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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby Alice » 3 years ago

gamercal wrote:Is the Rail Gun really that good? I read the description and all I could see was negatives from it... which is probably weird since I like the Energy Gem, but I think it's because of the recovery rate on the Missiles being so bad in comparison. I mean if you're gonna try to use it for DPS you get 8 shots at max before running dry, and that honestly just doesn't seem worth it to me. Plus Missiles are really thin, so it's hard to hit a lot of enemies with them consistently... someone please enlighten me, what am I missing here?
Pretty sure charged missiles deal elemental damage instead of normal missile damage which is, I think, explosive type. They also deal more damage per hit as well. While not terribly useful against general enemies this makes it a lot more useful against certain bosses.

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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby gamercal » 3 years ago

Alice wrote:
gamercal wrote:Is the Rail Gun really that good? I read the description and all I could see was negatives from it... which is probably weird since I like the Energy Gem, but I think it's because of the recovery rate on the Missiles being so bad in comparison. I mean if you're gonna try to use it for DPS you get 8 shots at max before running dry, and that honestly just doesn't seem worth it to me. Plus Missiles are really thin, so it's hard to hit a lot of enemies with them consistently... someone please enlighten me, what am I missing here?
Pretty sure charged missiles deal elemental damage instead of normal missile damage which is, I think, explosive type. They also deal more damage per hit as well. While not terribly useful against general enemies this makes it a lot more useful against certain bosses.
Nope and nope. Both charged and regular Missiles deal Special damage, not Element or Explosion. I'd be surprised if Rail Gun Missiles do more than the double damage regular Diffusion Missiles do though. But that's not something I tested, so I could be wrong!

I guess it could be ok as a source of Buster-like burst damage against a Special-weak boss or something, since Special doesn't have quite the same burst damage as Shot and Element. Even that seems kinda not worth it to me though, especially since you'd run out so quickly and regular Missiles would still do good damage. Personally, the charge time down equip is my go-to if I want a Missile modifier, but I never gave the Rail Gun much of a chance so I want to know why I'm wrong :P

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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby Plutia » 3 years ago

H-hyyype???

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Postby raocow » 3 years ago

should be out now!!!
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Postby jaxter0987 » 3 years ago

I also didn't figure out that you were able to Strike Chain those Vine Eaters. I just chain dashed my way to that Cave Network Area.

The Railgun isn't really as widely versatile as the Energy Gem but you use it for the same purpose, to front load damage, in this case specifically Special type damage. It's part of a few Gold Par times in the Boss Gallery as well.

The Highlands are another "calm before the storm" area except its not really that calm as the enemies are pretty dangerous. Fitting, as Chapter 19 is a big deal plotwise. Some hype for the next couple of episodes are in order... if only raocow's computer wasn't fried. Hopefully the computer situation gets sorted out quickly.

Speaking of, Shotgun Ice takes care of the Ptooey Flower nicely.
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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby ZephyrBurst » 3 years ago

Sucks about your computer, raocow. We'll still be here when you start uploading again.

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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby Lostsoldier20 » 3 years ago

I've been MIA from the topic (especially because FF14 has taken over my life once more) but I still have opinions on stuff!

The entire snow base is probably one of my favorite areas in the game, until the second half with the red lasers gets a bit boring. I personally find the grapples precise, but fairly so. There were so many times that I blatantly missed, but still hooked on. There were a lot of moments here where yelling at the screen happened, especially that long hallway autoscroller with the grapple and switches.

Both bosses are great. I said before, but Brain Machine is precise but a fun precise. It keeps you moving constantly, and has you playing a finger dance. I like these finger dances. Some of the complaints of the FF14 fights recently is too many mechanics making finger dances, all the while I am enjoying it. So that's my taste, I guess. I like these super intensive fights.

Which makes sense why the final boss is my favorite boss.



Chaos Metal Sonic or whatever the hell the source name was, was also a fun right. A lot of safe spots if you actually attempt to play it safe. And the laser part with the Morphball was cool that you had to "interrupt" him. It kinda irked me though when raocow said it was a "you have to learn it first" moment. There's a lot of things you have to learn, but that was not one of them. Also, Jerry being the surprising hero of the fight is funny.

The stakes get so much higher with the Warship being activated. We have not only Hex himself and the Warmaster, but now they have a giant death machine that can't be penetrated. Plus, the Abomination is still over in The Barrens waiting for Hex to do who knows what with it. We have no less than 4 major world ending threats right here, and you're sent into an area where "game over" is "disabled." You're willing to believe it, if only for a moment. And it's such a cool trick.

And now to catch up with this area: I love the music so much. I can't stop humming it. And that one chest in the first room... I spent an hour looking for it until looking it up in another video. Might've been Brian? But god I took forever.

