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Postby raocow » 10 months ago

I checked and the one in the most latest post should never expire
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Postby Ivy » 10 months ago

raocow wrote:I checked and the one in the most latest post should never expire
I just used it, works 👌
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Postby SAJewers » 10 months ago

Yeah, it seems to work now.
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Postby Zephyr_DragonLord » 10 months ago

I noticed there was no patreon video on the Mondayscape, and no warning, either here or patazone....

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Postby raocow » 10 months ago

I did say it on the spotzone!
maybe it's not a good place for official announcement then, haha

yeah I didn't have time to record it yesterday because of the marios
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Postby kitikami » 9 months ago

I finally got around to watching another one of these, and apparently Object Dreams is a thing now. I don't know if this one was ever brought up in past videos, but my favorite is the Sherlock Holmes story.

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Postby SAJewers » 8 months ago

ACesspoolofHatred wrote:
Also, someone asked for the point totals? Here they are

Aquaria 80
Ori and the Blind Forest 75
Fly'N 69
Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows 67
Escape Goat 2 64
Psychonauts 48
Dust: An Elysian Tail 46
Hyper Princess Pitch 44
Mischief Maker 43
Super Cat Planet 43
Mega Man: Square Root of Negative One 37
Crash Bandicoot Trilogy 34
Axiom Verge 33
Dynamite Headdy 32
Kirby and the Amazing Mirror 28
Electronic Superjoy 27
Faxanadu 27
Prinny: Can I really be the hero? 27
Hyper Light Drifter 26
DKC Trilogy 25
Odallus: The Dark Call 24
Ittle Dew 22
Super Paper Mario 22
Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams 21
Legend of the Dark Witch 21
Ys Origin 20
Super Time Force 17
Umbrella Adventure 17
Hero 'trilogy' 15
Ys The Oath of Felghana 15
Adventure in the Tower of Flight 14
Mega Man Super Fighting Robot 14
htoL#NiQ: The Firefly Diary 13
Super Metroid 13
Azure Striker Gunvolt 11
Super Mario 3Mix 11
Aero The Acrobat 2 9
Crystalis 9
Rockman 4 Burst Chaser X Air Sliding 9
Ufouria 8
Astro Boy: Omega Factor 7
Cave Story 7
Freedom Fall 7
Mechanic Man 7
Neutopia 6
Rabi-Ribi 6
River City Ransom Underground 6
Blob Wars: Metal Blob Solid 5
Foreverhood 5
Mahou Warrior 5
Nail 'n Scale 5
A Game with a Kitty by origamihero (series, any game from it) 4
Mugen Senshi Valis 3
Mystik Belle 3
Vista Quest Pocket 3
Song of the Deep 2
Super Metroid Redesign 2
Mercenary King 1
Metal Storm 1
Ultimate Chicken Horse 1
Silhouette Mirage 0
AMaPaNi -1
Sonic 2 XL -1
River City Ransom -2
Starbound -7
Mighty No. 9 French -17
Undertale -29

this is all without d's vote because it came TOO LATE for me to count
And so, we move on to #4.
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Re: the 'raocow has a patreon' thread

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 8 months ago

  1. Aquaria
  2. Ori and the Blind Forest
  3. Fly'N
  4. Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows
  5. Escape Goat 2
  6. Psychonauts
  7. Dust: An Elysian Tail
  8. Hyper Princess Pitch
  9. Mischief Makers
  10. Super Cat Planet
  11. Mega Man: Square Root of Negative One
  12. Crash Bandicoot Trilogy
  13. Axiom Verge
  14. Dynamite Headdy
  15. Kirby and the Amazing Mirror
  16. Electronic Superjoy
  17. Faxanadu
  18. Prinny: Can I really be the hero?
  19. Hyper Light Drifter
  20. DKC Trilogy
Decided to rejigger this so it has links to the series on raocow.com, and dropped the point totals because who cares
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Postby SAJewers » 8 months ago

Thanks for that; I'll probably use that next time.
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Postby Parama » 8 months ago

Aquaria is probably gonna be a really disappointing finale to the patapons. It's not a bad game but it's a bit dated and only just decent at best really
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Postby Petzi » 2 months ago

So how's this whole Patreon thing been going for you, raocow? Life been treating you well?
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Postby raocow » 2 months ago

doing pretty well, yeah. I really can't complain! people's generosity have been amazing, and this has enabled me to have three ongoing daily series at once now
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Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

Like the good old days.
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Postby Bean » 2 months ago

This has been one of my favorite years watching your stuff since the old SA days. We were all talking about that in the Discord thing a couple weeks back, but picking a favorite series of yours this year is going to be tough.

