Mega Man - We're Here Forever!

[Blue]

Actually, every robot master here except bit man has a canon counterpart. Waveman from 5, Torchman.exe and Sharkman.exe from battle network, Oilman from powered up, Blademan from 10.

[Ashan]

It's a good thing these bosses are so easy because these levels are not something you'd want to do more than once

[Dragon Fogel]

Actually, every robot master here except bit man has a canon counterpart. Waveman from 5, Torchman.exe and Sharkman.exe from battle network, Oilman from powered up, Blademan from 10.

Torchman was only his name in the anime, he was Fireman in the actual game.

But then again, I guess the anime is at least as canon as Mega Man DOS.

[AuraLancer]

I feel like that Shark Man stage select sprite came from Crash Man. It looks like he shrunk it down and then had to redo some of it during the edit.

[Le Neveu de Rameau]

At this point I'm just going to assume that Wave Man and Shark Man are the only two Robot Masters without water-themed levels.

[Sugar]

Actually, every robot master here except bit man has a canon counterpart. Waveman from 5, Torchman.exe and Sharkman.exe from battle network, Oilman from powered up, Blademan from 10.

And Bit was in Mega Man X3, except back then they decided to not have "Man" in a name.

[Zinfandel]

I swear, that boxing fish guy looks like something right out of the Commander Keen 4-6 trilogy.

[Kilgamayan]

FWIW you actually can press down and Jump to jump through some platforms (which is how you got out of that high area in Torch Man's stage). You just can't do it with all of them. On the other hand, holding down and rapidly pressing Jump over a solid platform is very cathartic in how Mega Man expresses our feelings of playing this game for us.

Does Doctor Light's super-loud text scroll sound effect startle you every time? Please say yes.

[raocow]

yes

[AlchemistHohenheim]

Man, I wasn't expecting raocow to become this noticeably irritated until like the fifth or sixth stage.

[Alice]

Does Doctor Light's super-loud text scroll sound effect startle you every time? Please say yes.

Why would anyone think such a horrifically grating sound would ever be a good design decision to begin with?

[Bean]

So I think four or maybe even five of the six bots can only attack from the left side of the screen, so they can be goaded into just hopping around the middle of the room if need be. Also, this stage is a visual mess. It's already tough to see the rebounding lasers normally, but the gray on light blue just frustrates my eyes to no end.

Congrats for getting through the one stage of this I played. I couldn't see me doing the whole game without getting annoyed at being knocked through platforms that much.

[Kilgamayan]

So I think four or maybe even five of the six bots can only attack from the left side of the screen, so they can be goaded into just hopping around the middle of the room if need be.

They can attack from either corner of the room, he just hasn't been goading them over to the right side.

It's also only four, one of them attacks whenever the fuck he wants and one of them has a completely different pattern from everyone else.

[Le Neveu de Rameau]

Wait, did this level actually have some thematic connection to its boss? Waaaaaay to be predictable, dood!

In other news, I non-ironically love the fact that that one line from the Donkey Kong Rap is apparently applicable to any and all situations.

[Slimeman01]

Hey rao, is it harder to talk during the Megaman DOS games because there's on music to play when you're not talking, so if you don't stop talking there will just be weird silence, and the sounds of a computer chugging along?

[raocow]

not really I don't think. but man is there nothing to say about mega man 3 dos iii

[Kilgamayan]

That large energy in the water near the end that you got super amused and confused by? You could have grabbed it at the very very beginning of the level if you had taken the ladder down into the water instead of going up onto the boat platform.

Why the game rewards you with a large energy for taking the wrong path at the very beginning of the level is beyond me. :megamandos3: I guess.

[Ashan]

I have to say, I found the tilesets in today's level particularly hard to parse.
Like, just take a look at this still image and try to figure out what anything is and/or how they will interact with Mega Man:

[YelseyKing]

You know, initially I thought the large, maze-like stages in this game were kinda neat, but... with no kind of save/continue system whatsoever, this makes for a really long, tedious game. The only real saving grace is that the game seems *really* easy, with enemies not respawning and doing very little damage, bosses being very basic and dumb, and health pickups being plentiful, so it's not like dying is all that likely.

Fortunately, it generally only gets better from here. It's not exactly my *favorite* game in the series, but the sheer jump in quality from this game to Megaman 5 will be *super* refreshing. And the later GB games are much better than 1 and 2 (though 3 and 4 are pretty dang hard in places).

[Bean]

Well, there's not much to talk about. The worst enemies in the game are both types of turrets. The bosses are almost all the same. The levels all have this offshore facility feel to it. It's like this was an adventure game before it changed into Mega Man. I do like "Hazmat Hank", though. That design gets me every time I see him running around with his toxic suit on.

Tomorrow should be one of the fun ones to watch.

[Paragraph]

This giant ship level was the one I saw a shot of in full, and I think it's really fascinating:



Because it doesn't actually just suggest a ship, or ship parts, it is a ship. It's clear that the map came first, and then a path as winding as possible was laid through it, with many dead ends added just to fill up the space necessary to make the level conform the map. It's a super weird way of designing a platformer, but I kind of admire the dedication to function follows form. It obviously makes for a terrible playing experience, but it's kind of uncompromising art, in a way.

[Kilgamayan]

Wow, that's actually really neat. Where'd you find that image? I'd be curious to see more (particularly a map of tonight's stage).

EDIT: In thinking about it some, I think the level design issues would be a lot less annoying if (a) the player knew, going into the game, that they would be dealing with maze-like levels instead of standard straight-forward Mega Man fare, and (b) the game ran at a speed between molasses slow and lightning fast. It's a lot less stressful to explore a platform maze if it takes you only 5 minutes to get through the whole thing instead of 10-15.

[Grounder]

Wow, that's actually really neat. Where'd you find that image? I'd be curious to see more (particularly a map of tonight's stage).

EDIT: In thinking about it some, I think the level design issues would be a lot less annoying if (a) the player knew, going into the game, that they would be dealing with maze-like levels instead of standard straight-forward Mega Man fare, and (b) the game ran at a speed between molasses slow and lightning fast. It's a lot less stressful to explore a platform maze if it takes you only 5 minutes to get through the whole thing instead of 10-15.

http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/PC/index.htm#M

[raocow]

that is such a cool map, wow

mmDOSiii has done something cool, even if it hampers gameplay, who would have thought

[Ashan]

What is with the tube leading to an underwater base? That ship wouldn't be able to move or it would leave Wave Man behind.

Or is Wave Man inside of an anchor?