Celeste - Everest

[Crow]

okay yeah someone was definitely having an off day today

this isn't a spoiler because you saw this in the post-credits screen, there are 175 red berries in total, which means the core has only 5. don't worry too terribly much about finding them either because they aren't particularly hidden. you've spent the better part of the game looking around for hidden secrets when the game almost never hides stuff that way (and when it does it's still a bit obvious imo) so, yeah

[Chirei]

celeste catchup dump!

One of these images is longer than the others and probably the more amusing one, so I will leave it after the spoilertag, as it chronologically comes after.

[ano0maly]

If Celeste is like Super Meat Boy and doesn't add story for the b-sides (which seems to be the case, though I've only played the first one) then I'd disagree. Makes more sense in my opinion to conclude the story at the conclusion or near the conclusion of the game, not right in the middle of it.

I don't think that will work given that there are also C-side levels.

I did start playing the bulk of B-side after chapter 7, for a change of pace. And my thoughts so far:

Despite how it's supposed to be hard, it actually goes by pretty fast. And it wasn't that hard so far. It starts off with a "wow what's going on in here" kind of impression in 1B, but by 3B it was a normal challenge level. Some of the parts were actually quite simplistic with much leeway instead of confining the player to requiring a specific execution.

Most of all, it's fun. Just pure platforming fun.

[Crow]

like super mild b-side spoilers below in response to the above

i would say the B-sides start getting reeeeally hard around 6B, personally. 1-3 are pretty manageable, 4 & 5 can be a bit tricky, and then 6 thru 8 just kick your teeth in.

[raocow]

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[Crow]

Get used to it, that's literally the rest of this LP now

[10204307]

I'm really wondering how the B-sides are going to go for raocow. I think they really do sort of force you to get acquainted with the mechanics by not granting nearly as much leeway as the A-sides. But on the other hand, I don't think they get extremely difficult right away, at least in my opinion, so he'll have some time to ease into it.

6B was the first one to give me a ton of trouble.

[Crow]

here's a hint about the b-sides:

stop dashing into random stuff, there are no collectibles hidden

[raocow]

that's... that's a bit much for a hint :(

[Sebby19]

Huh, I was expecting a cutscene after that, since it opened with one. There wasn't even a comment about Badeline's brief re-emergence.

So do you need all the hearts do get in, or just 4?

Also, raocow never shouted 'I FOOOUUUUNNNND A HEART!' :(

[Grounder]

Huh, I was expecting a cutscene after that, since it opened with one. There wasn't even a comment about Badeline's brief re-emergence.

So do you need all the hearts do get in, or just 4?

Also, raocow never shouted 'I FOOOUUUUNNNND A HEART!' :(

let's be real here

this time the heart found him

[Crow]

the ones it doesn't have clear times for are the ones you exited out of the level in the middle & went back to previous chapters. clear times only count if you go all the way through from the start. and full clear is only if you get everything in the level in one single run from the start, as well

also you were making that one bit with the small block in the last real room way harder than it needed to be, you have more than enough time to jump right off the traffic block after it goes all the way left & then jump back onto it while it's moving right

this first b-side is pretty basic since the level only really has one unique mechanic to it but it's a pretty fun one,

imo it's a slight bit harder than tomorrow's level overall too, so

[tirakai]

It always amazing me how raocow can struggle for ages on the easiest bits of platforming in a chapter but get through these really fast reaction challenges that took me almost an hour in a couple tries.

[FPzero]

If anything, seeing him do really well in today's video has me even more excited for him to play the rest of them.

[Alice]

It always amazing me how raocow can struggle for ages on the easiest bits of platforming in a chapter but get through these really fast reaction challenges that took me almost an hour in a couple tries.

I think this video kinda highlights exactly what it means to be raocow. 106 deaths on the a-side to my 59 while he got 88 on the b-side to my 145. Inexplicably twice as bad at the easy version and almost twice as good at the hard version.

Edit: We're actually nearly tied for total chapter 1 deaths though, lol. 194 raocow to 204 for me.

[Grounder]

rejoice humans

your lord has awakened

[Sebby19]

I think the A-deaths can be attributed to playing the level more than once (going for secrets), and it's the start of the game.

Also jumping in holes for secrets, but I already criticed that at the start as well. Still believe it.

[ano0maly]

1B was a level that felt quite compact and restrictive,

whereas some other B-side levels felt more loose.

It also tests your stamina usage. The screen with the spring at the beginning of the second section was quite unintuitive at first; it took me some time to understand the design and realize that you should just let the platform slide beneath you so that spring strikes you, instead of trying to outrace the platform immediately.

I like that the full clear (which also gives you the star that was seen in chapter 8 stats) gives you incentive to replay levels, if you wanted to play the game in a different language or something.

But the golden strawberries, lol nope

[Crow]

the golden strawberries are exactly as awful as they sound but unfortunately i'm an idiot & like an excuse to keep playing the game a lot

anyways looking forward to today's level, it's one of my faves

[Crow]

so i would highly recommend not snubbing the look-ahead binoculars going forward, because whenever they show up they're there for a good reason
also yeah you were running out of dash right before you hit the dream blocks quite a lot in that last room

[warpio]

I think raocow's trouble with the dash distance was mostly because he was jumping from too high up and hitting the ceiling, so he had to dash early in order to not hit the wall on the other side of the dash block, and that's what was causing him to dash too early so many times. I had a lot of that same problem at first too, until I realized if you jump from lower down on the wall so that you can make the most of your jump height and get much closer before dashing, then it becomes much more consistent.

[ano0maly]

On the other hand, I thought it was smart for you to start from the top and make your way down in that first room with the binoculars, rather than going up one step at a time. I hadn't thought of doing it that way.

I don't think I've noticed the memorial in the overworld before. You can see that they did a very good job with attention to detail, if you look around the mountain. For instance, if you follow the river, you can see the water gather up to form a lake near the cave where you fell in chapter 6 - this explains why there was so much water in that cave.

[Crow]

@anomaly the "start at the top" way is definitely the intended way of doing it but yeah i don't think it's impossible to do it the other way, just a lot harder

also everyone in the YT comments is saying it but the room with the heart is actually secretly super annoying! i wish i could get it down consistently but i can't yet here comes cowman doing it in one try

tomorrow is probably gonna be....... interesting, to say the least

[Sebby19]

I think raocow's trouble with the dash distance was mostly because he was jumping from too high up and hitting the ceiling, so he had to dash early in order to not hit the wall on the other side of the dash block, and that's what was causing him to dash too early so many times. I had a lot of that same problem at first too, until I realized if you jump from lower down on the wall so that you can make the most of your jump height and get much closer before dashing, then it becomes much more consistent.

Adding to this, maybe rao was also accidentally dashing diagonally up as well.
Keyboard is the way to go, man.

[BobisOnlyBob]

Keyboard is the way to go, man.

Someday, somehow, you are going to be mysteriously bludgeoned by a keyboard and you'll know exactly why before you even know who or how