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Postby MoneyMan » 2 months ago

Quick question: i just became a patron and was wondering how to get access to the patreon discord. Can anyone point me in the direction of it?

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Postby raocow » 2 months ago

I'mma send you a link
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Postby AlchemistHohenheim » 1 month ago

Oh hey, this seems...important.
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Information on service fee changes for creators

Q: What exactly is the change that's being made?

A: With this update, creators will now take home exactly 95% of every pledge with no additional fees.

In the past, a creator’s income on Patreon varied because of processing fees every month. They could lose anywhere from 7-15% of their earnings to these fees. This means creators actually took home a lower percentage of pledges than their patrons may have realized.

A new service fee of 2.9% + $0.35 will be paid by patrons for each individual pledge starting on December 18th. This restructuring allows creators to take home a greater portion of their earnings, which is core to our mission of getting creators paid.

Q: Why is Patreon doing this now?

A: Patreon exists to allow creators to get paid what they deserve to be paid, for the value they give the world. This is awesome and to continue this vision, we need to constantly evaluate our processes. As we work to deliver bigger and better features for creators and patrons in 2018, we felt like sooner than later made sense to put this change into effect.

Q: How did you determine these rates?

A: We standardized our fees because it helps creators by giving them more clarity and security regarding their earnings. Currently, creators can lose anywhere from 7-15% of their earnings to fees.

This means that on the 1st of each month, creators might see their expected take-home drop. Creators often take home a lower percentage of their Patreon income than patrons may realize. Standardizing our fees across the board provides consistent expectations and more money for creators on Patreon.

Q: What action do I need to take as a creator?

A: As a creator, there are no actions you need to take at this time. The new service fee will be automatically applied to your patrons' pledges starting December 18th. You will see only 5% of earnings taken from your pledges from that date forward.

Q: How does this impact my current pledges?

A: Once changes take effect December 18th, a service fee will be applied to all pending retries and existing pledges.

Q: How does this impact me as a per-post creator?

A: As a per-post creator, your patrons will see the 2.9% + $0.35 service fee added to all paid posts. For example, if you are a per post creator making two paid posts per month, your patrons will be charged 2.9% + $0.35 for each paid post.

Here's the breakdown for a patron pledging $5 to a per-post creator that publishes two paid posts:

Paid Post 1: $5.50
Paid Post 2: $5.50

Patrons still have the option to cap the amount of paid posts they are charged for as noted here. Again, this service fee is standardized from the fees you paid as a creator - we've split between you and your patrons to ensure that you can better estimate your take-home pay.

Q: What do I need to tell my patrons?

A: We are sending notification to patrons about the change so you do not need to send them additional communication. That said, patrons always want to hear from their creators. It can often be helpful for them to hear about the change from you as well. If a patron reaches out to you for more clarity, we’ve prepared a helpful statement you can share with them for more detail:


In the past, I was covering Patreon’s 5% fee and all of the processing fees in full for all of my patrons. This meant that every month I saw anywhere from 7-15% of my earnings taken out to cover those processing fees.

Starting December 18th, Patreon will apply a new service fee of 2.9% + $0.35 to each of your individual pledges. This service fee helps keep Patreon up and running and standardizes my processing fees to 5%.

This ensures that creators like me keep more earnings in order to continue creating high-quality content. I hope you understand and continue your pledges on Patreon. You can read even more about the service fee here.

Q: What if I want to take the hit for my patrons? Can I pay those fees?

A: We understand that some creators might wish to take the hit for their patrons. That said, the service fee will be extended to all patrons on the site and there isn’t an option to remove the service fees from your patron pledges.

The best step is to make sure your patrons are fully educated on the benefits of this change for creators and we’ve made sure to send them notification of this.

Q: If my patrons have questions, where do I point them?

A: If your patrons have questions, we’ve prepared a robust Q+A here so your patrons can get all the information they need. There's a section specific to your patrons below.



