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MegaMari - Mechanized Asthma vs Marisa and Alice

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Grounder » 2 years ago

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Tenlade » 2 years ago

raocow wrote: the fun thing is that you aren't even garanteed a timestop weapon
with a e-tank that can only be gotten if you have the timestop weapon.
there is literally A Correct Choice In who gets Sakuya's weapon which is so stupid.
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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Divemissile » 2 years ago

fortress song oh yeahh

despite how insane it is i love the first fortress level so much, it's so much fun and satisfying to beat. it does a good job at being a sort of culmination of the previous level's challenges and design philosophies, and it's spamminess is forgivable as you have a full arsenal at that point.

yeeeet, the quick beams are kinda stupid. it goes against everything else the level does, and just comes out of nowhere. you can't even abuse a time stop if you get the wrong weapon from sakuya. the boss is kinda nonsense and poppycock as well, but once you learn how to place yourself right it's not too bad, still a slight bit annoying. The rush of beating the boss is unbelievable though, felt amazing when i did it.

anyways, the rest of the fortress isn't as difficult as this one. i think it's a overall pretty solid, save for one (maybe two) level(s) that didn't sit well with me.

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Blue » 2 years ago

Tenlade wrote:
raocow wrote: the fun thing is that you aren't even garanteed a timestop weapon
with a e-tank that can only be gotten if you have the timestop weapon.
there is literally A Correct Choice In who gets Sakuya's weapon which is so stupid.
imo not quite as stupid as the fact that fortress bosses are weak to character-specific weapons, so if you don't give alice reisen's weapon or give marisa remilia's weapon you can't hit yukari's weakness at all

stuff like this nearly made me angry enough to make my entire own megaman clone based around swapping between two characters just so i could yell at the devs "THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IT, MORON"

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Sebby19 » 2 years ago

Wow, that boss battle looked brutal. Good thing you found a weapon that works.
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Re: MegaMari - Pair of Protagonists vs Portals and Pets

Postby Dark_Paratroopa » 2 years ago

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Here's a passcode to give marisa and alice the opposite weapons. The ones you didn't take, raocow. Just so you can show them off to the people.

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Re: MegaMari - Pair of Protagonists vs Portals and Pets

Postby kitikami » 2 years ago

If the death yoyo really wasn't one of Yukari's official weaknesses, then having player-character-specific weaknesses doesn't seem to be that big a deal, because the death yoyo was still pretty effective.
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Re: MegaMari - Pair of Protagonists vs Portals and Pets

Postby Validon98 » 2 years ago

I forgot how silly the castle bosses were... something I think RKS did a better job with (other than like, the third one, which is a little silly, but ey).

Totally totally maybe not hoping raocow does that too given he did this game.



Thankfully I think both of Remilia's weapons do okay-ish, having looked at the weaknesses. I wonder if it's like, a specific weapon does better against her when in one character's hands, but it's still semi-effective in another's? Other than Marisa's Reisen weapon, which hits multiple times in a game where mercy invincibility is a thing on bosses. Wonder if that's why it did bad damage, but who knows?
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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Alice » 2 years ago

Divemissile wrote: the boss is kinda nonsense and poppycock as well, but once you learn how to place yourself right it's not too bad, still a slight bit annoying. The rush of beating the boss is unbelievable though, felt amazing when i did it.
Personally I thought the boss was actually pretty neat. It's a bit hectic but it feels kinda like much of the stage did.

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Jesuiscontent » 2 years ago

Tenlade wrote:
raocow wrote: the fun thing is that you aren't even garanteed a timestop weapon
with a e-tank that can only be gotten if you have the timestop weapon.
there is literally A Correct Choice In who gets Sakuya's weapon which is so stupid.
The thing is that the timestop weapon is only useful in this one instance, and as far as quickman lasers rooms go the ones in this games aren't really hard nor very long. Whereas Alice's version of Sakuya's weapon is a lot more useful, 4 quick projectiles that are cheap to use and kill most enemies easily.
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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Voltgloss » 2 years ago

Jesuiscontent wrote:
Tenlade wrote:
raocow wrote: the fun thing is that you aren't even garanteed a timestop weapon
with a e-tank that can only be gotten if you have the timestop weapon.
there is literally A Correct Choice In who gets Sakuya's weapon which is so stupid.
The thing is that the timestop weapon is only useful in this one instance, and as far as quickman lasers rooms go the ones in this games aren't really hard nor very long. Whereas Alice's version of Sakuya's weapon is a lot more useful, 4 quick projectiles that are cheap to use and kill most enemies easily.
I can confirm that Alice's Sakuya weapon has quickly become my go-to attack the same way her Youmu weapon has become raocow's go-to attack. It's that useful.
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Re: MegaMari - Pair of Protagonists vs Portals and Pets

Postby Bean » 2 years ago

Interesting idea for a boss fight, and there were the Quick Man lasers I figured the game would have, too. Been years since I've seen this game, so I only remember the stage after the next one vividly.

