HOLLOW KNIGHT - Blessings

[tirakai]

Current attack damage rates

nail - 13
dash slash - 32 (it's 2.5 x nail damage, so it increases in damage as he upgrades the nail)
Shade Soul - 30
Descending Dark - 60 (the total between the dive itself and the two burst hits)

[SAJewers]

Does the charge attack have any longer range? because to me, it sure looks like it.

[10204307]

The Dash Slash has a much longer range than a regular nail attack.

The thing that makes the Nail Arts so useful is that you have full movement while you charge them, which is something I wish more games would do. I never want to stand in place while I charge up an attack, and Hollow Knight makes it so you don't have to. It's a good idea to charge up your attack while you're dodging a boss's attacks, and then release it when you get a good opening in.

[SAJewers]

So, if there's ever something that he can't seem to reach, he should try the Dash Slash then.

[10204307]

Personally, of the three nail arts, Dash Slash is the one I used the least. It's very finnicky to execute since you need to release the button while you're dashing, which just adds more things you need to think about. Also, since I had the Mark of Pride equipped almost the entire time, I never really had any issues with range.

[bbbrrr_it_cold]

I love the Howling Wraiths. They can deal so much damage against airborne stuff and you don't even need to leave the ground! Easily my most used spell.

And today really showed why I really dislike Fog Canyon - the map is RIGHT THERE but YOU CAN''T GET TO IT! At least, not that way, not right now.

And getting to it from the other way requires Isma's Tear which requires the Sewers which I also hate...

At least it isn't too difficult to navigate without the map right now, since the area is just two vertical rooms and things stemming off from them in mostly straightforward manners.

Anyways, welcome to Deepnest. Many people say this is the worst area in the game and if you go here before being prepared, it certainly can be rough. But I think you'll be fine.

I'm betting raocow finds the Weaversong charm, puts it on, and never takes it off.

[tirakai]

There's also another thing you'll need to do before the Colosseum if you don't want to miss things, and that's

save the bug in Fungal Wastes underneath the Mantis Village (by the Waterways entrance)

.

You've been already but left without exploring the room much assuming you needed more upgrades, but all you need is wall jump.

[Stink Terios]

That thing in the Colosseum isn't actually missable. You can just redo the first trial after you meet the requirements.

Deepnest is the worst, I hate it, I cleared the entire thing with an unupgraded nail.
I mean, I originally did like 95% of the game without knowing I could upgrade my nail INCLUDING the first two Colosseum trials so the entire game was the worst.

[bbbrrr_it_cold]

I mean, I originally did like 95% of the game without knowing I could upgrade my nail INCLUDING the first two Colosseum trials so the entire game was the worst.

If it makes you feel any better (and if you didn't already know)

at least a handful of bosses are "easier" with an unupgraded nail because they get their health buffed if you do upgrade it.

But yeah, I could see that sucking for A LOT of things. On the other hand, multiple NPCs point out that you can upgrade it...

[Stink Terios]

On the other hand, multiple NPCs point out that you can upgrade it...

About that.

I thought they were talking about learning Nail Arts. derp.
I only figured it out after looking up what the hell all of these pale ore I'd been carrying around were useful for.

[tirakai]

Did you somehow never manage to go left in the City of Tears? I'm a bit confused at how you could miss the place.

[Shard1697]

Personally, of the three nail arts, Dash Slash is the one I used the least. It's very finnicky to execute since you need to release the button while you're dashing, which just adds more things you need to think about. Also, since I had the Mark of Pride equipped almost the entire time, I never really had any issues with range.

I don't remember what the default buttons are in this game, does it make you dash with a face button?

I played with dash on left bumper, spell/focus on right bumper and I thought everything felt very smooth with that setup.
Personally I never want to have more than 2 actions on face buttons in platformers, I think that's the most buttons you can quickly and consistently use with one thumb. But then again my control preferences in platformers are a bit weird, I always put jump on B and attack on A on xbox controllers and the like(because those buttons have reversed positions on xbox controllers compared to GBA controls).

[Stink Terios]

Did you somehow never manage to go left in the City of Tears? I'm a bit confused at how you could miss the place.

I think I just didn't climb the wall, because I distinctly remember going underneath where the nailsmith is and turning back.
All this hardship is making the second playthrough a breeze though :v

[10204307]

I played on a keyboard, so C was dash and X was nail. It's honestly a little awkward to juggle those two since they're right next to each other on the keyboard.

[Awoo]

Is it just me, or does Deepnest totally reminisce of The Abyss from raocow's Aquaria playthrough in a way?

I still find it kind of funny and clever that The Abyss was actually one of the safest areas in Aquaria, despite it being super dark. Though unlike Aquaria, you don't *need* the light source to explore it, do you?

[10204307]

You can explore Deepnest without the light if you want to, but it's really dark. Like, so dark you can only see a tiny circle around your character. I'm pretty sure some of the plants in Deepnest glow in the dark, but it's really hard to get around. And raocow hasn't even seen the worst of Deepnest yet - the farther in you go, the more dangerous it gets.

[Sebby19]

The bank lady was right there!

[raocow]

I'm not giving her any of my hard earned gyro

[Crow]

leaked image of early version of the hollow knight currency

[Rixithechao]

mfw this entire adventure is just the knight looking for a new place to do his grocery shopping

[Crow]

clearly hollow knight is just a reinterpretation of ancient greek mythos
a long journey where you come back home in the end to kill all the suitors trying to marry hornet. what if we had a word for that

[Le Neveu de Rameau]

Deepnest, too, is a sort of dream, albeit of the twisting, claustrophobic kind where the out-of-focus world is not blurred by a soft fog, but by blackness and cold stone, a place whose angles seem to bespeak a certain structure, yet one which dissolves and reforms (but not before your eyes, never before your eyes) each time you try to wrap your head about it, the worms noisily (yet at indeterminate distances) eating holes in your capacity reason for understanding, all sensory perceptions bleeding together to form a disorienting swirl of clink-tinged rumbles and pale grey half-light. In retrospect, these are sometimes the most intriguing and artistically inspiring weavings of Morpheus, but immediately upon waking, you simply desire to turn over, retreat back in to sleep's dull haze, and try to forget the phenomenological experience--still too fresh it its visceral terror--ever visited you in the first place.

[Crow]

so i finally got to the

godmaster

content and man umm uhhh

this is not going to work well in an LP format and i think it's kind of bad anyways. at the very least, i absolutely cannot be bothered to do it

[warpio]

Exploring Deepnest early without the lantern seems like it'd be quite the experience, I'm almost tempted to try it on my next playthough.

Come to think of it, wouldn't you not be able to see your doppleganger if you go in without the lantern? Or would your doppleganger also have a small light around him when he's on screen?

[tirakai]

Since you mentioned not knowing what cues to look for regarding walls and such, most breakable walls have very visible cracks in them and ground pound-able floors rattle when you walk on them.