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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Awoo » 1 year ago

Hey raocow, how long has it been since you last saw the Grubfather? Might be worth a quick detour since you're at a stag station, considering he'll probably have enough of a reward to replenish the supply you lost a few days ago

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Voltgloss » 1 year ago

apropos of salient Wario Land 3 thread discussion:

can we please keep advice/suggestions within spoiler tags?

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Grounder » 1 year ago

Suggestions are where I draw the spoiler line.

I feel like at that point they may as well not be posted at all.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Sebby19 » 1 year ago

Yeah, I saw Awoo's post and briefly thought to reply to him in the WL3 topic, warning him this might happen.

Alas...
Sorry the debate from the WL3 topic bleeding into here. I'm the cause of that.
There should be a real good debate, but this should probably go into some officially-sanctioned topic, away from the games rao is LP'ing.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby SAJewers » 1 year ago

I can understand letting raocow know of things that would affect a 100% run/reminding him/correcting stuff, but yes, let's not backseat here.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Awoo » 1 year ago

Just wanted to apologize for not spoilering that earlier. Don't want to be rude : X

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 year ago

I don't think occasional reminders about things he's already seen frequently, like the grubdad, are out of place (although I know he won't go back there unless he's in the area already), it's just when it turns into too much collective pushing and pulling, like that video a week or so back that all the comments were BANK, INSPECT, or SAVE HER and a few other imperatives. That's just rude, y'know?

...that said, I'm almost curious if not having done one of those things for so long will have an impact or not, like the fate of the moss guys overgrown by the orange blobs. I could look it up, but I'd rather see how raocow reacts.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Joseph Staleknight » 1 year ago

In today's video, raocow gives someone hope, and then circus happens.

The Grimm Troupe DLC offers some really interesting lore and a new enemy in those kiddy-like flame bearers. They're surprisingly innocent!

...for now. After the first upgrade to Grimmchild, things start getting properly sinister.


Also, that "preggo" bug lady is gonna be vital if you want to get more bang for your knightly buck. Just don't mind the major hoops you have to go through to get that power.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Cyril » 1 year ago

if you put the pieces together, between the stag's dialogue and the eggshell, the implication is that at least one other stag has been born

anyways ooh boy i guess the LP is gonna get sidetracked on this thing for now.

please don't let raocow try to fight nightmare king grimm without max HP and nail lol,

i've honestly never played a video game in my life

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Sebby19 » 1 year ago

I almost forgot, like raocow did, but he lit some eery red flame some time ago. That must have been the trigger.
I just can't remember where that was anymore.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

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Why don't you eat me?

I am perfectly tasty...

AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL! :twisted:

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby RobinLSL » 1 year ago

Parama wrote:

please don't let raocow try to fight nightmare king grimm without max HP and nail lol,

I'm curious to see how regular Grimm goes though. It'll take some time for him to learn it, and lack of shadow dash hurts, but he's quite reasonably beatable


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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Shard1697 » 1 year ago

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby tirakai » 1 year ago

I think eventually there'll have to be some guidance, though there's no need to do it until end game after he's found all the easily locatable stuff and is struggling to make any more progress.

Anyways the I really enjoy how the Grimm Troupe has such a distinct atmosphere from the rest of the game, I guess it works well to show how they're not from Hallownest.

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby 10204307 » 1 year ago

IIRC both of the shopkeepers in Dirtmouth have new dialogue once the Grimm Troupe shows up- Iselda just gave you her "out of stock" speech because that was your first time talking to her after you bought everything.

On a tangentially related note, something interesting happened when I did my 5-hour speedrun playthrough: I went into the map shop near the end of the game, and Cornifer was already sleeping in the back even though I hadn't bought all of the maps or visited all of the areas, and Iselda was selling all of the maps, even the ones for areas I hadn't been to yet. I guess there's some point in the game where Cornifer just automatically goes home?