Information on the service fee for patrons

Q: What action do I need to take as a patron?

A: As a patron, there are no actions you need to take at this time. The new service fee will be automatically applied to your pledge starting December 18th.

Q: When do the new rates apply to my monthly pledges?

A: The new rates will apply to your monthly pledges starting December 18th so you'll see your first payment with the fee included January 1st, 2018.

Q: When do the new rates apply to my per-creation pledges?

A: If you are pledging to a per post creator, the service fee will be applied to your pending paid posts due during the billing cycle that begins January 1st, 2018. If you delete your pledge to a per post creator after December 18th, you'll see the service fee applied to any pending bills. You can check to see if you have pending bills due here.

Q: How do these service fees help creators on Patreon?

A: This helps creators by giving them more clarity and security regarding their earnings. Currently, creators can lose anywhere from 7-15% of their earnings to processing fees.

This means that on the 1st of the month, creators might see their expected take-home drop. Creators often take home a lower percentage of their Patreon income than patrons may realize. Standardizing our fees across the board provides better expectations and more money for creators on Patreon.

Q: Do I have to pay this new service fee?

A: We have sent advanced notice so that you and all patrons have an opportunity to cancel your pledge if you no longer wish to continue your membership with the updated service fee.

This fee gives creators more security as they can now better estimate their true earnings prior to the end of the month. This is vital for all creators, especially those that use Patreon to support their business full-time.

Q: How much time do I have to change my pledge before the change?

A: You have until December 31st, 2017 to edit a monthly pledge. If you are pledging to a per-creation creator who makes a post between December 18th and December 31st, then you will see the service fee added to those posts.

Q: How can I cancel my pledges?

A: You can find the steps to cancel your pledges here.

Q: Is VAT included in the service fee?

A: Value Added Tax (VAT) is not included in this service fee.

VAT is a consumption-based tax that’s assessed on the value added to goods and services -- including digital. It’s charged as a percentage of price (so on Patreon, a $1.00 pledge with 23% VAT will see an additional cost of .23 cents.)

If you are located in a country that charges VAT, you’ll continue to see this charge and be delivered VAT invoice on the 1st of each month.

For creators, Patreon will continue to remit VAT on your behalf, as described here.

Q: If I use my debit card, are the service fees different?

A: The service is standardized for all payment types, so the rates are the same - even if you use a debit card to pay for your membership.

Q: What other payment options are there for me on Patreon?

A: Patreon will continue to have the option of paying via credit card or Paypal for their memberships. Since the service fee has been standardized, it will remain at 2.9% + $0.35 regardless of their selections.
So this thread is a thing. Maybe check it out.

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Postby kitikami » 1 month ago

It might be a good change to give creators a more reliable estimate of their earnings after fees, but the chart claiming the creators' cut goes up from 80-88% to 95% is nonsense. They aren't necessarily giving creators a larger cut of the money pledged by patrons, they just stopped counting the fees in the denominator. In some cases (especially for creators who rely mostly on small individual donations, where the fee taken out represents a much larger percentage), their income could end up dropping depending on how patrons react to the fees.

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Postby raocow » 1 month ago

yeah I have to say I'm really disapointed with patreon over this. Normally up to now they've been actually kinda alright as far as companies go.

I'm hoping that the very audible backlash makes patreon reconsider this, or make this optional.
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Postby Ivy » 1 month ago

This is definitely designed to consume over a third of the $1 donations that, say, raocow's patrons really like to contribute. Good thing I'm a good boy and give $3.
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Postby SAJewers » 1 month ago

If I did my math right, $1 patrons now pay $16.55 a year, up from the $12.

So $1 patrons do get a bit screwed over, others I believe don't if those people change their pledge to compensate for the change (why this wasn't done alongside i have no idea)
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Postby Jesuiscontent » 1 month ago

I didn't really understand how bad that change is, but do keep in mind there are alternatives like enty.jp (and I'd probably switch if it does turn out to be more worthwhile for the patrons)
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Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 month ago

BOB is an acronym for BOB is Only BOB etc.

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Postby SAJewers » 1 month ago

I posted this on the patreon discord, but I thought this was an interesting take on the entire thing:

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Postby FusionWarrior » 1 month ago

No matter what, rao's patapon is one I'll never drop unless we all move to another platform...

Or I become allowed to just mail checks.
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