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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby Grounder » 1 month ago

PHUN PHACT; TH FIRSTE BOSS IS SO MUCH WORSE IN THE GAME GEAR VERSION THAT THE ONLY ONE OU SHOULD PLAY IS THE MASTER SYSTEM ONE
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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby AuraLancer » 1 month ago

Yup, had Sonic 2 on Game Gear. It was the only Sonic game I ever owned and I thought it was terrible.

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby Heavy Sigh » 1 month ago

Fun Sonic Facts!

For unknown reasons, Tails appears in every title card despite being kidnapped in the beginning of the game, and what's more, has an almost complete sprite sheet, but is only seen in the opening and ending cutscenes, as well as being depicted helping Sonic on the box art. Given that fact, it's generally thought that Tails was intended to be playable, but was cut shortly before release.

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Re: All The Sõnics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Game Gear

Postby Awoo » 1 month ago

Wait, what the heck? The Game Gear version had way more intimidating boss music



Another huge staple of my childhood, this game has a ton of super frustrating and rewarding moments.

That first boss was a huge progress wall for me for the longest time.
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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby thatguyif » 1 month ago

So, other interesting facts about Sonic 2 8-bit:
  • There's a plot-relevant reason to release it first. The main plot in this game (as shown in the intro version somewhat here, and more effectively in the GG version) is that you are rescuing Tails, your friend, who was kidnapped by Robotnik/Eggman. In a way, it's meant to introduce him, probably because they hadn't figured what he was at that point in the Genesis/Mega Drive game's development.
  • The GG intro is different: The song they play is not the main theme, but rather a song from later in the game (which actually proves surprisingly relevant when we get to it. I'll talk about it when we get there). It starts with Tails alone, with Sonic chasing Robotnik/Eggman suddenly appearing behind him, with the latter snatching him away. Then it shifts the title screen with the main theme.
Also, fuck that first boss. I hated fighting that boss because he made absolutely no sense when I was a kid.

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Postby Katazuki » 1 month ago

Isn't this the one where Tails dies if you don't get all the emeralds.

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby Sebby19 » 1 month ago

Well, at least this game seems better made than the 1st one.
But they totally stole this boss concept from Sonic & Knuckles.
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Postby thatguyif » 1 month ago

Katazuki wrote:

Isn't this the one where Tails dies if you don't get all the emeralds.

No.

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Postby thatguyif » 1 month ago

So...you may be wondering why this was so fucking difficult on the Game Gear?

Well, to put it simply: You had a smaller screen (less room to move around), and the balls varied in speed and trajectory (which didn't happen in the SMS version). There were balls, for example, that had high bounces, and you had to guess where it would land (since it bounced offscreen) to avoid it. Others came extremely fast on the small screen, especially the last couple.

It was pain. And sadness.

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby Ashan » 1 month ago

So what's Robotnik's deal here? Does he want Sonic dead or or does he specifically want to kill Sonic?

I thought he just wanted Sonic dead cause he's a threat to his plan of putting animals in robots. So why does he save Sonic from certain death just so he can try to kill him in a more outlandish way?

Maybe he spent a lot of money on the sarlacc and iron balls and didn't want it to go to waste.
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Postby Piesonscreations » 1 month ago

Man, the game gear version of this was painful to play, and I wonder why they put the game gear versions of these games on the Sonic GEMS Collection to begin with.
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Postby Leet » 1 month ago

raocow is the very first person to ever make it past the antlion, hype for brand new sonic content tomorrow
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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby Super Llama » 1 month ago

Here's a simple hint for the emerald locations in case you need it:

They're all found in Act 2.


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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby konaa » 1 month ago

The levels seem designed more in line with what most sonic games are like. That said, geez they REALLY don't ease you into the chaos emerald locations. It's the very first one and it's very tucked away.

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby Cyril » 1 month ago

raocow for sonic 2 the big boy i think it makes the most sense to do it by zone but then shift to by act at metropolis bcuz each of those acts is about as big as any of the zones previous lol

tho i dunno how you're gonna handle special stages in sonic 2, whether the first few zones are frontloaded with them or spread throughout
i've honestly never played a video game in my life

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Re: All The Sõnics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Game Gear

Postby CrappyBlueLuigi » 1 month ago

Awoo wrote: Wait, what the heck? The Game Gear version had way more intimidating boss music

it was likely changed between the game gear release and the master system release due to its similarity to this 808 state track

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby KobaBeach » 1 month ago

thatguyif wrote:
Katazuki wrote:

Isn't this the one where Tails dies if you don't get all the emeralds.

No.
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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 month ago

KobaBeach wrote:
thatguyif wrote:
Katazuki wrote:

Isn't this the one where Tails dies if you don't get all the emeralds.

No.
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Postby KobaBeach » 1 month ago

i dont know

can you repeat the question
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Re: All The Sònics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Impact

Postby Awoo » 1 month ago

KobaBeach wrote: i dont know

can you repeat the question
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You're not the boss of me now and you're not so big
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Postby Leet » 1 month ago

Super Llama wrote: Here's a simple hint for the emerald locations in case you need it:

They're all found in Act 2.

I would personally suggest raocow read this hint, because

otherwise he's gonna spend pretty much every level worrying about the emeralds. If he knows they're in act 2 he can have one act of normal play and one act of treasure hunting

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Also if I understand what I'm reading right he should probably also know about

the sixth emerald not being in a level so he doesn't spend hours looking for it

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby KobaBeach » 1 month ago

Fun fact about Sonic 2 8bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the Sonic platformers on the Game Gear forward were made by Aspect. Sonic 1 instead, was made by Yuzo Koshiro's company, Ancient.

Leet wrote: Also if I understand what I'm reading right he should probably also know about

the sixth emerald not being in a level so he doesn't spend hours looking for it

Yep, you get it from

Mecha Sonic. Sonic Pocket Adventure does something similar, but you have to knock away the 7th emerald from its little cup holder

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Postby 10204307 » 1 month ago

Cyril wrote: raocow for sonic 2 the big boy i think it makes the most sense to do it by zone but then shift to by act at metropolis bcuz each of those acts is about as big as any of the zones previous lol
I'd like to second this. Although Sonic 2 moves to two-act zones like in Sonic 3, the actual length of the zones in terms of playtime is around the same as in Sonic 1. Metropolis is the exception, since not only is it three acts long, the acts themselves are very beefy (in addition to being a total pain in the ass).

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Re: All The S@nics - 2 (8-bit) - Mastering Second Gear

Postby raocow » 1 month ago

I'm not changing how the games are seperated midgames. This is not meant to be a regular lp where I do whatever. Please stop offering that as a suggestion.
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