Wario Land 3 - With input from Samus

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I agree with the previous post. The having to loop around thing is just Wario Land 3 being Wario Land 3, other than that it's just kind of a clever little puzzle level that expects you to be observant and pay attention to what's going on, which raocow clearly wasn't in the mood for at the time.
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Here's the 'largest update'
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You'll need to go back to page 20 page 1 for the unshrunk (and clickable) version
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The small size is very considerate, thank you :). Just a heads-up, though: there's a treasure on there that raocow hasn't gotten yet! Not a big deal in the grander scheme of things, but ya know...people care...
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J. J. W. Mezun wrote: 4 years agoThough, to be fair, Wario Land 3 has nothing as bad as "The Really Final Level" in Wario Land II, which is literally made to waste your time for some time attack nobody cares 'bout.
Yeah, Syrup's Stash was a really dumb level. But at least it's only one.
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Paragraph wrote: 4 years ago The small size is very considerate, thank you :). Just a heads-up, though: there's a treasure on there that raocow hasn't gotten yet! Not a big deal in the grander scheme of things, but ya know...people care...
SHOOT!

I, I, mean, I don't know what you're talkin about... :ugeek:
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Just as a response to rao, I'm always fully aware when I ask something, you can either take it or leave it. In yesterday's update, I basically wrote "I hope [X], but we'll see."
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updated my episode list so that you don't have to commit russian Video roulette when looking for a specific video
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Sebby19 wrote: 4 years ago Just as a response to rao, I'm always fully aware when I ask something, you can either take it or leave it. In yesterday's update, I basically wrote "I hope [X], but we'll see."
As someone who is just mainly just watching the thing and casually checking the thread, you're coming off as incredibly pushy about it. Let raocow raocow and if he needs guidance he'll ask for it in the video/comments as he has always done for a decade now.
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@tangeruse
I've been meaning to ask why you did that anyways, when I'm already doing that. But then you stopped after ep 9, so I left it alone.

Full disclosure, I never understood why people put episode lists in the OP, when raocow.com exists. The only reason I'm doing it this way is for the fun and challenge of keeping up with raocow, improving the graph as I go. Instead of some boring, straightforward list (go big or go home).

Cause normally, who has reason to go back to page 1, ever?
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Sometimes I'll just click the thread title, which takes you to page one. Then I'll click the "go to first unread post" button, so there's that.
It's a neat graphic chart of the treasures so far, even if it's a bit broken on mobile. Keep up the good work :3
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I've been meaning to ask why you did that anyways, when I'm already doing that.
Because people can't tell the order of episodes from the giant grid of icons. I think it would have been better to have a normal list of episodes and some kind of mapping from that list to the poster, like labeling the icons by episode. That way you would only need one picture updated over time without having to tetris together multiple pieces in order to embed links.
Full disclosure, I never understood why people put episode lists in the OP, when raocow.com exists.
Somebody needs to manually update raocow.com for it to be useful for recent videos. At the time I'm writing this there are 8 pages of uncategorised videos there.
The only reason I'm doing it this way is for the fun and challenge of keeping up with raocow, improving the graph as I go. Instead of some boring, straightforward list (go big or go home).

Cause normally, who has reason to go back to page 1, ever?
Anyone who wants a complete list of the particular LP in question.

It's preferable to have convenience with a straightforward list.
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Awoo wrote: 4 years ago Sometimes I'll just click the thread title, which takes you to page one. Then I'll click the "go to first unread post" button, so there's that.
It's a neat graphic chart of the treasures so far, even if it's a bit broken on mobile. Keep up the good work :3
I guess I just immediately clicked on the 'Unread posts' button on the lists of topics, and never look back.

@Ano0maly: I'm having trouble visualizing what you talking about, because I'm not understanding you completely. Especially this line: "...some kind of mapping from that list to the poster." Elaborate?

I think its more fun if you don't know exactly what episode you'll get. But I guess that means you can make a very strong argument of calling me an agent of chaos.
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Sebby19 wrote: 4 years ago who has reason to go back to page 1, ever?
Maybe everybody who clicks on the link raocow provides in the description of every video? So basically anyone who is interested in the thread without having the need to make a talkhaus account.

