I don't think it'll take more than 10-12 videos honestly. Hell Temple isn't great but other than one room I absolutely despise it's not actually all that bad. It's mostly just gotchas that are going to get you the first time. I don't think there'll be more than 70 episodes in total for the lp and no more than half of the remaining videos will be Hell Temple, approximately.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
Oh wow, I just realized that you can't really do the mantra puzzles without the manual
or brute forcing it like raocow
or brute forcing it like raocow
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
Alright, step two of... 5?, completed to being able to fight the Mother.
But yeah, the game's manual tells you how the ruins are structured, which helps when reciting the Mantras. In the original, the Djet Pillar didn't exist, so you had to actually type out the Mantras on the keyboard. This is probably a reference to cheat codes in Maze of Gallouis (umbrella!)
I smiled when rao finally noticed Shrine of the Mother disappeared from the warp menu. You can logically assess it has left the Frontside. I'm excited to see raocow go through the True Shrine of the Mother tomorrow.
But yeah, the game's manual tells you how the ruins are structured, which helps when reciting the Mantras. In the original, the Djet Pillar didn't exist, so you had to actually type out the Mantras on the keyboard. This is probably a reference to cheat codes in Maze of Gallouis (umbrella!)
I smiled when rao finally noticed Shrine of the Mother disappeared from the warp menu. You can logically assess it has left the Frontside. I'm excited to see raocow go through the True Shrine of the Mother tomorrow.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
I think you can do it without the manual through the hints provided, so I'll try and intuit it using the clues in the first post:
Mantra solution spoilers (this is the whole solution spelled out step by step):
Of course, I'm not new to this game and I knew the solution going into today's episode, or at least was able to remember it as I watched. But who's to say anyone would look over all these notes and put it all together. So while the clues all appear to be there, it'd probably take someone a lot of time to figure it out if they were playing completely blind with no knowledge and a concentrated effort to understand puzzles before solving them. It's really the game's largest puzzle, spanning the entirety of the world and requiring you to piece together a ton of information and structure about the ruins.
Or you can just brute force it.
Mantra solution spoilers (this is the whole solution spelled out step by step):
Or you can just brute force it.
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The Mantra puzzle is a neat idea, but holy crap is it easy to brute force.
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The mantra puzzle has a few hints but putting them all together in the way that is expected of you is just, a bit? Kind of expects a lot of figuring out honestly, and of all the puzzles in the game, it happens to both be extremely easy to brute-force but honestly so vague that brute-forcing it is just as valid as solving what is expected of you. It's neat, it just needed some more clarity.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
We all saw this coming... Brute Force and then Mulbruk tells raocow about Hell and THEN raocow accidentally starts the Hell quest...
This was the most raocow episode.
This was the most raocow episode.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
I brute forced this puzzle almost exactly how raocow did - and even found Dracuet the same way. I wonder if they intended you to find him just on this repass?
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
Yeah there would have to be some penalty for screwing it up to make the puzzle not just "flail around until you win" for the average player
it's actually super neat how the maps are designed when you sit down and organize them the way the manual tells you to, too
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
Intuiting the order and then chanting the most recent mantra in every room is the typical way of solving this puzzle. That's basically how I remember solving it.
Taking the time to understand the solution and solve it based on information simply takes longer than treking to every room and jamming the square peg into every wall you can see.
Taking the time to understand the solution and solve it based on information simply takes longer than treking to every room and jamming the square peg into every wall you can see.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
I really appreciate what they were trying to do with the Mantra puzzle, but I have to agree that it suffers from undercluing and from being so easy to brute force. My own experience mirrored raocow's: attempting to solve it by deduction, getting confused when rooms I thought would work didn't and when rooms I didn't expect to work did, and realizing it was much simpler to just go on a tour of the entire ruins screaming mantras at the top of my lungs. (And honestly, that end-of-game "world tour" is enjoyable in its own right.)
FPZero's explanation covers most of the solution, but leaves out one aspect (which isn't relevant for the Endless Corridor/Dimensional Corridor, but is relevant for several of the other fields). Explanation below.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
I just realized a fun little tidbit: With the exception of Hell Temple, every area in La-Mulana, including the Gate of Time, made an appearance in today's episode, and even Hell Temple was relevant to some degree.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
not the original shrine of the mother
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
Totally didn't see raocow brute forcing the mantras coming, nor him paying lip service to feeling bad about brute forcing it while putting zero effort into figuring out how you're intended to do it. People have been asking him to take a bit of time to read the manual for awhile now for good reason. I can see the scales puzzle going the same exact way tomorrow too, just with more reloading.
Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
I don't see him reloading though. Especially since he knows it's justna whip upgrade now.
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Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
About what the manual says on map layout.
Re: La-Mulana - Make It Good
Unfortunately that wouldn't be terribly surprising either. He's likely to just resort to the single most suboptimal weapon possible to try and beat the game, just as he has for 90% of the lp up to this point anyways. Especially since he seems to think the whip isn't a good weapon despite the fact that it's overall the most balanced one.
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I've always expressed it in a simple gamey way:
each map wraps vertically and horizontally, like an old JRPG map
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I have no idea how I'm gonna edit this half hour of footage
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Every time the words; La-Mulana, Ninja, Porcupine, Lettuce, Spikes, or Mother are said, you cut to the 2 seconds prior to the word being said and the 10 seconds following.
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seconding thisZephyrBurst wrote: ↑5 years agoEvery time the words; La-Mulana, Ninja, Porcupine, Lettuce, Spikes, or Mother are said, you cut to the 2 seconds prior to the word being said and the 10 seconds following.
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so this is the power of compulsive note-taking...
Got it in one! And y'all said he'd just brute force it!
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