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Re: MegaMari - Pair of Protagonists vs Portals and Pets

Postby Grounder » 2 years ago

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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby Divemissile » 2 years ago

patchouli 2 isn't too interesting stage wise, it's a good one but nothing that popped out as really insane to me, which is good after the crazy patchouli 1

the really good part is the boss fight. the creator managed to take a devil fight and make it... fun?? it's kinda crazy how a bunch of mega man fan games love to squeeze a devil in somewhere in but never think to actually make it interesting, but this game did! plus it doesn't take a century to beat, which is a plus. overall good stage imo

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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby ano0maly » 2 years ago

Using Black Lotus (Marisa's weapon from Eirin) to determine where the invisible pitfalls were was clever.

I guess Thousand Knives (timestop) is as useful as you make it. If you rely on it a lot to escape tough situations, you would find it very helpful, whereas if you're hesitant because of the large scale + large ammo cost and you use it sparingly, it would be a limited situational weapon for you.

To me, the value of a weapon also depends on whether there's a degree of redundancy with your other weapons. If you get the Butterfly Stream from Yuyuko, that somewhat overlaps with Alice's four-knife throw she gets from Sakuya. That's also why I liked the grenade weapons from Reisen more than the missile because tossing gravity-affected bombs can be quite handy, whereas missiles are horizontal projectiles that you also get from Marisa's buster among others.
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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby Ometeotl » 2 years ago

Divemissile wrote: the really good part is the boss fight. the creator managed to take a devil fight and make it... fun?? it's kinda crazy how a bunch of mega man fan games love to squeeze a devil in somewhere in but never think to actually make it interesting, but this game did!
Did you watch a different video?

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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby Divemissile » 2 years ago

Ometeotl wrote:
Divemissile wrote: the really good part is the boss fight. the creator managed to take a devil fight and make it... fun?? it's kinda crazy how a bunch of mega man fan games love to squeeze a devil in somewhere in but never think to actually make it interesting, but this game did!
Did you watch a different video?
i thought the boss was pretty fun to play personally, i can understand if it didn't seem that much interesting just by watching it though

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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby ano0maly » 2 years ago

Divemissile wrote: i thought the boss was pretty fun to play personally, i can understand if it didn't seem that much interesting just by watching it though
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Re: MegaMari - Pair of Protagonists vs Portals and Pets

Postby Blue » 2 years ago

Validon98 wrote:

Totally totally maybe not hoping raocow does that too given he did this game.

that would be nice. it'd retroactively justify the RKS reference in a2xt and also i like those games.

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Medicine (not Melancholy) Mastery

Postby Tenlade » 2 years ago

Jesuiscontent wrote: The thing is that the timestop weapon is only useful in this one instance, and as far as quickman lasers rooms go the ones in this games aren't really hard nor very long. Whereas Alice's version of Sakuya's weapon is a lot more useful, 4 quick projectiles that are cheap to use and kill most enemies easily.
I mean in the sense you miss out on a whole e-tank is the part that annoys me, considering both alice and marisa get a wall breaking skill, but here only one gets an etank. Thats dumb, especially with how much an e-tank can help getting through a level/boss.

Also Timestop abilities are always great because they let you bypass enemies that spawn/fall into your path by letting you run past them before they appear.
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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby Bean » 2 years ago

Pretty sure that boss was also weak to the Yin Yang orb things, too. Don't know if it's character specific or not.

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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby Grounder » 2 years ago

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Re: MegaMari - Determined Duo vs Density-defying Drunk

Postby Divemissile » 2 years ago

man i don't really know what to think about this stage. on the one hand, it's a cool reference and has really catchy music that i like. though, i don't like how half way through the level it turns into thatbigfuzzyenemy.lvl which seems odd, and the enemy is very easy to deal with so it just becomes a bit tedious. the boss is cool, but i think the charge and master spark attacks are too random in when they happen. sometimes i find it hard to even dodge the attacks when i know which one will happen, especially the charge one which is impossible to avoid if you can't get on a block.

the next stage i really don't like, for reasons i'll say later

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Re: MegaMari - Marisa vs Master Spark Mimicry

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