All the S@nics - the end

[Grounder]

Tomorrow: The game suddenly decides 2 8-bit had one pretty good idea.

It's wrong.

[Blivsey]

Oh wow I actually forgot that the end is literally tomorrow

Somehow the game flew by despite being done at one act per day

[Crow]

Maximum Jank Zone

i really don't enjoy this level, also i always skip half of it by going through the rotor because the less i have to play the better. tomorrow isn't any better though

the entire end stretch of sonic 2 is just a mess really

[Piesonscreations]

I think this zone was as far as i got in the game as a kid.

[Grounder]

[Heavy Sigh]

Fun Sonic Facts!

Death Egg Zone was originally meant to be a full stage, but that was scrapped around the middle of development as Sonic Team realized that it would take too much time to insert another tileset and area map. Instead, it was made into the final boss fight, much like Final Zone from Sonic 1, reusing Chemical Plant Zone's graphics and only getting a new background. That change was not communicated in time to Masato Nakamura, who had already created an entire song for the Death Egg Zone and was a bit shocked to learn the average player would only hear about three seconds of it.

Since Death Egg Zone was one of the last zones finished, there are some questionable decisions and missed bugs in it. The biggest is that Robotnik is meant to have a laughing animation whenever Sonic takes a hit from Mecha Sonic. However, since Sonic has no Rings, taking a hit results in the player dying and instantly freezing all gameplay. As well, the door sprite in both Chemical Plant Zone and Death Egg Zone is actually assembled incorrectly, with the right side flipped the wrong way with 8×8 tiles that go unused due to the incorrect sprite assembly. The reason for this is because the doors use the object subtype $00, the subtype for the doors in Hill Top Zone, rather than subtype $02 which is meant to be used in Chemical Plant and Death Egg.

[thatguyif]

Okay, to answer some points in the last video:

• You had other opportunities to hit that final boss. The part above his spiky hands is also vulnerable, which means you can hit him right after he does his stomp attack (since he lowers himself while doing so), and you can time your jumps for another hit or two when he launches his hands at you. That shortens the boss time considerably.
• The All Emeralds ending doesn't add any color to still frames. The only thing that occurs is Sonic goes Super after landing on the Tornado (if I recall this matter correctly).
• The song you didn't recognize, and the one before that, are the Two Player Vs. Mode tracks for Emerald Hills Zone and Mystic Cave Zone. There is a third track that is also for Casino Night Zone in 2P Vs.

Now, assuming the next game is what I think it is...please let it be the Japanese soundtrack...

[Super Llama]

This is a good time to link the creepiest Death Egg Zone remix ever made.

[Kincyr]

The All Emeralds ending doesn't add any color to still frames. The only thing that occurs is Sonic goes Super after landing on the Tornado (if I recall this matter correctly).

close, instead of falling, Sonic has already gone Super and is flying down on his own, and flies alongside the plane instead of landing on it. side note: with all emeralds, the Flickies are replaced with Lockies (bald eagles) because Flicky shares Sonic's palette (which I learned after beating the game as Knuckles, as the Flickies are red)

for those curious, if you've beaten Death Egg as Tails, there's no alternate screens with Sonic in Tails' place, so instead you have an additional 45 seconds of Tails falling, spinning all the way, so the music is synced with Sonic's arrival in the plane

[Crow]

and to think that this is one of two bosses from the classic series that sonic team considered "iconic" enough to keep reusing over and over

[Leet]

Game structure update:

Sonic 1:
7 zones
3 acts each (except for Final Zone)
19 acts total

Sonic 1 8-bit:
6 zones
3 acts each
18 acts total

Sonic 2 8-bit:
7 zones
3 acts each
21 acts total

Sonic 2:
11 zones
7 2-act zones, 1 3-act zone, 3 1-act zones
20 acts total

[Le Neveu de Rameau]

Fun fact: Whenever I see the box art for this game, I would always parse the title as "Sonic 2: The Hedgehog". I'm glad to see the logo on the final screen of the game continues this proud tradition.

