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Re: 8th VLDC ~ raocow does a lp of a hacked version of a 1991 game from a company in japan because he can

Postby S.N.N. » 4 years ago

Yeah, cave world is one of the worst. There are a couple of great levels at the end of it, but I can't say I'm a fan of many of the early/middle ones.

Thankfully, you've gotten one of four levels of this difficulty over with.

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ raocow does a lp of a hacked version of a 1991 game from a company in japan because he can

Postby Kerkec » 4 years ago

I did intentionally make the level difficult, though the length of it was slightly less intentional and more of an oversight because I just didn't want to stop making level, I guess

the football bouncing up at 13:05 is something I never experienced in any of the dozens of times I tested everything, so hooray for footballs, I guess?! I don't even know why I went with them other than that I liked the ball replacement

also of note, raocow finally pronounced my name correctly!! history has been made here today

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ raocow does a lp of a hacked version of a 1991 game from a company in japan because he can

Postby FrozenQuills » 4 years ago

Another awesome looking level that's really stressful. What is this, MaGLX2?
Also I absolutely hate the footballs; way too unpredictable as enemies...

EDIT: Just realized Kerkec (who just posted here) made this, but yeah your aesthetics are really fantastic. Too bad that the level's major flaws are in its difficulty and length especially with the footballs.
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ raocow does a lp of a hacked version of a 1991 game from a company in japan because he can

Postby Kerkec » 4 years ago

FrozenQuills wrote:EDIT: Just realized Kerkec (who just posted here) made this, but yeah your aesthetics are really fantastic. Too bad that the level's major flaws are in its difficulty and length especially with the footballs.
thanks, and yeah, I let it get too long and by then I was too attached to what I did to cut anything out
footballs are terrible, but I guess I got too used to them in testing to remember just how terrible they are
(if you try to jump over them while they're coming down from the highest bounce, they're generally manageable, but they're still... not great, and I am sorry)

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby anonymousbl00dlust » 4 years ago

I just wanted to pop in this thread and say that I thought the cake level was really fun.

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby SAJewers » 4 years ago

So, footballs are now worse than line spring thingies. OK then.
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Kerkec » 4 years ago

SAJewers wrote:So, footballs are now worse than line spring thingies. OK then.
don't forget fishing fish guy

someone needs to make a level featuring all three of them for a future project, I'm sure it'll be super fun

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Grounder » 4 years ago

Kerkec wrote:
SAJewers wrote:So, footballs are now worse than line spring thingies. OK then.
don't forget fishing fish guy

someone needs to make a level featuring all three of them for a future project, I'm sure it'll be super fun
what the hell 2 when
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Leet » 4 years ago

Grounder wrote:
Kerkec wrote:
SAJewers wrote:So, footballs are now worse than line spring thingies. OK then.
don't forget fishing fish guy

someone needs to make a level featuring all three of them for a future project, I'm sure it'll be super fun
what the hell 2 when
there was a what the hell 2 tho
Well it is a decent hack but sometime its just too repetitif there no level that actually pop in your face and your like oh yeah that level they all ressemble themselves and just monster along the way.
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Grounder » 4 years ago

Leet wrote: there was a what the hell 2 tho
oh putain de merde when
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby DrTapeworm » 4 years ago

Well it looks like Cakewalk Cavern most certainly wasn't, hahahaha!

The joke is that it is pitchin lotus hell

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ raocow does a lp of a hacked version of a 1991 game from a company in japan because he can

Postby FusionWarrior » 4 years ago

Kerkec wrote:
FrozenQuills wrote:EDIT: Just realized Kerkec (who just posted here) made this, but yeah your aesthetics are really fantastic. Too bad that the level's major flaws are in its difficulty and length especially with the footballs.
thanks, and yeah, I let it get too long and by then I was too attached to what I did to cut anything out
footballs are terrible, but I guess I got too used to them in testing to remember just how terrible they are
(if you try to jump over them while they're coming down from the highest bounce, they're generally manageable, but they're still... not great, and I am sorry)
Honestly this level, while too long and should have been 2 or 3, REALLY makes me look forward to seeing your MaGL X2 level. I certainly LOVE your aesthetic style!
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Gregor » 4 years ago

Kerkec wrote:
SAJewers wrote:So, footballs are now worse than line spring thingies. OK then.
don't forget fishing fish guy

someone needs to make a level featuring all three of them for a future project, I'm sure it'll be super fun
Footballs and Fishing Boos would conflict though, as they share a spot in their GFX files, so you can't just mix it.

