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Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 02:35
by FourteenthOrder
Lots of Crash bosses feel like Mario Party minigames to me.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 16:26
by ano0maly
Caught up on the last two videos and wow, I did not remember that in Sewer or Later the crystal was in the branching path. Normally crystals are simply badges demonstrating that you beat a level; they're not things you have to search for to obtain. (Getting a crystal and using pause menu to exit a level doesn't count.

Collecting a crystal and then using an alternate exit does, though.

)

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 01:01
by Whimsical Calamari
ohohohoho man i've been waiting for this. secret world here we goooooo

btw, raocow, you are missing something about the multi-bounce boxes. here's an explanation of what's going on with them, spoilered in case you want to figure it out yourself:

there's 10 wumpa fruits in each, but when you bounce the first time it starts a timer. when the timer runs out, the box breaks no matter what. that's why, every time you've "played it safe" by holding jump for as long as possible, you've only gotten 7 or 8 fruits out of it and a relatively unpredictable break. so that's actually a less safe way to go about it.


Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 02:14
by Leet
I mean he literally says almost that in the video

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 02:30
by SAJewers
Whimsical Calamari wrote: btw, raocow, you are missing something about the multi-bounce boxes. here's an explanation of what's going on with them, spoilered in case you want to figure it out yourself:

there's 10 wumpa fruits in each, but when you bounce the first time it starts a timer. when the timer runs out, the box breaks no matter what. that's why, every time you've "played it safe" by holding jump for as long as possible, you've only gotten 7 or 8 fruits out of it and a relatively unpredictable break. so that's actually a less safe way to go about it.

So, basically, like multi-coins in mario edit: multi-coin blocks, rather


Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 03:53
by Whimsical Calamari
SAJewers wrote:

So, basically, like multi-coins in mario

...well when you put it that way

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 04:28
by ano0maly
Yikes Hangin' Out was hard, and also yeah how is Crash spinning while holding onto the wire meshes? (In the remake he rotates the arm positions while spinning.)

This may sound obvious, but I think with those jumps that you were having trouble with, instead of looking only at the obstacles in front, observe the floor and how close you are to the edge. It seemed that there were times you weren't close enough when you jumped.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 20:44
by Grounder
silly raocow, time travel is the next one

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 30 Nov 2019, 23:18
by Cyril
this is supposedly the best game of the trilogy? at least from what i've heard?

'cause uuuHHHHH this looks way worse than crash 1 so far. today part of it was raocow's fault for sure but the design at its core is just..... not good

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 00:46
by Hoeloe
Cyril wrote: this is supposedly the best game of the trilogy? at least from what i've heard?

'cause uuuHHHHH this looks way worse than crash 1 so far. today part of it was raocow's fault for sure but the design at its core is just..... not good
Crash 2 has a lot more weird stuff required for 100% than Crash 1 (I think as a countermeasure to no longer needing to get all boxes without dying for a gem), but a regular playthrough is a lot more manageable. They tone it down a lot in Crash 3 (which I honestly think is the best in the series), but there's still a couple of bits of very obtuse design.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 03:40
by Piesonscreations
Yeah, I'm also finding Crash 2 a bit less fun (at least to watch) than Crash 1. Also, I don't like the hub being so tiny and busy. Makes me feel claustrophobic.
I think it mainly comes down to the box collecting tho.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 04:23
by MonkeyShrapnel
That was certainly one of the more creative ways I've seen someone get the box gem in Diggin' It.

You do have to do a bit of backtracking to get it, but you definitely don't have to backtrack through the entire death route like that, let alone climb along the side geometry like that to go across the gap at the end like that.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 05:47
by Whimsical Calamari
MonkeyShrapnel wrote: That was certainly one of the more creative ways I've seen someone get the box gem in Diggin' It.
i'm pretty sure that's the main way i got both gems in that level. i don't know if i ever realized that the skull platform was a "get here without dying" challenge. i either saw it or i didn't, and chalked it up to "i guess i dont have enough clear gems"

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 06:30
by ano0maly
The beehive levels are IMO the most bland type of setting relative to how far you are in the game. The music isn't that notable, and nothing really stood out so it felt like I just played through the levels without paying attention to what's there and felt "Ok that happened" and just moved on. Ironically the level type I forgot about until this LP wasn't this, it was Road to Ruin.

