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Ditocoaf wrote:

I'm just speaking on principle (I haven't actually played past world 3 yet). If anyone died even once and had to re-play 3 minutes of locked-scrolling landscape that they already proved they can beat, the level has done something bad.

I don't know, the testers/judges didn't seem to have much of a problem with it. This evidence makes me believe that the level's atmosphere and music are conducive to repeated playthroughs of the level (within a reasonable limit).



On topic: World 5 is quite a difficulty spike indeed. Probably slightly harder than the world 6, actually.
Dyin' for an Electrifyin' is pretty good, especially in how it creates a very appropriate atmosphere of danger and tension.
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Really liked the first level. Promising start.
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Validon98 wrote:Dyin' for an Electrifyin' I thought was a decently hard level, but I didn't consider it the hardest in the game, although it was up there sorta kinda? I don't know, I got a little frustrated with it but it was alright in my opinion, definitely more so than a certain level in World 7 whose name I shall not mention that possibly made me the most frustrated ever in the main game.

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Man, world 5 really did not like me when I played through it. That world alone pretty much doubled my demo counter, with almost every stage playing host to like 15-20 of them. That said, Dyin' for an Electrifyin' was... oddly enough, not one of the more problematic stages for me. I figured out how the gimmick worked fairly quickly, and it never really gave me a lot of trouble; I think it may be the first stage in which I had *fewer* demos than raocow. I rather liked it, on the whole.

Also, am I the only one who kept screaming "DON'T DO IT!" upon seeing raocow head for the elevator after exploring the second floor?

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I'll do world 4 favorites (and least favorites) later. Too lazy right now. :P
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Glad to see Serac made it from A2MT. At last one thing got salvaged from that hack, even if she was supposed to be placeholder sprite.

I'll repeat my question from a couple months ago: If Serac is Demo's sister-in-law, which of her brother's did she marry? I doubt it was Science though.

I really don't like the sprite used for his brief playable appearance. It's just a mess in my opinion, and you can't tell what is what, unless you've seen his official artwork. The sprite used in World 4 looked okay, however.
Also, I think Nevada should be a girl. He just looks like one, what with liking flowers, upside down dress, yellow colour scheme, and the name 'Nevada' sounding a little girlish as well.
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much like plants, he's not really either and kind of both at the same time.
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Heheh, that's cool. Do you guys figure that means Nevada is okay with being called a girl, as well as a guy? I mean, it sounds pretty sense-make to me.
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Sturg wrote:
Voltgloss wrote:I can only recall one change made to Dyin' for an Electrifyin' during beta testing: instead of just hurting you, the electrified water was originally an instant kill.
Yeah, so I didn't know how to make it to just hurt you until the winner of MaGLx was played. So I just copied that and changed it.

This level was strange when it came to testing, since like half the people said that they had no trouble playing while the other half complained on how hard it is.
prolly a mix of timing and having difficulty jumping in/out of the water before it starts to shock you. At least, that's what gave me trouble but once I got that figured out the level was easy. also the water flashes way longer then i keep expecting it to, which accoridng to the youtube player is about 3 and a half seconds. Could probably halve the shock duration and reduce waiting time/make the last section easier.
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raocow wrote:much like plants, he's not really either and kind of both at the same time.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably the flower's more in control than the head, so it's not like he has the markings of either male or female. I think. Maybe.
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Validon98 wrote:
raocow wrote:much like plants, he's not really either and kind of both at the same time.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably the flower's more in control than the head, so it's not like he has the markings of either male or female. I think. Maybe.

Well his outfit is kinda colored like the Pokemon Paras....
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Tenlade wrote: Could probably halve the shock duration and reduce waiting time/make the last section easier.
That'd probably make it harder actually since the shock would switch from up and down too fast for players in some places where a player may have to swim in one portion of water for longer than you're suggesting to maneuver through.
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I think they meant that the time the electricity is active should be shortened as opposed to the whole cycle.

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If you shorten the electricity you shorten the cycle since it's apart of the cycle.
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Sturg wrote:If you shorten the electricity you shorten the cycle since it's apart of the cycle.
Shorten the electricity, lengthen the downtime

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If that's what they meant then sure.
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It doesn't surprise me at all to see that raocow (the LPer) used raocow (the character) in his winning run of the second half. I always felt that raocow is best suited for those challenges because of his precision movement capability and speed.
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Hey guys, sorry about posting this late; my little niece had her third birthday today, and I was at the party for a significant amount of the day. Now that I'm back, though, I can talk about my own experiences entering the sprawling urban jungle of Mantreol! But first, there is some business to take care of in the HUB and CoNS.
HUB - Dumbwaiter & Elevator, Second Floor, Laboratory: Wow, that is one tedious elevator. Joke or not, there's no way I'm going to take that over the dumbwaiter any day (unless I ever do an actual LP rather than a text-based play-along). Music is chill, though.

Now, the second floor is full of more cameos and stuff (including one very prospective level contributor), but otherwise is pretty much like the first. However, the laboratory is a pretty neat way to view EoW cutscenes again in case you missed something therein, though being booted back out into the overworld is an unfortunate side effect. I hope there's going to be a way to fix that soon--maybe an update to LunaDLL? In any case, though, it's no big deal.

