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JUMP ½ - Half a jump is still a jump

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Re: JUMP (⁰⋅⁸√16)/(¹⋅⁵√(8^3)) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Peliptia » 1 month ago

Alice wrote: I don't know if this is actually the case here but typically coordinates on the SNES wrap around when they go over their max value so that's probably the case here. Layer 2 just constantly moves down at a constant speed so when it reaches the minimum value it overflows back to the max value.
ahh☆ that makes sense, thanks(^▽^) ♡ i wonder if any weird stuff happens if you enter the pipe as it exits the playable area
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Re: JUMP (⁰⋅⁸√16)/(¹⋅⁵√(8^3)) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Arctangent » 1 month ago

Peliptia wrote: EDITS⋮ also what do the movies look like⁈ do they like play themselves— or something⁇ that would be cool to see❤
They're basically just demos like you'd see in a lot of games in the NES-SNES era when you sit on their title screen for a while, except they're obviously routed for the sake of showing a puzzle solution rather than just to act as an attract mode.

also man you must have a mastery of unicode or some extreme patience or something to post like that constantly

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Re: JUMP (⁰⋅⁸√16)/(¹⋅⁵√(8^3)) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Peliptia » 1 month ago

Arctangent wrote: They're basically just demos like you'd see in a lot of games in the NES-SNES era when you sit on their title screen for a while, except they're obviously routed for the sake of showing a puzzle solution rather than just to act as an attract mode.

also man you must have a mastery of unicode or some extreme patience or something to post like that constantly
woahthats amazing (^▽^) that means that theyre like somehow recorded their movements or somethings and adding it to the hack‼ thats incredible⚟

hahahnah ive not memorised anything like that⚊just got a keyboard installed for that and such

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Postby Awoo » 1 month ago

Peliptia wrote: woahthats amazing (^▽^) that means that theyre like somehow recorded their movements or somethings and adding it to the hack‼ thats incredible⚟

hahahnah ive not memorised anything like that⚊just got a keyboard installed for that and such

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Re: JUMP (⁰⋅⁸√16)/(¹⋅⁵√(8^3)) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Mata Hari » 1 month ago

raocow you really should feel free to use the powerups because you earned them within the game via significant expenditures of effort. They are also fun to watch.

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Re: JUMP (⁰⋅⁸√16)/(¹⋅⁵√(8^3)) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby freshtalk » 1 month ago

The custom tools are all a big part of the fun, if you ask me.

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Rockythetigre » 1 month ago

you're gonna need them in the most difficult of levels

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Super Maks 64 » 1 month ago

The only true way to play JUMP 1/2 is with all upgrades disabled and all switches turned off

(except for the 4 exits that require switches)




Also the beginning screen of B R Y breaking recording software/emulator resolution was due to the usage of pseudo-hires mode or something to have the foreground be translucent like in Kirby's Dream Land 3 (I think xfix would be able to explain this better)

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Rockythetigre » 1 month ago

Super Maks 64 wrote: The only true way to play JUMP 1/2 is with all upgrades disabled and all switches turned off
and invisible

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby gbreeze » 1 month ago

So regarding the use of the rosary storehouse item, we actually intended for players to discover it before finishing world 7. So it's totally reasonable to use it in both works 7 and 8, if you so desire of course. Just like the gauntlet was useful in THROW, the rosary is useful in a few particular levels in these worlds.

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Postby Mata Hari » 1 month ago

gbreeze wrote: So regarding the use of the rosary storehouse item, we actually intended for players to discover it before finishing world 7.
I mean that's why I really don't understand why anyone would take issue with it: if you didn't want players using it before they finish world 7, you... wouldn't have let them access it before world 7.

Fortunately for me most people seem to feel the way I do

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Dragon Fogel » 1 month ago

It's also worth noting that since getting the rosary, he's only had two chances to use it and he failed to take the first one because he didn't grasp what was going on in time.

The vast majority of his deaths are in situations where it wouldn't have helped, so it doesn't seem that overpowered to me. Though I guess that depends heavily on the specifics of the levels - but overall this hack seems based on platforming and puzzles as obstacles more than "here's a bunch of enemies, don't get hit too many times".
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Postby Mata Hari » 1 month ago

abyway all that aside was running along the top of those switches really the intended solution in that first level because man that is not telegraphed at all

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Piesonscreations » 1 month ago

Demo got The Power of Christ.

Also, it's nice raocow is now playing GMMP - Genetically Modified Mario Party.
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Postby Leet » 1 month ago

Mata Hari wrote: abyway all that aside was running along the top of those switches really the intended solution in that first level because man that is not telegraphed at all
Basically because the skull raft is inside the red switches, they're always hitting them thus allowing you to not hit the yellow switches as you run on them. In the video it looks bizarre but it wasn't hard to figure out when I played the level.
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Postby KobaBeach » 1 month ago

Leet wrote:
Mata Hari wrote: abyway all that aside was running along the top of those switches really the intended solution in that first level because man that is not telegraphed at all
Basically because the skull raft is inside the red switches, they're always hitting them thus allowing you to not hit the yellow switches as you run on them. In the video it looks bizarre but it wasn't hard to figure out when I played the level.
i'm not gonna lie that's some vip quality

though they'd probably do this with vanilla assets, custom assets would just be naturally janky

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby General_Urist » 1 month ago

Man this beech is overrun with oil pools, lava monsters, and man-eating fish. I know Bowser like it hardcore but DANG!

