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Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 02:31
by Xirix
It's okay guys, raocow just needs to do a few screens of crazy aerial-combo combat, get a couple levels, and stick them in the secret 'Patience' stat. :P

That said the whole mass skipping of text 'did' annoy me a little in that episode, also geez does Windows 10 still not have a way of telling it to not do shit at inconvenient times? You did a good job fixing it up at least raocow, I didn't notice any desync and there was only like 3 noticable bits of slowdown.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 02:58
by Alice
NegativeZeroZ wrote:I get that it's annoying when an LPer makes your favorite game look bad, but you're treating this like it's the special olympics and raocow is mooning the audience. If raocow doesn't like part of the game (tedious Blomb-filled level design, too much text) he shouldn't have to force enthusiasm and pretend these issues don't exist, like you're apparently accusing the Talkhausers of doing in this thread. I remember vaguely liking this game more than I expected when I played it, and wondering why no one nagged me to play it, but it's far from perfect
My criticisms were far more wide-ranging than raocow simply not liking something though. That discussion is fairly well concluded now anyways though so there's not really any need to continue it.
Also it's pretty typical for views to drop off dramatically after Part 1, that's why the biggest gaming channels never finish ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
You're misunderstanding what I was saying. I'm aware of that fact. The important stuff was where I compared Dust to Hyper Light Drifter as well as the comparison of views between Dust episodes and the VLDC9 videos. Even taking into account that series tend to get a lot less views after the first episode and that B-sides get fewer views than the A-sides it seems unusually low in Dust's case.
Xirix wrote:also geez does Windows 10 still not have a way of telling it to not do shit at inconvenient times? You did a good job fixing it up at least raocow, I didn't notice any desync and there was only like 3 noticable bits of slowdown.
It still doesn't really. If you have Windows 10 Pro you can use the group policy editor to change it up some but if you're on Home you're basically totally screwed. And despite the fact that Windows 10 is supposed to pick times where the computer is inactive as well as always giving you a notice allowing you to delay the updates if necessary, for a lot of people it doesn't reliably pick good times at all and for plenty it also rarely, if ever, gives the notices for delaying updates.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 04:04
by Grey V
So yeah, thought I'd say I'm really enjoying this series. Pretty gratifying as well since, I'll admit I played and enjoyed this (for all the foibles it can admittedly have), and it's cool seeing raocow enjoy as well -- that sheer mania of mania of combat is a delight to behold, and while he does talk over some of the story a bit, I don't blame him for it -- he gives the characters time to speak usually, and that's pretty cool. The "brooding weeb" Dust is a rather amusing interpretation as well. He might not be playing game the most "efficiently" with the crafting and all that, but over all he's played very solidly, he certainly hasn't suffered the number of deaths I had during my play through to this point.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 04:17
by Voltgloss
Alice wrote:You're misunderstanding what I was saying. I'm aware of that fact. The important stuff was where I compared Dust to Hyper Light Drifter as well as the comparison of views between Dust episodes and the VLDC9 videos. Even taking into account that series tend to get a lot less views after the first episode and that B-sides get fewer views than the A-sides it seems unusually low in Dust's case.
You said yourself that the largest gap in views is between HLD's and Dust's *first* video. Almost 750 fewer people started to watch Dust than did start to watch HLD. That can't be attributed to raocow's playstyle. Instead, that's the result of all of those people deciding they didn't want to watch an LP of Dust - regardless of how raocow was going to approach it.

If Dust started with a similar audience size than did HLD, and then fell off more dramatically, then your apparent implication that raocow's playstyle is driving away viewers would have more support. But the numbers don't actually support that. They instead support the idea that a lot more people wrote off Dust from the get-go than viewers did for HLD.

Put another way: I think viewership for Dust is comparatively low, not because of how raocow's playing it, but because of people forming negative first impressions based solely on what they can see "on the cover" - such as art style and character design.

Or, to be overly blunt: A lot of folks likely wrote it off out of hand because they saw it, pejoratively, as a "furry game." I'm not saying they're right to have done so. But I think it's what likely happened.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 05:51
by Bean
And funnily enough, this series has been winning me over as it's gone on. I've been thinking about picking the game up the past couple of days because of it. The combat looks fun, and there's been enough variety in gameplay as you're traversing the map that I think I'd enjoy it.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 07:59
by kitikami
One of the rings raocow sold expands your ring of light somewhat when you are in a dark room. It's still not enough to really see what you are doing in that room with the red mushrooms, but it does help a bit. I think there is another one in a chest hidden in that room somewhere.