Good luck with computer issues, raocow. Seems everyone is having computer problems lately.
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Postby jaxter0987 » 3 years ago

Lostsoldier20 wrote:We have no less than 4 major world ending threats right here, and you're sent into an area where "game over" is "disabled." You're willing to believe it, if only for a moment. And it's such a cool trick.
I didn't comment on the Lava Caves earlier but I also agree with this. I legit felt scared of getting a game over. Speaking of which Zephyr maybe you should break the 4th wall some more. When Jeremy says you should save right now if you haven't before that cut scene with Hex, maybe add that you should make a back up of your save, just to enhance the fear.
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Postby ano0maly » 3 years ago

It's pretty ironic that at this point, a single Internetz drop from an enemy will give you more coins than a chest of coin shower in Highlands.

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Postby ZephyrBurst » 3 years ago

Each of those Highlands coins gives about 3 internetz, where 30 coins pop out of the chest.

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Postby Le Neveu de Rameau » 3 years ago

Stupid as it sounds, I found the map description for the falls oddly touching. This entire area seems to be characterized by a sort of nostalgia for a place you've never been. That seems fitting for this series as a whole, I think.

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ZephyrBurst wrote:Each of those Highlands coins gives about 3 internetz, where 30 coins pop out of the chest.
Really? I wasn't aware of that. Was that changed in an update?
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Postby ZephyrBurst » 3 years ago

ano0maly wrote:
ZephyrBurst wrote:Each of those Highlands coins gives about 3 internetz, where 30 coins pop out of the chest.
Really? I wasn't aware of that. Was that changed in an update?
At launch, they gave 1 internet. I believe it was roughly a month or two after release (I think late November (also when a certain unannounced change that hasn't made it in the game yet, started)) that I changed them to 3. It was the same update that I went through and changed nearly all of the chests in the game to award roughly 20% more money.

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Postby NegativeZeroZ » 3 years ago

Le Neveu de Rameau wrote:Stupid as it sounds, I found the map description for the falls oddly touching. This entire area seems to be characterized by a sort of nostalgia for a place you've never been. That seems fitting for this series as a whole, I think.
Fun fact: All of the map names allude to game consoles.
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Postby Le Neveu de Rameau » 3 years ago

Pretty oblique, but neat! Naturally the falls would be the nostalgia machine par excellence.

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Postby NegativeZeroZ » 3 years ago

obligatory "where's today's video" comment

I must say though, this is possibly the best worst funniest possible place for a cliffhanger of epic proportions.
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Postby Lostsoldier20 » 3 years ago

NegativeZeroZ wrote:obligatory "where's today's video" comment

I must say though, this is possibly the best worst funniest possible place for a cliffhanger of epic proportions.
I mean personally, I think it is one of the best places for a cliffhanger.
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Postby SAJewers » 3 years ago

NegativeZeroZ wrote:obligatory "where's today's video" comment

I must say though, this is possibly the best worst funniest possible place for a cliffhanger of epic proportions.
I would've said shutting off the virus, to be honest.
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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby NegativeZeroZ » 3 years ago

Oh yeah raocow, since the Tranquil Serenity is totally going to be tranquil and serene and not at all a Thing, remember to talk to the NPCs in the bot village or An0maly will get mad at you :3 (probably)
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Postby jaxter0987 » 3 years ago

Ah, the header for the Hidden Village was a nice touch. Discombobulated brought back so many good memories... and a few bad ones as well. Absolutely looking forward to the next few episodes now.
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Postby Validon98 » 3 years ago

So, this small part of the game with both Tranquil Serenity and the Discombobulated all one after another is probably my favorite area space zone? Chapter 19, at least the first huge part as a whole, is pretty enjoyable.

Too bad it doesn't last.
Because Mystia's being a big ol' goofball.

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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby NegativeZeroZ » 3 years ago

Glitchy Pixels have my vote for worst enemy design in the game. Thankfully they only exist in two maps, and you aren't forced to fight them.

Giant Blargg was the last joke boss, but not all of them are Things either, and we still have a few of these "exists just to have fun exploring an idea" kind of areas. Zephyr really stuck to that "peaks and valleys" formula with the difficulty curve, all the way to the end.
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Postby jaxter0987 » 3 years ago

Just to clarify the Hidden Village thing:
I like how the header text worked for both times you visit the village with different connotations. The first time you go there, "hah yeah its not so hidden anymore because I no longer have to go through Tranquil Serenity to get here" and then on the second time? "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"
I love Chapter 19.
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Postby Validon98 » 3 years ago

jaxter0987 wrote:Just to clarify the Hidden Village thing:
I like how the header text worked for both times you visit the village with different connotations. The first time you go there, "hah yeah its not so hidden anymore because I no longer have to go through Tranquil Serenity to get here" and then on the second time? "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"
I love Chapter 19.
I never noticed that at first.

And now that I do, I'm kinda even sadder. And angrier. Mostly angry. Doesn't take much for me to really, really, REALLY hate a certain malicious antagonistic bot we all know and "love".
Because Mystia's being a big ol' goofball.

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Re: DT3 - raocow blows up a lot of robots

Postby maou shoujo » 3 years ago

Now that raocow has been to Tranquil Serenity, does John have any new dialogue? The map description said it was made for someone who could never see it, and that is intriguing.
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