Also i never knew that raocow.com has an actual videos by series function, but after one look at it, i already know that it doesn't work well.
I appreciate all those episode lists in the OP a lot when i check out older LPs where i can't just check the recent feed on youtube.
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Sebby19 wrote: 4 years ago @Ano0maly: I'm having trouble visualizing what you talking about, because I'm not understanding you completely. Especially this line: "...some kind of mapping from that list to the poster." Elaborate?
Something like this:

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1 - the axe and the blue thing
2 - the green thing and literacy
3 - the overalls and the jar of rain
4 - the blue crayon and the elevator gears
5 - the yellow music box, the seed and the wheels
6 - the blue thing and the two devil rings
7 - the flippers, the fan and another crayon
8 - the flute, the book and the wand
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Ah, okay. Yup, that would never happen. The way I've setup the pieces, if I can reuse a piece, I definitely will. Those little numbers will rack up the unique pieces by a bunch, and pretty much eliminate anything I can reuse.

What we really need is those html maps, mentioned on page 6.
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Or you could just make an episode list and not have to trouble yourself with any "fancy graphics"

E: even though Ometeotl had fancy graphics and clickable images in HIS lp thread, it was still an easily sortable list of episodes. This is what you should have taken away from Ome's thing.
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Griflion wrote: 4 years ago Also i never knew that raocow.com has an actual videos by series function, but after one look at it, i already know that it doesn't work well.
It's manually maintained. I've put together a lot of them, but none this past month or so.

Edit: Had a gap in my lunchbreak. The series list should up-to-date and accurate now.
By the way, there seems to be a shortfall of security on this. I've tried calling attention to it several times now, but all I had to do to start editing the videos list was create an account. While I can't remove videos from the site, I can create an arbitrary number of playlists and add/remove videos in any playlist. I'd like to be able to clear up the many empty playlists at the back of the series filter too, but if I could then anyone could delete any playlist.
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Sebby19 wrote: 4 years ago The only reason I'm doing it this way is for the fun and challenge of keeping up with raocow, improving the graph as I go.
I don't believe you on this- you stated just a few days ago you REALLY wanted raocow to play the remaining treasures in a specific way, just so the graph would be easier for you.
Sebby19 wrote: Ah, okay. Yup, that would never happen. The way I've setup the pieces, if I can reuse a piece, I definitely will. Those little numbers will rack up the unique pieces by a bunch, and pretty much eliminate anything I can reuse.

What we really need is those html maps, mentioned on page 6.
There are NO reused treasures in WL3, though, so you already have a ton of unique pieces. What you COULD do is put a little icon in the corner of them saying something like "Ep.21", which would make it clear which episode it was collected in
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Wow I'm not sure if I knew this cloud level unlocked today existed.

I've never gotten all the treasures in this game, I think I used to just play to the final boss and get the ending then delete my save and start over. So it's possible I've never seen this upcoming level. I'll have to see whenever we get to it.
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BobisOnlyBob wrote: 4 years ago Edit: Had a gap in my lunchbreak. The series list should up-to-date and accurate now.
You finished that in your lunch break? Impressive.
By the way, there seems to be a shortfall of security on this. I've tried calling attention to it several times now, but all I had to do to start editing the videos list was create an account. While I can't remove videos from the site, I can create an arbitrary number of playlists and add/remove videos in any playlist. I'd like to be able to clear up the many empty playlists at the back of the series filter too, but if I could then anyone could delete any playlist.
Well, it's essentially a wiki. But it would be nice to have an update with some sophisticated features found in other wikis. Maybe then more people will want to use it.
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Alright, we talk a lot about Sebby's pushiness/overeagerness, but I do want to say, the flow chart is really cool and I'm glad he's doing it. It's neat to see visually the crazy tangle of dependencies (and makes me a bit more forgiving of the silly/arbitrary unlocks ithe game resorts to sometimes). And his version is easier to read than the one on the wiki someone linked to earlier.

I don't think the LP should shape itself based on someone's side thing like this, but I'm very much enjoying checking how the flowchart grew after every video.
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I share this sentiment
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Ashan wrote: 4 years ago Wow I'm not sure if I knew this cloud level unlocked today existed.
Would it didn't
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Would it didn't...
Well it is a decent hack but sometime its just too repetitif there no level that actually pop in your face and your like oh yeah that level they all ressemble themselves and just monster along the way.
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Am I missing something?
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