There are also other bonuses that equipment can give other than just raw stat bonuses, so it would be a good idea to check the item description before selling anything and not just relying on how it affects your stats. Also, there is equipment that gives multiplier bonuses, like 1.1x attack instead of +10 attack, which gets better as your stats increase. So something that reduces your stats now could end up raising them later.

Equipment bonus spoilers: [ispoiler]Endgame with 3x Fidget rings on each hand plus ~1.5x Fidget each on your pendant and augment is pure Boki-esque madness[/ispoiler]


I never figured out that the blue pollen heals you in those caves. I just assumed anything those plants spit out should be avoided, and for all the times I got hit by the red poison, I never ended up failing to avoid a blue one.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 08:46
by Money
I've got relatively little to add to this conversation besides "no need to be a dick to raocow b/c he's not playing the game the way you want/doesn't excel at paying attention to details". Like, you should know raocow by now that given the option, he's one to button mash through combat, and that missing details is a fairly recurring theme in his lps. Taking low blows at him by accusing him of purposefully not trying at the game or saying things like "You'd think that someone who literally does this as their job might put a smidgen more effort into it" is, no other way to put it, an absolute dick move.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 18:03
by Stink Terios
Unrelated to most of the conversation:

Just uninstall Windows 10 and put 7 back. Maybe dual-boot if 10 is that necessary. It's just awful.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 00:31
by Sebby19
raocow should find some way to change the scheduling of those updates. The way I set it up, it usually only updates when I turn off the PC at night, or over night if I forget to turn it off completely and let it 'sleep'. (and there was one time it turned itself on in the middle of night)

Looks like Fidget is mega-maning the abilities of the bosses.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 00:46
by Grounder
splash woman has seen better days

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 00:05
by Le Neveu de Rameau
raocow, you really ought to be more careful with where you drop your bons mots; I was enjoying a fine repast as you revealed Dust's plan for keeping the snow cold on his way back from the mountains, and I very nearly choked to death. Please remember to keep the safety of your audience in mind!

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 03:25
by Sebby19
I think that new armor the shop guy was selling would up the damage of Fidget's electricity barf. Then again, enemies die pretty easily in this game, so it's pretty unneeded.

But, chain lightning attacks?
HECK YES!

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 08:58
by Bean
No spoilers for me or anything, but I really hope I hear that "Dust to Dust" line if there's another boss that gets killed. I thought that was the corniest but neat thing earlier when raocow took down that Fuse dude.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 11:09
by ztarwuff
That's odd. I've never been attacked at that particular save point. raocow must have been unlucky.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 12:17
by kitikami
There are at least a few save points you can get immediately attacked at. Maybe any save point with enemies in the general vicinity if it's random.

Fidget really does grow on you.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 19:03
by Money
Man it's weird that the writing seems to legitimately be getting better as the game goes along. Kinda goes against the idea of giving a strong first impression, but eh.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 19:12
by Ivy
Bean wrote:No spoilers for me or anything, but I really hope I hear that "Dust to Dust" line if there's another boss that gets killed. I thought that was the corniest but neat thing earlier when raocow took down that Fuse dude.
There's already been another boss recorded, and

no Dust to Dust


Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 02:33
by Sebby19
I guess this will be finished in 28 videos, 30 at most.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 03:22
by Crow
@raocow the merchant does sell extra keys; but only 4. you do need to buy at least 2 keys i believe.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 23:09
by Le Neveu de Rameau
Sure are a lot of twees in that thar meadow.

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 02:56
by Crow
congrats on buying 20 beast leathers while not realizing it was a completely different item than the one you needed

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 03:57
by raocow
well maybe Dust wants to get into leatherwork. a new hobby would be healthy for that boy!

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 10:12
by Mikkofier
Ivy wrote:
Bean wrote:No spoilers for me or anything, but I really hope I hear that "Dust to Dust" line if there's another boss that gets killed. I thought that was the corniest but neat thing earlier when raocow took down that Fuse dude.
There's already been another boss recorded, and

no Dust to Dust

Except

Lady was not killed

, so there's still hope!

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 14:57
by Ivy
Mikkofier wrote: Except

Lady was not killed

, so there's still hope!
True but now what of

evil knife hands

which was technically a boss...?

Re: Dust: An Elysian Tail - The Adventures of Sasuke and his Anime Figure Collection

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 21:08
by Xirix
Oh christ the evil knife hand thing, I remember that being annoying as hell to fight on the hardest difficulty.