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JUMP ½ - Half a jump is still a jump

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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby gbreeze » 1 month ago

The first half is actually somewhat related to the 2nd half. Both make frequent use of throw blocks and are both autoscrollers. Also, I don't think it's that big of a deal if two sections of a level aren't super related, as long as they're fun

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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Ashan » 1 month ago

That death laugh kinda scared the hell out of me at first
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Postby freshtalk » 1 month ago

I'm voting this one as the best of the switch palaces. Every section is so neat and feels so good to get through.

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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Validon98 » 1 month ago

So according to the quick calculations I did and like, actual usage of Wolfram Alpha, the answer is actually neither of the given options. It's 5.66 repeating if you do it in the direct order listed, or 10.66 repeating if done with normal order of operations. Turns out the integral of 1/e^x from 0 to infinity is just 1. :V

(Outside of that, it's a neat level)

EDIT: I was horribly mistaken and as pointed out, there is a floor function, which actually does make the correct answer 6.2 (rounded to the nearest tenth). I am a fool who has never seen anyone use floor in an integral but well there's a first time for everything.
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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby repairmanman » 1 month ago

oh lol, someone already did the math.

I agree that it's wrong
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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby cozyduck » 1 month ago

Sorry folks, but it's 1/e^floor(x). The math seems fine.

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Postby Implo » 1 month ago

Blue Switch Palace - I actually done the room with stacking math platforms differently. Instead I combine them in the same way like math platforms in the first room in second half. This way I created wide platform and I could run+fly to door. I didn't knew that stacked math platforms can give Mario momentum to fly. It's not like this game ever really inform about that.

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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby Mata Hari » 1 month ago

Spicy take: the first half of the switch palace, the obstacle course, was cool and all, but the second half, the puzzles, were so well-made and had enough content that the first half could probably have been cut. But I understand why you wouldn't cut it, because it was still good. I suspect I'm just aggressive in cutting stuff.

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Re: JUMP (1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + 1/64 + ...) - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 month ago

Mata Hari wrote: Spicy take: the first half of the switch palace, the obstacle course, was cool and all, but the second half, the puzzles, were so well-made and had enough content that the first half could probably have been cut. But I understand why you wouldn't cut it, because it was still good. I suspect I'm just aggressive in cutting stuff.
There was enough material for anywhere from 2 to 4 whole puzzle levels, but as the epic-length last switch it was still worth being kept together. Especially since the halves were segmented very nicely and were almost never punishing.
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Postby churine » 1 month ago

its okay it was long because the palace was clearly for 4 switches at the end :demo:

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Postby Cyril » 1 month ago

Can't wait for the pink and orange switch palaces, though the purple is my personal favorite
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Re: JUMP |(6.2-6.3)*5| - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby MonkeyShrapnel » 1 month ago

What music track plays in that ice forest level? It’s so familiar to me.
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Re: JUMP |(6.2-6.3)*5| - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 month ago

MonkeyShrapnel wrote: What music track plays in that ice forest level? It’s so familiar to me.
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Postby MiracleWater » 1 month ago

Mata Hari wrote: My initial assumption was that the gimmick came first and then the creator decided there wasn't enough mileage in it
In short, no. The disparity in design between the two halves was purposeful. I feel a good comparison would be something like 'Scaffolding Scuffle' from JUMP (though a much better level than my own)—the first half being a challenging platformer and the second half throwing in a wild gimmick, while keeping the theme of sumo fire. Similarly, I tried to keep the theme of throw blocks throughout.

You could also consider the second half as more of a pseudo boss rather than part of the level itself.
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Postby Ashan » 1 month ago

I will concur that this switch palace was great and the jokes were very funny! Great job, author!
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Postby Piesonscreations » 1 month ago

The switch palace might've been a bit long, but damn, it was impressive.
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Re: JUMP |(6.2-6.3)*5| - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby ft029 » 1 month ago

Wow, I'm glad raocow showcased all the puzzles in an outstanding way, and thanks for appreciating the puzzles and jokes! The level went through more iterations than I can count because I was never satisfied with the puzzles I made for the 2nd half. It started off as a maze through the hub with some kaizo-y shell babysitting; I made it easier, but it was still too tricky for controller users; then it became a 1-up babysitting challenge (all of which I hope will be in JUMPbeta). Finally, after much procrastination, I made the mini flight puzzles here. Although it's a little long, I'm very happy with the final product :D

Some more dev story: I made the first half of the level when I had not learned calculus yet, so I googled difficult integrals and put
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, which, 2 years later, I realized was quite easy. So, I replaced it with the hardest integral I could think of that was succinct due to space limitations. But, a few weeks later, I realized this integral doesn't even require calculus!
Using the Riemann sum definition, the integral turns into the series 1 + 1/e + 1/(e^2) + ..., a geometric series.
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Re: JUMP |(6.2-6.3)*5| - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby strongbadman » 1 month ago

I'd love to know what the music in Rude Bridge is, it's really good.

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Postby repairmanman » 1 month ago

I don't think you can actually do the integral without the riemann sum(now that I have been shown that it was floor and not just square brackets).

Was the joke at the end of the penguin spanking level that the chuck spanked demo?
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Postby Mandew » 1 month ago

dev comm for RUDE BRIDGE:
How did Night of Semiramis get so low? That level was amazing... It had everything. It was simply put- sexy. And it was 42nd? Just a few videos ago there was Level 102 with 10 bonsai bills all like "I HOPE I WIN!!!1!". Although it was through the internet powers of raocow, I really REELY liked it. I considered entering a level, but it wasn't going to be as good as this! How did it earn 42nd? Why not top ten? Are the other levels really that eye-melting? Granted, 41 was nice too... Is the community really that good? This is a really exciting problem for a nerd like me!
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Postby Awoo » 1 month ago

Oh, man, Bumpty! It's so neat to see them again, just like that e-reader level from ages ago that's still one of my all-time favorite raocow LPs
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Re: JUMP |(6.2-6.3)*5| - Half a jump is still a jump

Postby KobaBeach » 1 month ago

Mandew wrote: dev comm for RUDE BRIDGE:
How did Night of Semiramis get so low? That level was amazing... It had everything. It was simply put- sexy. And it was 42nd? Just a few videos ago there was Level 102 with 10 bonsai bills all like "I HOPE I WIN!!!1!". Although it was through the internet powers of raocow, I really REELY liked it. I considered entering a level, but it wasn't going to be as good as this! How did it earn 42nd? Why not top ten? Are the other levels really that eye-melting? Granted, 41 was nice too... Is the community really that good? This is a really exciting problem for a nerd like me!
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strongbadman wrote: I'd love to know what the music in Rude Bridge is, it's really good.
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Postby FrozenQuills » 1 month ago

yeah the ice/sky map is ugly after unlocking everything. I totally did that for replay value, yep :)
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Postby Paragraph » 1 month ago

raocow getting in on Dr. Robotnik's deadly speed traps early, I see.

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Postby Filby » 1 month ago

"I can't wait until this forest is not recognizable as a forest anymore."
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