever learn any lesson any time
  • i did it, i used it twice
  • look at this helpful little robo
  • swing my chain like some kind of mime
  • welcome to france 1799
  • are we seriously having yoku blocks
  • swinging from side to side watch out paisanos do the mario
  • there's DNA and there's me getting away
  • now i can mantra
  • let's talk to old man xylophone
  • i got a microphone here yeah sing it
  • was thus just like timing or
  • i have no sense of right or wrong here
  • and yes i definitely do want to do hell temple
  • i like how there's no finesse at all i just run around
  • abuto, more like a-butt-o, that's right, going there
  • celebrate by opening the gates to hell
  • destroying the world at the sound of peace and quiet
  • it was me all along
  • the cemetery of snagglerock
  • hidden behind a veneer of complete nonsense
  • of course the worst enemies would be represented here
  • don't be afraid (but do be afraid)
  • gotta play the e-music, maybe
  • easy as clam pie
  • did i accidentally stumble on this terrible new universe
  • that's the name of that abcd: trademark
  • i did it! i cowered in the corner!
  • now that's what i call
  • i mean as far as i'm concerned this was worth it
  • and uh you're going to andross me
  • you deserve death, i don't know why
  • look at that you can see your entire leg
  • like are you a hivemind
  • big old face i don't know how
  • i can absorb the big old oranges
  • taboo huh? you're the boss?
  • is it rude to shoot mom
  • there's a fetus up there, it's kinda - oh wait is that the 9th Child?
  • just casually the secret treasure of life
  • ok we got kinda panicky music here
  • freegin' bobblezob!
  • hey whoa she's got the feather alright mulbruk let's go
  • hey mulbruk check out this cool thing i got
  • look at that i just ruined all these peoples' lives
  • what a joy this has mostly been
  • hey deceased crab
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I've just one last thing to add, since it wasn't brought up in the cleanup video. While it appears as though Freya resigns herself to death if you find her in the escape sequence, if you escape after defeating the Jotun which kill her brother, there is a minor change to the run sequence where the fairies rush off from the group, and the camera pans to find them gathered around a collapsed, tired, but still living fairy queen. And in the last part of the post-credits scene, when the fairies pass by the waterfall next to the village, you get one final shot of what is now likely the last of the sixth children:

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Donut wrote: 3 years ago I've just one last thing to add, since it wasn't brought up in the cleanup video. While it appears as though Freya resigns herself to death if you find her in the escape sequence, if you escape after defeating the Jotun which kill her brother, there is a minor change to the run sequence where the fairies rush off from the group, and the camera pans to find them gathered around a collapsed, tired, but still living fairy queen. And in the last part of the post-credits scene, when the fairies pass by the waterfall next to the village, you get one final shot of what is now likely the last of the sixth children:

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I am perfectly tasty...

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Re: La-Mulana 2 - everything is important in this game

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That second half of the video being full of text was unexpectedly interesting with Nigoro's development commentaries. I didn't know that Nigoro made Rose and Camellia, the silly literal slap game that I've seen streamers play casually.

Also, is tomorrow's one-off the mystery box, or is it a separate insert?
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