Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 06:09
by FourteenthOrder
This level is so silly and my personal favorite in this game.
Also today's choice of title amused me.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 06:17
by ano0maly
Schwer shows that sometimes the story gets kind of silly and lighthearted. But other times it's quite serious and deep.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 15:04
by Stink Terios
A little late to the Jesus Juice Jokes, but the Coca-Cola Company already has it covered.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 15:46
by Voltgloss
Beat the game last night. Had a lot of fun with it. Saving substantive comments until raocow plays the stages in question.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 15:51
by ano0maly
Voltgloss wrote: ↑4 years ago
Beat the game last night. Had a lot of fun with it. Saving substantive comments until raocow plays the stages in question.
There a sequel and
a different character mode and the sequel also has another character mode.
Actually there are a lot of codes you can input for different modifications
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
a different character mode and the sequel also has another character mode.
Yup, looking forward to trying the different character mode. I'm hopeful raocow isn't spoiled on its existence. I doubt he will play it but he'll likely enjoy the surprise of its unlocking.
I also checked out the sequel briefly. Long enough to see they ramped up the Wow Seriously factor.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 18:59
by Ashan
I'm assuming it was spoiled considering Kilgamayan casually just talked about it without spoiler tags on the last page
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 19:46
by Kilgamayan
The existence of a second playable character has been public knowledge on this forum since before this playthrough was even started, because people were asking if raoguy was going to play through both games as both playable characters. The ultimate decision was "no", but since each game has a single boss that is unique to the alternate character, we may see those fights. I don't think a decision was ever made in that regard.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „der mensch der die geschichte verlässt“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 20:15
by ano0maly
I haven't seen the decision made at all. Where was it?
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Der Himmel ist ein sehr Himmelsplatz gefährlich.“
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 23:55
by Chirei
put silberflügel heinz on your hotdog today
Grollschwert - Grudge Sword
Uncharged: Shoots a short-range, but tall sword wave with a curious property. It initially does 1 line of damage, but for every line of HP Tia is missing, its damage increases by 1. (Damage is halved, and rounded down as is standard for all megaman bosses.)
In addition, when Tia's health is critical, she shoots a spread of three sword waves instead, further maximizing the destructive potential of this weapon.
This is without a contest, the most efficient damage to weapon energy weapon in all megaman games or fangames. At very low amounts of health, it only takes 2-3 Grollschwert slashes to defeat any boss, as long as they are not immune.
Charged: Tia will cause a slicing effect that spans the whole length of the screen, centered on her vertical position on the map. This one does a fixed amount of (alright) damage and is not affected by Tia's physical state.
Silberflügel Eins - Silverwing 1
Uncharged: Summons a winged platform that rises upward slowly. Tia can step on them before they disappear. Each platform made uses weapon energy.
Charged: This weapon has no charged version.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 00:05
by Shard1697
I feel like if you actually showed the way magical people were oppressed in this setting, you could totally sway me into thinking "ok, warfare is justified to try and become free"
But as it is they basically haven't explained or shown the negatives of their living situation in the empire in a tangible way so you're just kinda left not having a reason to sympathize
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 00:09
by Sebby19
I was able to read what the gravestone said.
L is real 2024
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 00:21
by Chirei
Sebby19 wrote: ↑4 years ago
I was able to read what the gravestone said.
L is real 2024
!remindme 6 years
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 00:35
by Joseph Staleknight
Ahh, yes, nothing says "Thanksgiving" better than strolling through a graveyard under a suspiciously full moon, just to fight a warrior with a huge grudge against us for reasons.
RKS-006: Grolla Seyfarth(/GROHL-la say-FAHRT/)
A strong, serious Magus who is the latest of her lineage to wield the legendary blade, the Demon Sword Grollschwert(/GROHL-shvert/). She reports directly to her superior Sichte Meister, but has high expectations for her other friends. Those who wrong her or the RKS are in her view no better than dogs, and she won't hesitate to destroy them. Finally, she is not one for casual talk, addressing even her friends with their full names.
"Traitorous dog! Your life ends here!"
GOOD POINT: Devoted BAD POINT: Stringent LIKES: Being a bodyguard DISLIKES: Sharing her thoughts
Trivia:
Her family name comes from Andreas Seyfarth, creator of the board game Puerto Rico among others.
She and Sichte are one of the two pairs of bosses that are linked together in terms of dialogue--defeat one first, and the other will have dialogue expressing a greater determination to defeat Tia. It just so happens that raocow will face off against the other pair over the next two days.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 00:41
by Mandew
If you're going to trust a robot to get a turkey properly cooked, Fire Man is probably the one you'd assign to the job.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 01:56
by Kilgamayan
It's funny raoguy mentioned slip-sliding late in the stage, since
there will be plenty of that in Grolla's revenge next game!
As was very guessable, Schwer's Game Over screen is a reference to Space Invaders. Today's is another culturally important game! My sympathies to Voltgloss that we didn't get to see this one in the video.
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Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 03:06
by ano0maly
You can actually activate Geisterwand and then switch to another weapon, and it will remain (it will disappear on its own after some time). Even though it appears as separate maces, I think the shield is actually a circle without any gaps. But it does separate into pieces when you use the charged attack.
Grollschwert is the weapon I probably used the least when I initially played. I try to keep my health high and I was more focused on survival when my health was lower. It's not very useful when you have a lot of health, although I noticed that it tends to break through enemy defenses a lot. I sometimes used the slash to hit things slightly below me when I didn't want to waste energy for another weapon.
However, if you happen to be playing
Sterblich (one-hit death) mode
, Grollschwert does wonders.