You'd have to edit the Football to take up another 16x16 tile. At that point might as well throw in the diagonal Bills, jumping Fish and Volcano Lotuses while using SA-1 to ensure maximum sprite spammage

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby yoshicookiezeus » 4 years ago

Kerkec - Cakewalk Cavern
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CREATIVE USE OF VANILLA RESOURCES: 23/25
APPROPRIATE DIFFICULTY CURVE: 19/25
OVERALL LEVEL QUALITY: 20/25
AESTHETICS: 24/25

OVERALL: 86/100

COMMENTS: I really liked the aesthetic of this level, as well as your use of vanilla gimmicks (e.g. flying fish and the Hammer Bros. platforms), but I found certain parts of the level to be either cramped, or just generally frustrating (after the midpoint especially). I think it could have been a tad shorter overall.

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CREATIVE USE OF VANILLA RESOURCES: 22/25
APPROPRIATE DIFFICULTY CURVE: 18/25
OVERALL LEVEL QUALITY: 20/25
AESTHETICS: 22/25

OVERALL: 82/100

COMMENTS: A few areas were a bit unfair or too cramped (the P-Balloon section comes to mind), but otherwise this was very nicely designed and had some great aesthetics as well. Had some nice spritework and interesting uses of certain enemies, such as the Blurps outside of water.

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Comments: The level has a very cluttered feel to it and it doesn't hide the fact that SMW spikes are just glorified munchers that hurt you from the sides, especially considering how they're placed in the level practically everywhere. The palette plays into this confusion and it can be occasionally difficult to make out what's what with how much goes on at any given time. (Palette 6 looking miscolored is a different matter, but it doesn't help the aesthetic.) It does do some neat things with the moving platforms, but it can't make up for how cluttered the level feels with enemy projectile spam in confined spaces.
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Mata Hari » 4 years ago

DrTapeworm wrote:

The joke is that it is pitchin lotus hell

Confused Charlies and Volcano Loti really are overused. What's up with that.

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby DrTapeworm » 4 years ago

dr_kraid wrote:
DrTapeworm wrote:

The joke is that it is pitchin lotus hell

Confused Charlies and Volcano Loti really are overused. What's up with that.
a) they both spew tons of small projectiles and b) they're in the same sprite set.
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Grounder » 4 years ago

today's levels happened
Why don't you eat me?

I am perfectly tasty...

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby raocow » 4 years ago

in the comments one of the authors of today's levels said that his level has a secret exit but it's not marked as such, is this true ?
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby FrozenQuills » 4 years ago

Whoa raocow don't spoil yourself at the beginning of the video there!
Levels were pretty decent today. What even is that weird glitch in the first level though.
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Mata Hari » 4 years ago

raocow wrote:in the comments one of the authors of today's levels said that his level has a secret exit but it's not marked as such, is this true ?
No he's lying so he gets more video time !!

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby S.N.N. » 4 years ago

There is a secret exit, yes. However, the author made no mention of it upon submitting the level, and the screen exit that supposedly leads to it points to an original vanilla level, so it was never marked.

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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby memnarch » 4 years ago

raocow wrote:in the comments one of the authors of today's levels said that his level has a secret exit but it's not marked as such, is this true ?
Whether or not that's the case, the important thing is is that it doesn't have a check mark. :p
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Ivy » 4 years ago

Me, at the beginning of the cake level: "Kirby music, instant 10/10"
and now I know that kirby music and awesome level aesthetic alone cannot win you top 10... geez
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby Koopster » 4 years ago

I'm pretty sure I saw some guy commenting that on today's video, but in any case...
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Re: 8th VLDC ~ cake level

Postby 10204307 » 4 years ago

As far as "cave levels with lava lotuses and footballmen" goes, I think I liked Lotus Cave Overpass from VLDC7 more. I guess it's 'cause that one was really short, which made the challenge level feel more rewarding. For Cakewalk Cavern, I ended up using savestates because I didn't want to redo the football section over and over again. I will agree that the aesthetics are very nice, though.

Y'know, for a level called "Cave of Wall Springboards", it didn't really use wall springboards all that much, did it?


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