[DinnerSonic]

Guess I missed a day or two again... I could toss in the Masa Demos for Wing Fortress Zone or the two songs from Death Egg Zone, but I think now's the time to bring out a more special Sonic 2 related song in Japanese and English! The Sonic 2 ending song... is actually a love song!




I really am not a fan of when Sonic games go "Okay, fight this boss with no rings at all" and it especially stings when they do it for the big finale of the game after you were having a good time. I guess it's a way to extend gameplay, or to avoid how easy it can be to just collect a ring, take damage, grab it again, be invincible. I feel like some of the modern 2D Sonic games circumvent that by having rings you recollect bounce farther and farther away if you keep losing the same ones.

I'm looking forward to the upcoming 1993 Sonic games, we're gonna get some... interesting ones... if I remember right.

[KobaBeach]

Fun Sonic Facts!

To go along with the Gamera references in Sonic 2 8-bit

and Triple Trouble

, Mecha Sonic, or Silver Sonic, is kind of a reference to MechaGodzilla.

S2 Mecha Sonic:

SA1 Mecha Sonic

(spoilers for an upcoming game!):

MechaGodzilla:

[Nast]

You can make the fight much quicker by jumping over his hand spikes and hitting him in the chest during his march, as well as when he stomps like thatguyif said. They're very risky moves though.

I think having no rings Is what ruins this boss. The threat of a one-hit death stops you from experimenting and you adopt the safest, most boring strategy, and I couldn't blame you.

Btw if you can get behind Robotnik as he's coming down to stomp you, he'll perform a different attack. I believe he throws out Robotnik-shaped bombs? It's been too long since I've seen it.

[Awoo]

SA1 Mecha Sonic

(spoilers for an upcoming game!):

shame that all that model does is just hang out in a tube in that one section of Robotnik's Base in the Mystic Ruin

Jimmeh

[Awoo]

My guess for the next game?

SegaSonic the Hedgehog came out in 1992, so maybe that's it?

[raocow]

My guess for the next game?

SegaSonic the Hedgehog came out in 1992, so maybe that's it?

that's 1993

[Awoo]

My guess for the next game?

SegaSonic the Hedgehog came out in 1992, so maybe that's it?

that's 1993

1992 in Japan?

guess I have no idea then!

[raocow]

My guess for the next game?

SegaSonic the Hedgehog came out in 1992, so maybe that's it?

that's 1993

1992 in Japan?

guess I have no idea then!

'The game was released in Japanese arcades in late 1993.[a]' according to wiki. the a is because they aren't sure on what month

[KobaBeach]

Btw if you can get behind Robotnik as he's coming down to stomp you, he'll perform a different attack. I believe he throws out Robotnik-shaped bombs? It's been too long since I've seen it.

Yeah, he basically spams Robotnik shaped bombs until it's time to fly off or you go back to the front.

If you're in a literal tight spot, it can be pretty fucked.

[thatguyif]

The All Emeralds ending doesn't add any color to still frames. The only thing that occurs is Sonic goes Super after landing on the Tornado (if I recall this matter correctly).

close, instead of falling, Sonic has already gone Super and is flying down on his own, and flies alongside the plane instead of landing on it. side note: with all emeralds, the Flickies are replaced with Lockies (bald eagles) because Flicky shares Sonic's palette (which I learned after beating the game as Knuckles, as the Flickies are red)

You know, I thought it was that, but I also thought that was the ending for another Sonic game only (not saying which one).

Also, can we have a dedicated segment for Sonic 3 (only) where we talk about Michael Jackson's role, because that one kind of deserves its own segment

[Crow]

there are already plenty of videos on that topic. we don't really need another. just let raocow play the game

[Ashan]

Is this a ripoff of some existing puzzle game?
Making loops of colors seems way too complicated. Is that something you can get good at?

[Sebby19]

Its Ray's and Mighty's prototypes