You're always at 1 hit point and you never get anything that heals you, which keeps Grollschwert at its maximum strength. You unlock the code for this mode when you clear the sequel with Pamela, although the code works for both games.
Chirei wrote: ↑4 years ago Uncharged: Shoots a short-range, but tall sword wave with a curious property. It initially does 1 line of damage, but for every line of HP Tia is missing, its damage increases by 1. (Damage is halved, and rounded down as is standard for all megaman bosses.)
In addition, when Tia's health is critical, she shoots a spread of three sword waves instead, further maximizing the destructive potential of this weapon.
It actually increases range after you lose some health, and then it turns into three slashes upon desperation mode.
This is without a contest, the most efficient damage to weapon energy weapon in all megaman games or fangames. At very low amounts of health, it only takes 2-3 Grollschwert slashes to defeat any boss, as long as they are not immune.
Not necessarily. I experimented with it in
Sterblich
and it did decent damage against most of the 8 RKS members, but not huge amounts, except for
Sichte
, who lost like 2/3 immediately since it's her weakness.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 03:49
by Ashan
Every time I hear the password theme I always think it's the interior theme from the Battle Network games
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 05:19
by Voltgloss
Grollschwert is also, I found, the weapon of choice for those low-to-the-floor otherwise-invincible speeds-up-when-you're-on-the-same-level-as-them enemies.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Gruselig wie Bananen!“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 20:58
by Reverning
Voltgloss wrote: ↑4 years ago
Grollschwert is also, I found, the weapon of choice for those low-to-the-floor otherwise-invincible speeds-up-when-you're-on-the-same-level-as-them enemies.
I really like calling them roombas~
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Der Himmel ist ein sehr Himmelsplatz gefährlich.“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 23:13
by Chirei
Lilli got tired. -20 mission points.
Code Name
Sluggish
Jesus
Klageharnisch -
Sorrow's Harness
Uncharged: Fires an upward spread of three whirlpools that are very good for attacking airborne targets.
Charged: Tia will summon a great column of water to rise up around her and do massive damage to anything near and/or above her. Very similar to the charged Storm Tornado from X1.
Lilli
Uncharged: Acts like Beat from MM5. Does very large damage to enemies and ignores their defenses.
Charged: Lilli may not be charged, as she is already being boosted by the Forest Treasure.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Voller Trauer...“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 23:31
by Mandew
AITEMU ni gou ga erba raku ni
mukou no kishi made tsuku kedo
nankai yattemo nankai yattemo
TRU-AU ga taosenai ano tatsumaki nankai yattemo yokerenai
ushiro ni mawatte uchi tsuzuketemo izure wa kaze ni tobasareru
TAIMU renda mo tameshite mita kedo tatsumaki aite ja imi ga nai
dakra tsugi wa zettai katsu tame ni boke wa E-kan dake wa saigo made totte oku
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Voller Trauer...“
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 23:37
by Joseph Staleknight
Time for a double dose of character profiles for today's video!
RKS-004: Trauare Wrede(/TROW-ah-re VRAY-deh/)
A Magus whose composure hides an inner streak of childishness. She tends to have a disinterested look when people ask her to do certain things. Additionally, she can be prone to bouts of resignment to whatever misfortune befalls her society. Wields the Chaos Spear, Leviathan, alongside her water-controlling power, the Klageharnisch(/klah-ge-HAHR-nish/), and has certain other abilities similar to those of Freudia, though not the same extent.
"Maybe a jellyfish can put up a better fight?"
GOOD POINT: Practically amphibious BAD POINT: Vindictive LIKES: Swimming in the ravine with her best friend Zorne DISLIKES: People who make her angry
Trivia:
Her last name comes from Klaus-Jürgen Wrede of Carcassone fame.
Also, a bit of humor as far as the Magi's namesakes are concerned: In real life, Wrede is a big fan of Uwe Rosenberg and Klaus Teuber. This translated to in-game events as Trauare giving both Luste and Spiritia those "outfits" as gifts--the younger recipient never figured out that she got pranked, much to Trau's humor and Tia's distress. Hence, as I said earlier, she's to blame for Luste looking like she does this game.
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Lilli
A fairy who once resided in the Black Forest before Freu burned it down as part of the rebellion. Like most people of her kind, she is as tall as the average human's hand. However, unlike and much to the concern of her kind, she has a curiosity of the outside world and a fondness of humans. This leads to her having only a few friends, with Spiritia being one of them. Upon obtaining the Treasure of the Black Forest, she aids Spiritia in battle in a fashion similar to Beat from Mega Man 5, 6, and IV.
"I got it, Tia! Leave it to me!"
GOOD POINT: Able to talk with animals BAD POINT: Gets jealous easily LIKES: Spiritia DISLIKES: Iris
Trivia:
Her namesake is the Lilliputians from the first book of Gulliver's Travels.
Her seiyuu also voices Schwer-Muta, though if Schwesternschaft were to ever be released the same would not apply for the English VAs.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Voller Trauer...“
Posted: 24 Nov 2018, 00:44
by Shard1697
You're not missing anything, it's just a very very hard attack pattern.
It went a lot smoother once you got the charge shot timing down. I forgot earlier this is one of the games where charge shots are only 2x damage vs. bosses but it's still very strong if timed well.
Re: [Rosenkreuzstilette] „Voller Trauer...“
Posted: 24 Nov 2018, 02:10
by Voltgloss
I also had good, if messy, results by staying at the far left, jumping straight up when Leviathan dashes, and coming down behind her after she's turned to face right. Can get some good free hits then, much like getting behind Air Man.
This is especially relevant when using the weapon that's her weakness.