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Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Zinfandel » 7 months ago

Voltgloss wrote: (...)

one repeat YT commenter (Nefer007) who does nothing but throw out spoilers (including, on at least one occasion, for the sequel!) despite being asked to stop,

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If it were my LP and I was trying to play blind, I'd also be blocking Nefer007.
Agreed, Nefer007 is showing no remorse and could stand to eat a block.

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Kilgamayan » 7 months ago

Zinfandel wrote: Nefer007 is showing no remorse
He never will, either. He literally never responded to any of our responses to him when he was shitting up text adventure threads at Shrinemaiden, despite the fact that all of his inputs were countermanded because they were actively detrimental to the state of the game. The only solution to him is to make him unable to post in the first place.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Voltgloss » 7 months ago

Kilgamayan wrote: Shrinemaiden's text adventures
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Chirei » 7 months ago

Yeah given that ive seen Nefer007 unabashedly being awful every video and also hearing of some of their nonsense as a shrinemaiden user as well, I vote something be done about them.

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Voltgloss » 7 months ago

Thanks!
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby ano0maly » 7 months ago

We noticed that the person was in talkhaus Discordhaus and we were able to contact the person. We're hoping that the person explains things here.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Zinfandel » 7 months ago

For what it’s worth, this is the response we got so far (contains La-Mulana hints/spoilers):
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A little hostile at first, kind of. I don’t know if we’re going to get a follow-up.

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Kilgamayan » 7 months ago

Most likely not. Frankly I'm amazed you even got a second line out of him.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Sebby19 » 7 months ago

Nuke him.

I'm not sure if rao will ever repeat the PSA he made in the 1st episode, but I do think he should show from his POV that the 'READ MORE' in YT comments is not an effective Spoiler Tag.

That said, I don't even think rao is reading the comments for La-Mulana.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Concussion

Postby Awoo » 7 months ago

Sebby19 wrote: That said, I don't even think rao is reading the comments for La-Mulana.
I certainly hope not, for his sake
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Cyril » 7 months ago

funny to hear coming from sebby, who is the nefer007 of talkhaus
i've honestly never played a video game in my life

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Sebby19 » 7 months ago

Oh screw you. Based on the above posts about his history elsewhere, it sounds like he's being malicious about it.

My problem is helping a bit too much, and trying to be sly and clever with dancing around spoiler tags.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Kilgamayan » 7 months ago

(and also this)
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby SAJewers » 7 months ago

Can we please remain civil here? If I were mod here, I'd probably be banning a few people right now for being uncivil.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Cyril » 7 months ago

Sebby19 wrote: Oh screw you. Based on the above posts about his history elsewhere, it sounds like he's being malicious about it.

My problem is helping a bit too much, and trying to be sly and clever with dancing around spoiler tags.
i just don't like hypocrisy, my dude
i've honestly never played a video game in my life

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Sebby19 » 7 months ago

Is it hypocrisy when I'm trying to agree with the other members here, and trying to get on the same page as them?

As for the uncivility SAJewers mentioned, you threw the first punch for the low blow comparison.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby YelseyKing » 7 months ago

Sebby19 wrote: My problem is helping a bit too much, and trying to be sly and clever with dancing around spoiler tags.
How about... *don't do that*? Those tags are there for a *reason*.

SAJewers wrote: Can we please remain civil here? If I were mod here, I'd probably be banning a few people right now for being uncivil.
They're just frustrated with someone who not only refuses to listen, but continually digs his heels in further when asked to stop.

Maybe, keep these discussions a bit more civil, yes, but I totally understand their frustration, and don't see it as a ban-worthy offense.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Alice » 7 months ago

Sebby19 wrote: Is it hypocrisy when I'm trying to agree with the other members here, and trying to get on the same page as them?
When you constantly dig your heels in when people say you're posting spoilers and need to quit it, yes. 90% of the time you're called out there's literally nobody agreeing with your viewpoint and yet you still dig your heels in rather than admitting your mistake.

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby ano0maly » 7 months ago

I generally don't think Sebby is being malicious. But you have had past cases of getting overexcited and in the process causing issues for others, so when you state these matters about spoiling, people just want you to keep them in mind for yourself too.

I do agree that things are stepping out of civility here when the other person is at least trying to genuinely answer back.

The original point still stands. If a user isn't even trying to listen or respond in a good faith conversation, then it would be a good idea to preemptively block the person. Not for good, but to force the person to address this problem if the person wants to continue to participate. But since Nefer007 can be reached on Discord, hopefully the situation can be defused without that.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Sebby19 » 7 months ago

ano0maly wrote: I generally don't think Sebby is being malicious. But you have had past cases of getting overexcited and in the process causing issues for others, so when you state these matters about spoiling, people just want you to keep them in mind for yourself too.
I agree, noted, and I'm trying. I did finally admit the 2 problems earlier. A 3rd problem is I see trying to be sly is a challenge. And being a risk taker there.

Nodding my head here with you guys about Nefer007 is my 1st teeny part about trying to make amends. Hence why I don't agree with the hypocrisy statement above. I was hoping you guys would see it that way. And then Parama pulled a single hair.
But anyways, good luck with the Nefer007 front.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Alice » 7 months ago

Sebby19 wrote: Hence why I don't agree with the hypocrisy statement above. I was hoping you guys would see it that way.
The issue with this is the current debacle over in the La-Mulana thread makes it come across as very hypocritical regardless of whether you're trying to improve or not. When people came out and said that was a spoiler, if you'd just gone and spoiler tagged it rather than saying "it's not a big deal" then people wouldn't be making such a big deal out of your posts here. It ends up feeling rather insincere of you.

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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby Sebby19 » 7 months ago

What I meant by that is that everyone will forget about that small fact in the next day or two.
And was also a (failed) attempt to downplay it.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby ano0maly » 7 months ago

Someone trying to, and stumbling in, making amends and improving is not the same as someone that doesn't even answer back most of the time and never engages in a good faith talk about the issue.

The former can lead to frustration. The latter is just malice. And we're hoping Nefer won't end up as the latter case.
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Re: Spoilers & Backseat Gaming Problem Discussion

Postby FourteenthOrder » 7 months ago

At the very least, I'm want to stay as unspoiled as possible for La-Mulana and several of Sebby's comments there have given things away I would have loved to learn through the videos. :c

Honestly I've just kinda started not reading his posts in that thread, sorry ^^;
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