This wasn't the first level that involved split paths and backtracking to explore both paths - the intent may have been to go through one path and then backtrack through the same path to return to the fork, and after that proceed in the other path. After you clear stuff in the given path it would be easier to go back through it, although in this case the presence of beehives meant there's a limit to how much you can clear out. But honestly, it felt like the skull path was easier to go back than forward, because the plants weren't attacking as you approached them. (

You can bounce on those crouching red plants and defeat them with the body slam, or with spinning while burrowed.

) Or maybe that's because the nitro crates were gone? I guess this level was designed so that you can go back and forth through either path even though one is a challenge path, seeing as how you can ride the first skull platform back to the fork. I was also surprised that the second skull platform at the end of the death route remained even after the first platform became unavailable. I wonder how exploiting the side terrain affects the trigger for whether or not you're in this side area.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 07:56
by Leet
This beehive setting is actually very interesting to me because it's just past where I ever played to as a kid, so it's like this weird bizarro version of the forest levels I'm used to, with all these strange new enemies.

Also there are good reasons for this to be considered the best in the series, but ymmv on the actual level design. I think it's fine? But those three mostly similar sewer levels in close proximity are pretty hmmm

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 15:27
by Blivsey
The death animations in the beehive levels are all really good. rao has seen two of the three I'm thinking of

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 19:58
by KobaBeach
this thraed is fuckign cursed

every time im incapacitated from updating the op for some reason

first it was depression now it's acute stomach aches what's next

op updated btw

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 21:27
by BurntTenda
I hope you'll be okay Koba

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 23:43
by ano0maly
They should've given this level Stormy Ascent treatment :demo:

The comments on Youtube said this too, but just for the record within this thread: the missing box in Cold Hard Crash is

in the bonus level, above the two bounce crates; it's just above screen visibility

.

The death route exit really should've brought you where you left off in the main path, instead of past a point of no return. And initially I was thinking that maybe it would be easier to finish the sidescrolling portion of the main path and then backtrack to the skull platform, so that then you can just go through the death route once and be done with it. But you can't, since there's a point of no return within the sidescrolling too, right after where the platform is found.

The next time you play this level, I would recommend saving that checkpoint right next to the skull platform until after you're done with the skull path.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 01 Dec 2019, 23:48
by SAJewers
ano0maly wrote: the missing box in Cold Hard Crash is

in the bonus level, above the two bounce crates; it's just above screen visibility

.

For anyone who needs an image, credit Beta_Squared in the Spotzone


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Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 02 Dec 2019, 00:22
by Window Squeegee
It really doesn't get much worse than Cold Hard Crash. Getting the box gem in it is basically a culmination of every terrible design choice for a Crash game rolled up into one. On the bright side, it really doesn't get much worse than Cold Hard Crash. Except maybe a few outliers.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 02 Dec 2019, 00:58
by Bean
Cold Hard Crash is as hard as the game gets with all boxes, although there are some other contenders later on. Still, it's not the end of the world. You're there. It's just a frustrating level. Pretty sure that was one of my last gems both times I played the game, too!

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 02 Dec 2019, 02:39
by The Doctor
Oh, man, when I saw that 144/145 I laughed so hard. raocow's reaction was perfect.

I had a horrible time with the level too, but I did enjoy the challenge of it despite the level leaning heavily on some BS design choices. But yeah, playing on your own time without worrying about a schedule or entertaining your viewers does reduce a lot of the frustrations.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 02 Dec 2019, 13:09
by tirakai
I find Cold Hard Crash pretty fun just playing through it normally but yeah, getting all the boxes is a pretty horrendous experience. You can definitely feel the classic 'gotta make it hard in annoying ways so the game takes longer to complete' design standard here.

Weirdly, watching raocow play through this makes me want to replay the Spyro games rather than replay Crash. I wish I had my PS4 with me here.

Re: Crash Bandicoot Trilogy - U R Not Red E

Posted: 02 Dec 2019, 17:32
by Hoeloe
Having recently gone through all 3 Crash games playing the remakes...

Cold Hard Crash is the worst.