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yeah i think when i played this game like a decade ago myself i never got past this one
it's brutal lol

You got the secondary or last-ditch special weapons to use right in the fight with that shark boss. As for the actual ones, Laser Trident is indeed the best weapon of both the back and front of the machine. It's also weak to Tornado Blow which trivializes the part where you're underneath it. Hornet Chaser can also work on the face even though it won't stop the lasers like Black Hole Bomb.

Not the hardest fight in the world unless you get too antsy and jump at the wrong moment. I honestly think the first part is the worst since you still have to shoot those missiles down at the right time to get the hatch to open where you can still shoot it.

It's funny to watch this after Caddicarus had so much trouble with those spike jumps in his playthroughs, and see raocow do them in a few tries.

the music in today's level reminded me that this exists, if anyone wants it

Ashan wrote: ↑5 years ago I'm gonna make a guess that the Japanese version wasn't worried about pronouns. i.e. however they phrased the dialogue in that cutscene didn't make it so it needed to be distinguished, and it wasn't really in the scope of the translation team's job to add more logic to the cutscene to change text based on that event.

It probably wasn't the translation team's job to design a fix on the programming level, but at the very least, it should have been their job (or QA Testing's job) to report it to someone that can fix it. What I'm gathering from this given my job sometimes entails quality assurance is that either (a) at least one person along the line was made aware of this issue and didn't care enough to report it, or (b) the translation phase was Not Very Good and introduced this error and the QA phase was Not Very Good and missed it entirely.

This being Capcom, of course, I have no issue believing one of these things is true.

Zummorr wrote: ↑5 years ago By this point Doctor Wily is a convicted and escaped criminal. He's maliciously tampered with other robot's programing, performed grand theft, international kidnapping, blackmail, impersonation, caused untold damages with his robots, meddled with cosmic ancient evil. The list goes on after that.

Societal woes aside. Not one of Light's 8 robots master thought it might be a good idea to arrest Wily.

And they worried about being useful!

I mean

Mega Man 10 literally begins with Wily showing up at Light's doorstep with "hey let's work together to solve this worldwide problem" and the good guys are all "yeah okay sure" instead of being like "how did you find this address" or "we'll chat with you for a while and totally not stall for the time necessary for the police to arrive"

Clearly Team 9 here is just taking after their superiors

Every time someone mentions the difficulty of this game I always think "it's not that bad... except for Wily 2 where out of nowhere they make you do a few consecutive precise underwater jumps with a low ceiling corner above you which you're likely to hit your head on."
It's kinda weird and out of place, and it feels more like kaizo-esque difficulty than classic Mega Man difficulty. But if you're careful about it it's not impossible.

really digging the gotcha trap in tonight's level. 'digging'

This game's Wily Fortress is very true to MM2 retro form in that it can suck my fucking nards

git gud, losers

Did raocow just say "Wily Peyote"?

Ashan wrote: ↑5 years ago Every time someone mentions the difficulty of this game I always think "it's not that bad... except for Wily 2 where out of nowhere they make you do a few consecutive precise underwater jumps with a low ceiling corner above you which you're likely to hit your head on."
It's kinda weird and out of place, and it feels more like kaizo-esque difficulty than classic Mega Man difficulty. But if you're careful about it it's not impossible.

Now that confuses me because those kind of jumps even underwater have been in nearly every classic Mega Man from MM4 on. Wily 1 (4), Wily 2 (5), Centaur Man (6), Wily 3's underwater route (7). Guess the thing is you can't cheese this one as easily as you could the others with items or Rush.

I'm more against the Gotcha! traps in this game that are all over the place. Funnily enough with raocow's comment, I don't know which one he's talking about because the game has that many. Ha-ha.

I don't really remember those. But from the original NES Mega Man I'm mostly familiar with 2 and 3. Although there was a while I got really into 5, but I don't remember the don't-bump-your-head-on-the-corner-jump in it

At least in this game you can have the spike protection item (that is if you have bougth it and still have it by this point)

Kilgamayan wrote: ↑5 years ago I mean

Mega Man 10 literally begins with Wily showing up at Light's doorstep with "hey let's work together to solve this worldwide problem" and the good guys are all "yeah okay sure" instead of being like "how did you find this address" or "we'll chat with you for a while and totally not stall for the time necessary for the police to arrive"

Clearly Team 9 here is just taking after their superiors

I mean that has bigger problems than that. Like how Dr.Light, a world leading robotics scientist, was caught off-guard by an emerging problem in robotics.

MM9

opens up the whole continuity can of worms at the end anyways.

Also Wily knew their address since MM5, and the automated police were taking a sick day.

It's almost as if these things fail to hold up if scrutinized.

Ashan wrote: ↑5 years ago git gud, losers

*die

oh yeah devil bosses, the worst thing they keep bringing back all the time for no good reason

Oof, no more E-Tanks, huh. At least you still have the damage reduction item.

As a part of the level design, randomly bringing back the carrying guy from galaxy man to suddenly kill you right at the end of the room is unfair. As a joke, it's hilarious

Only bummer for this game is that once you go to the fortress stages, you're locked in. I know the NES ones were like that, but MM7 through just about everything else you've played to this point happened, so it still feels odd. I still get annoyed that you can't switch weapons on the fly in this game more than anything else. Just one of my berserk buttons since I don't like pausing games much.

And yeah, Twin Devil would've taken you down had you not have used the E-Tank. It was unfortunate, but necessary.

I'm just gonna leave this here.

Worst thing about the gotcha' on Wily 3 there is when you don't realize that you can put on Jewel Satellite to kill the enemy after it's attached to you, prompting you to try to PERFECTLY line yourself up with the ladder and the spikes on every one of your first several playthroughs of the stage. That TOTALLY didn't happen to me. Nope.

As for the devils, I know they gave you a lot of trouble, but they're actually super easy if you abuse pause cancelling. It allows you to score two or even three hits on the eye in a single pass if you're fast enough. Of course, no one expected you to use this trick or even be considering its existence, so no big deal, but it's there! I'm just glad you pulled out the Black Hole Bombs instead of trying to buster duel them. That...would've been something else for sure.

Oh wow, they included that pause multi-hitting thing? Now that's a retro throwback I can get behind. Especially on Devil bosses that normally take forever.

It's not a pause multi-hit, but it allows you to cancel the Black Hole that you opened up with your first shot so you can place a second. It's really fiddly because the core moves so quickly.

The twin devil fight is a travesty and I hate that they felt the need to put in yet another devil, but somehow even more tedious than usual. It should at least be easy to hit his fucking weakness when it finally decides to open itself up.


The "gotcha" moment is almost funny, but not really considering the context. It actually does have one reason to be there: if you trigger it from the moment you go into the screen, it will carry you into the M-Tank instead of spikes. I don't know if it's actually possible to get the M-Tank without its help.

I appreciate and sympathize with the fact that the gotcha trap is poor design but goddamn if it wasn't funny as hell to watch. I somehow never triggered that guy any of the times I played this game so I had no clue it was coming.