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Re: La-Mulana - Infidel

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 04:11
by Filbi
Kleetus wrote: 3 years ago In the Vita version's bestiary, Ellmac is said to be an avatar of the Egyptian early monotheist sun god Aten. This isn't mentioned anywhere in the game, and doesn't have any mythological basis.
His frill looks kinda like a sunburst? That's all I got.

"Ellmac" comes from the Japanese word "erumaki", which means "frilled neck".

Re: La-Mulana - Infidel

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 13:09
by Xirix
Kinda hurt seeing raocow trying to break the wall in the waterfall area on the surface while on the ladder but not reaching because he was using the dagger >.< Hopefully he'll get into the habit of using a longer ranged weapon to do that.
This was probably the most efficient way I've seen Ellmac dealt with, most people I've watched just got impatient and shot him.

Re: La-Mulana - Infidel

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 15:55
by Voltgloss
Very nicely done on that Ellmac fight, raocow. The boss is one of my favorites for how high-energy it is. Helped along by the music, of course.

"High Speed Beast" (Ellmac's theme)


Re: La-Mulana - Infidel

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 17:37
by ztarwuff
KobaBeach wrote: 3 years ago
Giant anthro frilled lizard
i want to marry this?

i want to love this?

i want to kiss this?

i want to ask this out for a coffee or two and strike a relationship with this?

i want to surprise this with a beautiful diamond ring and ask if this would be my loving husband?

i want to share a bed with this and share a loving embrace with this?

i want to grow old with this and start a family with this?

i want to unleash him on my political enemies and exploit their large size as a deadly weapon?

i want to ask their opinion on their favorite pokémon?
Hold on there, Romeo.

He's not the only anthro in this game

.

Re: La-Mulana - Infidel Castro

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 20:34
by Alice
Awoo wrote: 3 years ago"I won't use my gun immediately, but I do have the option of shooting him in the face if I so desire" - raocow, 3/29/2019
Truly, words to live by nyoro~n
Personally it's my preferred method of fighting Ellmac. Wouldn't mind so much if it weren't such a pain in the ass to even hit him.

Viy

is the only other boss I hate fighting as much because both spend so much time being impossible to hit while being obnoxious to not get hit by. Though the latter also has the distinction of being a more interesting fight too, just a rather difficult one.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:03
by Sebby19
Why do I have the weird feeling you find the Twin Statues in the first part of the Twin Labyrinths? That can't possibly be right, as I only remember that there was only one item of significance here, which evidently was the Helmet.

Time to explore the aquaducts! And maybe that 'dark place' and Endless Corridor, if there is time left.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:07
by BobisOnlyBob
I hate the Twin Labyrinths. Hate hate hate them.

Endless Corridor is my jam.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Empire

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:19
by Awoo
BobisOnlyBob wrote: 3 years ago Endless Corridor is my jam.
This is my jam:
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Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:27
by Filbi
I hope you kids are jamming with whole-wheat bread.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:29
by BobisOnlyBob
Bread is for pedestals!

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:40
by Voltgloss
Bread comes in cans.

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Re: La-Mulana - Byzantium Prospectus

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:48
by Awoo

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 22:57
by Crow

so does today mark the first time raocow officially entered a backside area? at least one of those twin labyrinths rooms was a backside room bcuz of the bats in it. i don't know if the room he accessed after ellmac is backside or not though so it could be that too lol

also i mean TECHNICALLY endless corridor is a backside area too so, well, ok


Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 23:23
by Sebby19
You can tell by the look of the bats. Though in my opinion it is a lot harder to notice the difference, in the remake.


Elder Xelpud in the original was a huge MSX fanboy, he even wears a MSX shirt in his official artwork (though it's a bit obscured in the remake for legal reasons). Visiting him in his hut in the original would often have him talk about it.