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Re: JUMP (3!+3!)/(4!) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Implo » 1 month ago

It's weird that raocow had so much trouble with 4th dragon coin in first level. I did it simply by holding the vine. No idea why it didn't work for raocow.

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Re: JUMP log₉3 - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Koopster » 1 month ago

hey, I've been keeping up with the series silently because of course I am, given jump1/2 is the successful hacking project I invested myself the most on!

all my contributions have been shown already, unless you want to count the most mediocre overworld events which were a labor of mine to place. I suppose I can provide some dev commentary on the two levels I ended up making.

the forest has dangerous creatures:
This is actually my third strike on a level for world 8 - the other two having been completed but rejected for being a tad too annoying, but they're stories for another day -, however a while after I finished it, the level that used to be in that spot in the forest was cut from the project, my level was moved there and a new level was made for the little forest in space. I got to be a big dot, so it's all good.

Working with the snakes and notably the spawners in the second half is kind of hell because if one block ends up not despawning properly it can keep going offscreen and eventually crash the game. And even worse, cause a lot of cutoff :kood: one of the main workarounds for that stuff not to happen was to add in smb1 scrolling. I think it worked quite nicely with the gimmick and that second half was some of the most fun I ever had designing a level!

There's two very obscure secrets in this level raocow missed. The first one is a pipe before the final gap in the first half that can be entered, which takes to a room with a fake secret exit and 3 1-ups.
The second one is the moon in the goal room. The smb1 scrolling code is quite buggy, and when you spawn in the level, you can actually move left if you go back and forth around the center of the camera. That effect is gone after you move right a fair bit. Getting blasted off into the second half's sublevel is actually another workaround for that not to happen, but due to the secondary exit after the shell jump room, I needed to have the asm fixed after all (which morsel did for me). I decided to keep the buggy code in the goal room and placed a moon if you somehow figure out the glitch and go move as far left as you can. (sometimes there can be visual glitches)
Hops of Wealth:
I submitted this level very early in production, way before I actually got involved with the project (when map designing started). It wasn't changed a whoole lot since then, surprisingly.
I actually didn't make it for jump1/2. I made this level and 2 others iirc for a personal project of mine in which I wanted to rush make 5 levels and submit a mini-hack for c3 (smwc's 3-day event) during c3 itself. It didn't work, and I ended up with a level that has too many sprites for non-sa-1, a level I really did not like, and Hops of Wealth. I liked HoW enough, it felt a little janky and jump1/2 had just began, so it felt like the perfect contribution.
I think it's a little flawed, but it's generally okay.
I don't think there's a lot to comment on my storehouse. I didn't expect the puzzle to be so difficult to figure out though, lol

As far as maps go, I'm responsible for roughly the right half of the main map (I apologise forever Lazy for leaving you so little space for world 4!!!), the cave map, the forest map, and w8 sans graphics. Basically, the least impressive and ambitious contents are by me :) I made the events too, as mentioned previously,

with one exception which is to be seen very soon

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Re: JUMP log₉3 - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Piesonscreations » 1 month ago

As neat as the oil level was, I thought the music was going to be the Sonic Adventure Meteor Herd song, and i'm afraid that i'm disappointed it wasn't :gravytea:
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Postby KobaBeach » 1 month ago

Koopster wrote: hey, I've been keeping up with the series silently because of course I am, given jump1/2 is the successful hacking project I invested myself the most on!
i missed u bitch

edit: dire dire diet should have had a secret exit where the water is drained out a la brutal mario
edit 2: i want to say the boss bass in idol's stage is by sonikku which as i understand, tries to recreate the smb3 boss bass instead of just having the hitbox be the mouth and have you insta-die by touching it
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Re: JUMP log₉3 - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby strongbadman » 1 month ago

I have never been mkre excited to seecthe next episode of Jumphalf than I am now.

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Re: JUMP log₉3 - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby kitikami » 1 month ago

I think Dire Dire Diet being completable without water physics without actually asking you to do so is a nice touch because it sells the idea that it is actually a normal non-water level and Mario can just accidentally fly because of his diet.
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Re: JUMP log₉3 - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Sixcorby » 1 month ago

edit: spoilers below!!!!!!!

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Re: JUMP log₉3 - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Ditocoaf » 1 month ago

^^^ Warning for severe map spoilers, but otherwise, thanks!

Looks like a cape was mandatory in some parts, so it's not 100% a normal level if you take the water out, but still impressive!


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