DT3 - raocow and the game that ended

[Validon98]

Nightmare B doesn't look to be too bad other than like some crazy fire timing things, but compared to Nightmare A it's... well it's not that one Kaizo-edition koopa jumping screen, or the Yoshi's Island castle screens.

Also I love how raocow went to adjust the pitch of Mr. Unreal Guy and instead gave him an A on his loudness score.

[pholtos]

*squints* Is that...
Is there gonna be...
A Lost Vikings gate?

(The keyholes look like they came straight from the lost vikings)

[ZephyrBurst]

*squints* Is that...
Is there gonna be...
A Lost Vikings gate?

(The keyholes look like they came straight from the lost vikings)

The key/keyholes are so from Lost Vikings. Those games are amazing.

[Le Neveu de Rameau]

haw haw the King Cooper heads shoot fire out of their noses


Also, Double Kill indeed at at 17:08.

[Sebby19]

Alright everyone, you can cool your jets. raocow has equipped the piercing arrow.

[Telamon]

Alright everyone, you can cool your jets. raocow has equipped the piercing arrow.

But he's still not playing OPTIMALLY!!!!!!

[Plutia]

ya'll should get hype for this upcoming boss by the way

the room's title message may or may not be relevant :D

[Stink Terios]

Hahaha I just noticed how layered the header comment for the boss is. This is gonna be fun.

[ZephyrBurst]

The second sign in room 3 used to not exist, the origins of said second sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUUhg1p ... e&t=17m22s

[NegativeZeroZ]

Hey there cow-man cow the rao. For Nightmare Gates, you can tell which room is the boss by looking for the red exit portal.

[Sebby19]

He forgot to scan the flying tiles.

[Slit08]

Hey there cow-man cow the rao. For Nightmare Gates, you can tell which room is the boss by looking for the red exit portal.

True or by the healing post.

[Plutia]

You have no idea how long i've been waiting for you to see that last phase

It got me pretty hard

[Grounder]

today raocow gets jumpscared kind of

[Plutia]

Also raocow you should totally make use of the hats

the party one is my favorite

[AuraLancer]

I was also waiting to see raocow's reaction to his old friend.

[ZephyrBurst]

The actual fight are just those first 3 phases. The last is exactly for that intention. In Link's Awakening, the Nightmare turns into Ganon, so I figured for this, any DT1 player would flip at seeing that thing show up again.

[Count Mohawk]

Didn't the music also used to change at the last phase of this boss fight in the original demo? Why did you change it back?

[Plutia]

Didn't the music also used to change at the last phase of this boss fight in the original demo? Why did you change it back?

Oh man what that sounds even better

[Count Mohawk]

Didn't the music also used to change at the last phase of this boss fight in the original demo? Why did you change it back?

Oh man what that sounds even better

Yeah, it used to switch to

the battle music of the Shroud Lourde from DT1

. I had to look all the way back at footage from demo 2.1 to find that, though! Interestingly, his attack pattern was also different - instead of covering the sides of the screen with lasers, he would occasionally fire an asterisk-shaped array of lasers from his face, which made him slightly more challenging than he appears in raocow's video.

[NegativeZeroZ]

The music never changed for that last phase; that was just the magic of video editing, courtesy of yours truly. The "starburst" pattern of lasers was also removed because no one really liked it; you kinda had to be in a good spot when the thing spawned, otherwise if the boss also happened to activate an aimed laser at the same time you would take unavoidable damage, which is unacceptable especially at the tail end of such a gauntlet boss. When I discovered a bug with it which involved pausing the game to avoid damage, it was finally simply removed.

I was personally in favor of putting in a "stealth" checkpoint that doesn't pop up with a notification, and making the final phase an actual challenge. But there was always the risk that the player would ragequit instead of trying again. This actually happened, too: Hadriex made it to the final phase, died before the "joke" could sink in, and ran away shouting "NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE."

It's uh, slightly possible that the deceptive title of "Final Nightmare" is responsible for this.

The fact that this was not an episode zero is a good sign for the future. This was one of those "the game will physically not let you progress if you facetank" bosses that I was referring to. My only comment is that the piercing arrows definitely didn't help you out too much here; this was one of those Crossbow situations. But, an upside of the Golden Bow is that its capacity to hinder you is pretty small, so it's more generally applicable. If you ever need to swap equipment when a boss fight is in progress, you can leave via the Game Over menu.

[Dark Hunter]

And suddenly there is a Shroud Lord!

I think we were all there with you when you panicked at that, raocow.

Yes, Zephyr, I think that was the appropriate thing to do if you wanted an "oh, crap" reaction. I really like the idea of the old boss music coming on for the last phase though. Is that a thing that would be easy to implement?

[WhattayaBrian]

I have talked with Zephyr about how dark the Final Nightmare room is before. I too could not see the shadow balls. The room is actually brighter than it used to be as a result, but it is still too dark. :(

[ZephyrBurst]

I really like the idea of the old boss music coming on for the last phase though. Is that a thing that would be easy to implement?

As easy as adding the line: playSound(argumentsGoHere);

[Plutia]

I really like the idea of the old boss music coming on for the last phase though. Is that a thing that would be easy to implement?

As easy as adding the line: playSound(argumentsGoHere);

Please do this it'll make the joke even better