And trash talk the Famicom.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 23:23
by CrappyBlueLuigi
BobisOnlyBob wrote: 3 years ago I hate the Twin Labyrinths. Hate hate hate them.
i am SO glad to know i'm not alone here. second only to

the chamber of birth

in awfulness, imo.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 23:45
by KobaBeach
Sebby19 wrote: 3 years ago Elder Xelpud in the original was a huge MSX fanboy, he even wears a MSX shirt in his official artwork (though it's a bit obscured in the remake for legal reasons). Visiting him in his hut in the original would often have him talk about it.

And trash talk the Famicom.
i am... i am kin with this man *reveals shirt saying "Saturn Died For Our Sins", a necklace of segata sanshiro at the cross and a bracelet reading "WWSD" (what would segata do)*

i like the playstation though

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 00:00
by Voltgloss
I agree with folks voicing... opinions about the Twin Labyrinths. For me at least, a big part of that is the music. I sense that it's supposed to reinforce the area's being confusing and off-putting. And it sure does. Maybe too well!

"Grand Ritual" (theme for the Twin Labyrinths)


Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 00:24
by BobisOnlyBob
CrappyBlueLuigi wrote: 3 years ago i am SO glad to know i'm not alone here. second only to

the chamber of birth

in awfulness, imo.
see that place has one of my favourite bosses so I can't hate it too much
Voltgloss wrote: For me at least, a big part of that is the music. I sense that it's supposed to reinforce the area's being confusing and off-putting. And it sure does. Maybe too well!
for sure, LM2 has a piece that achieves similar effects for a much "better" area.

The Twin Labyrinth theme only suits the toxic/timed parts of the Labyrinth, elsewhere it's too tense.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 01:38
by Kleetus
Sebby19 wrote: And trash talk the Famicom.
I bet this made getting Nintendo to allow the remake on Wii awkward.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 03:10
by Sebby19
I think the long delay for the Wiiware version was on the publishing side. Nicalas was supposed to do it, but I think they eventually deemed it unfeasible and cancelled. It took a Spanish publisher to bring it to Wiiware (apparently lot's of Spaniards like this game).

As an aside, what does a publisher do (or is needed for), when a game's release is strictly digital? I don't really know anything about the publishing process.

Re: La-Mulana - Byzantine Perspective

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 21:35
by Alice
Sebby19 wrote: 3 years agoWhy do I have the weird feeling you find the Twin Statues in the first part of the Twin Labyrinths? That can't possibly be right, as I only remember that there was only one item of significance here, which evidently was the Helmet.

The dragon bone is another important item found there, though it's not particularly useful until much further in the game. You have to buy three items from the helmet shop (if I recall correctly) to unlock the shop owner's brother's shop who sells the dragon bone. I don't actually recall off the top of my head where the twins statue is found though.

CrappyBlueLuigi wrote: 3 years agoi am SO glad to know i'm not alone here. second only to

the chamber of birth

in awfulness, imo.
Personally I like that field more than it's reciprocal. It's such a shit show puzzling it out but the music and exploring it is actually pretty good.

Re: La-Mulana - Slap That Fish

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 21:46
by KobaBeach
The iron pipe in the shark's dong is

a reference to the MSX game Ashguine 2, by the same people who did Hydlide. Curse of Ocean's original version, Curse of IRON PIPE, samples the main theme of said game. Xelpud also mentions said "curse": "Ashguine's curse is awful. After all, it's an iron pipe sticking out from the crotch. Those trilobites are surprising too." I don't know the context in the original MSX game, I've only found out about this by reading TvTropes. It has a translation patch though.... (tempting)



EDIT: Okay I think it's talking about how

he walks like he has a stick up his ass


Re: La-Mulana - Slap That Fish

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 22:01
by Crow
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Re: La-Mulana - Slap That Fish

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 22:12
by maou shoujo
Yay Bronze Mirror! In Classic, the Bronze Mirror was given as a reward for beating Ellmac. Here, Ellmac gives just access to that part of the Twin Labyrinth. As for what the mirror actually does, I'll leave that for you to find for now ;)

Re: La-Mulana - Slap That Fish

Posted: 31 Mar 2019, 22:22
by Crow
a ridiculous amount of progress was made surprisingly quickly today

and the game just blew wide open within the last minute of the video