Iselda does have unique things to say about each map she sells, but it's quite easy to miss if you get all of your maps directly from Cornifer. None of them contain any spoilers, so if you're curious:
Forgotten Crossroads: "A map of the Forgotten Crossroads, the area just below Dirtmouth. Cornifer dragged me down there once. It was an empty, lonely place but still quite impressive."
Greenpath: "A map of Greenpath, a verdant area of Hallownest close to the surface. Apparently the water there is deadly to the touch!"
Fungal Wastes: "A map of Fungal Wastes, an area beneath the Forgotten Crossroads that is choked with fungus. My husband brought some mushrooms back from there and tried to cook them. The stench was hideous!"
City of Tears: "A map of the City of Tears, capital of Hallownest. Does water really fall from above the city? It sounds beautiful..."
Crystal Peak: "A map of Crystal Peak, the huge shining mountain that looms behind Dirtmouth. My husband brought back some crystals from the mines along with the map of this area. What makes them shine so brightly?"
Resting Grounds: "A map of the Resting Grounds, a sacred place not far from the Crossroads. Cornifer told me he found the area serene and calming, but it sounds a bit spooky to me. No thanks."
Royal Waterways: "A map of the Royal Waterways, the pipes and chambers below the City of Tears. It sounds like Cornifer really enjoyed exploring the area, though he was damp and shivering when he returned."
Ancient Basin: "A map of the Ancient Basin, a land buried deep down at the bottom of the world."
Kingdom's Edge: "A map of Kingdom's Edge, all the way out at the end of the world. My husband...He travels to such distant places, while I stay here in town."
Deepnest: "A map of Deepnest, a dark and dangerous area at the bottom of the world. When my husband came back with a map he'd barely filled out I was annoyed, but then I saw how frightened he was! Poor thing."
Fog Canyon: "A map of Fog Canyon, which connects Greenpath to the Fungal Wastes. The air is thick there, so Cornifer found it difficult to find his way. Well, more difficult than he usually does."
Howling Cliffs: "A map of the Howling Cliffs, which look over Dirtmouth. Cornifer told me that the winds got so loud there he couldn't hear himself speak. Which begs the question...Why was he speaking to himself?"
Queen's Gardens: "A map of the Queen's Gardens, a royal sanctuary close to Greenpath. Cornifer sometimes calls me his Queen...Usually only when I'm angry though."

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Awoo » 1 year ago

It's nice to see Cornifer taking it easy and able to rest after mapping so many areas. Subtle touches like that really give life to this game.

Think raocow will remember the key to the Tower of Love? I wonder what it unlocks

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Ometeotl » 1 year ago

Parama wrote:

please don't let raocow try to fight nightmare king grimm without max HP and nail lol,

Grimm's HP is based on number of hits, not health pool so your nail strength doesn't matter. It's pretty bullshit.




Anyway, I have a QoL suggestion for you since you have the dream gate. No content spoilers or anything but I thought I would be respectful and spoiler my suggestion anyway.

Just put on at one of the Stag Stations so you'll never be far from the fast travel system


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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby RobinLSL » 1 year ago

Ometeotl wrote:
Parama wrote:

please don't let raocow try to fight nightmare king grimm without max HP and nail lol,

Grimm's HP is based on number of hits, not health pool so your nail strength doesn't matter. It's pretty bullshit.

The Wiki gives NK 1500 health whatever your nail level. Regular Grimm does increase his health from 800 to 1000, but that isn't enough of an increase to offset the upgrades anyway.


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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Ivy » 1 year ago

I took the warning on the Howling Cliffs edge as a straight-up lack of sapience that manifests if you leave the borders for too long. But apparently there are other buggy civilizations out there with intelligence, as evidenced by these guys.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 year ago

Ivy wrote: But apparently there are other buggy civilizations out there with intelligence, as evidenced by these guys.
They may not be physically "out there" because they are supernatural and summoned via the red torch, that itself was summoned by using the dream nail on a clown-bug corpse in Kingdom's Edge. So, maybe they did exist, or they're extradimensional dracula satans that aren't usually bug-shaped
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby RobinLSL » 1 year ago

Today spacecow dies twice to one of the very easiest bosses in this game, then notices that he's easy and no-hits him.

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Joseph Staleknight » 1 year ago

Fun fact: The Collector's boss theme is a heavily distorted version of the normal boss theme, fitting his crazy nature.

And it's not the only time a leitmotif is going to get twisted.

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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Grounder » 1 year ago

Gonna regret not going back to the circus before taking on The Collector tomorrow, probably.

Anyway, he looks like the bug ghost the player has, so that might be how he captured rao's a couple of times.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Sebby19 » 1 year ago

While I don't know, I'm assuming the little guy gets poweruped another time. Oh well, I don't think it would have made a difference against the Collector.
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Re: HOLLOW KNIGHT - Dreamgate

Postby Cyril » 1 year ago

it's a bit more useful than that

i've honestly never played a video game in my life


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