CoNS - UST and Serac's Ad Spot: Gotta love Serac scoring one for the Talkhaus team. We can always appreciate some more effort and fresh talent here! As for the UST, I don't think that's much of a reward since it's available from the very beginning. Maybe something like those cheats pages and easter egg videos we used to have for ASMBXT before the Talkhaustrophe would've sufficed instead? Eh, I just feel that there could've been something better for our efforts so far, especially since the next door over won't open for a while.

900 Place Des Ormeaux (Demolition): First of all, that's a real place in the title? Man, I sure hope nobody uses this to find and mob raocow in his natural habitat!

Anyway, I thought the intermission with Nevada was pretty cute. Despite him being one of the antagonists for this episode, I can't help but feel happy helping him collect his beloved plants and get home in time for his favorite TV show. Granted, he is a resprite of Iris here, and the next cutscene puts those warm fuzzy thoughts into doubt, but for now he's a nice guy to play as.

Start of World 5 Cutscene: City City Something Something I Don't Know FAT CHILDREN (Demolition): Oh man, Science already has plans to capture Demo and Iris with the help of the other siblings. Too bad Pandamona wasn't meant to be involved here, but what can you do about someone who wears a box? Meanwhile, Nevada turns out to have a rather creepy obsession with eating families and their children. Kinda makes sense, though, since he's a plant-dude; it's probably to pay them back for their eating so many of his own kids.

Dyin' For an Electrifyin' (Sturg): Okay, now to the main event. This stage makes some good use of the electrified water trap and several devious firebars to make for a fast-paced journey through a flooded old building. Of course, there are a few tight spots in the second half where things get a little too hectic (such as the one where you have to both dodge a firebar and get out of the reverse-gravity water before the sparks fly), but otherwise it's an intense level that would be right at home in an action platformer like this. The leek wasn't too hard to get either, especially as Kood. I'd say this is an epic way to start off our city tour.
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All right, I'm feeling not-lazy now, so here's what nobody has been waiting for!

WORLD 4 FAVORITES!

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Favorite: Just Another Screen. It... absolutely didn't fit the world theme whatsoever, but I found it quite enjoyable for what it was. Some very clever puzzles there. I know a lot of people don't like that gimmick, but I've actually never seen it before (outside of the similar ASMBXT stage), so it hasn't gotten "stale" for me or anything, and I found it rather unique.

Runner up: Swimming in the Rain. Because of the Homestuck music and the weird text boxes near the start, I thought this stage was going to be a groaner. Fortunately, it wasn't. It was visually appealing, had an amusing gimmick, and was just generally fun to play.

Least Favorite: Out of Season. While I didn't truly *hate* any stage in world 4, this one was just kinda there. It felt like it was all over the place, really. We've seen the "lowering the ice" gimmick before, the block that switches you to Sheath almost feels like "Schmuck Bait" since unless you go underground, she's just about the *worst* character to use in that stage, and the underground section looks thrown together at the last minute, with the minimal amount of effort put into it. Again: Not a *horrible* stage, just a lackluster one.

As an aside, there really needs to be more backwards shortcuts on the world maps. It's a bit tedious having to walk across the entire map to get back to the hub portal on revisits.
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KobaBeach wrote:
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OH GOD I CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEMOVERSE CANON (AND SO DID TERRY VAN FELEDAY)

I DON'T KNOW HOW I SHOULD FEEL

also raocow forgets Nevada's gender for a few minutes there
ohhh, that's who Serac was! i remember that post now! i was wondering this when I played A2XT and was waiting for her to appear in the LP to get explained.
Sebby19 wrote:I'll repeat my question from a couple months ago: If Serac is Demo's sister-in-law, which of her brother's did she marry? I doubt it was Science though.
or sisters V(0_0)V

(not just because of equality and stuffs but also because i honestly cant see Science, Nevada or Garish marrying anyone. though i guess its always possible.)
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I think Serac married Garish, since he's the least... 'out there', compared to Science and Nevada.
raocow wrote:much like plants, he's not really either and kind of both at the same time.
But most plants DO have genders. Right?
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Sturg wrote:If that's what they meant then sure.
Yeah thats what I meant, shoulda clarified. shorten the shock, extend the downtime so its the same total length as before.
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Sebby19 wrote:
raocow wrote:much like plants, he's not really either and kind of both at the same time.
But most plants DO have genders. Right?
Most have both male and female parts, but other than that, uhh...
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Sebby19 wrote:
But most plants DO have genders. Right?
The gender would depend on whether it uses le or la
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clearly the answer is to press raocow for what specific species of plant Nevada is

just kidding the actual answer is that it doesn't matter at all
Well it is a decent hack but sometime its just too repetitif there no level that actually pop in your face and your like oh yeah that level they all ressemble themselves and just monster along the way.
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ztarwuff wrote:Oh geez. This is the world that made me stop beta-testing. I just didn't enjoy the levels at all. I remember Dr Shemp beta-testing my level angry because of all the levels prior to it.
It wasn't Electrifyin' that made me angry though, it was the next level (and the one after the one after that). Electrifyin' is basically a Crash Bandicoot level and I like Crash Bandicoot. I didn't think it was as hard as some people make out. It seems there's a split here on the best way to deal with the water. I say the best way is to play as Kood and bypass most of the water entirely. Failing that, just count it. I can't be the only one that does this. If something's on a timer, hang back where you're safe and start counting out loud and work out the sequence. Then just keep counting the loop and staying in sync with it so you'll always have the timing down.
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