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Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 12:30
by Slit08
Heh, yeah THUMP is definiately a Thing, but oh well... the ideas are nice at least. You know the saying? Good ideas, poor execution. A few more power-ups might have done wonders.

The first Level in today's Video was very well designed though and not all that difficult. You just Need to stay on your toes.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:13
by SpoonyBardOL
The music from THUMP was giving me fits because I knew I recognized it but I couldn't remember where.

Turns out it's the battle with Macho Grubba from Thousand Year Door. Neat!

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:22
by raocow
talkhaus: a sordid history of putting the best foot forward (the second level is not what I would put as the second level. OH MAN MYSTERIES)

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:30
by SAJewers
Smouldering stones was a neat idea.
Tyrant Bwarch wrote:Noooot looking forward to those. I would hope peeps would know how to handle difficulty by now but eh, it's surprising to see some of the levels concepts people have done even in just the level contests. It's on an individual basis yeah but it's weird how much bad difficulty is present on haus projects.
Apparently one of the issues JUMP is having is that a lot of the levels are way too hard. It's definitely odd.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:33
by KobaBeach
Unaniem wrote:
Unaniem during early MAGLX wrote:Is two videos in the project the new record for earliest drama happening in the corresponding LP thread?
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Next time the drama better start before raocow uploads the first video

I want to see this record being beat

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:38
by raocow
SAJewers wrote:Smouldering stones was a neat idea.
Tyrant Bwarch wrote:Noooot looking forward to those. I would hope peeps would know how to handle difficulty by now but eh, it's surprising to see some of the levels concepts people have done even in just the level contests. It's on an individual basis yeah but it's weird how much bad difficulty is present on haus projects.
Apparently one of the issues JUMP is having is that a lot of the levels are way too hard. It's definitely odd.
To be fair to JUMP, the project started out with the intent of having the early game be roughly 'mid vip' diffuclty or something, for some reason. It just kind of grew from that. The issue is that at some point someone went 'no wait maybe we should do a good game'.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:39
by Validon98
The first level had a pretty neat concept, even if it was a little tricky. THUMP, however, uh... that was... something. I think that was another example of a level that has an interesting gimmick, but both kind of shoves it in your face without much room to practice without dying as well as overstaying its welcome. The entire final section was completely unneeded, to be honest, and to me it just serves as one last "screw you" to anyone playing savestateless. I don't think the gimmick is an unusable one, definitely. It was just poorly executed in this level.
I do have to admit the Ire treasure was funny, though.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 13:51
by Menshay
KobaBeach wrote:Next time the drama better start before raocow uploads the first video

I want to see this record being beat
M vs X?

Also all those earthquakes were visually annoying. And what was the context to that ghost guy?

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:00
by S.N.N.
Horikawa Otane wrote:Give raocow ips files for the levels that are known to break so he can play them separately?
Yeah, I think that was the plan.

This also means that raocow needs to play jesus's/anonymousbl00dlust's level. No exceptions. He worked on that thing for 3-4 years.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:03
by Bwarch
Oh he intends to.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14709&p=217611#p217611

Like a hero.

And because he's totally going to ace it and have no problems whatsoever. Yep.

Definitely not going to be any problems.

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Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:09
by Tatrion
Speaking as a totally not-talkhaus person, this game probably would have benefited from removing lives. Not that it really matters in its half-finished state, I suppose...

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:10
by S.N.N.
@Bwarch:
Oh, that's great news. As someone who tested it fully, I'm looking forward to the 12 hour recording session (minimum) that will result from it.
Tatrion wrote:this game probably would have benefited from removing lives.
Almost all games past like 1999 could benefit from having their lives removed, if we're being honest.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:12
by AUS
Tatrion wrote:Speaking as a totally not-talkhaus person, this game probably would have benefited from removing lives. Not that it really matters in its half-finished state, I suppose...
It basically did?
I mean. What does gameovering cost you?

Literally only the midpoint. I think that's fair.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:13
by raocow
I used to be a prononent of keeping them but.. yeah. It's an antiquated idea.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:26
by pholtos
My LPing side did not like the thump level.

I love how little I always have to say in these threads.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:28
by Window Squeegee
I think that the concept in Smoldering Stones was pretty cool (was that a reverse pun?) and the one in THUMP (BEST NAME EVER) could have maybe been done a little better. After all, raocow has already died 100 times on the 2nd installment.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:50
by Dragon Fogel
KobaBeach wrote:
Unaniem wrote:
Unaniem during early MAGLX wrote:Is two videos in the project the new record for earliest drama happening in the corresponding LP thread?
likereallyguys.png
Next time the drama better start before raocow uploads the first video

I want to see this record being beat
It did, though! It started before raocow even picked a game to play. It's just that Unaniem is using the technicality of "in the corresponding LP thread".

I think at this point, the only way to beat the record is to have drama over a game before it's even in development at all.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:54
by KingTwelveSixteen
KobaBeach wrote:
Unaniem wrote:
Unaniem during early MAGLX wrote:Is two videos in the project the new record for earliest drama happening in the corresponding LP thread?
likereallyguys.png
Next time the drama better start before raocow uploads the first video

I want to see this record being beat
Ha, shows what you know. This game was causing drama before raocow was even done deciding to play it! :P

Nothing's gonna beat that record (hopefully).

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:58
by KobaBeach
KingTwelveSixteen wrote:Ha, shows what you know. This game was causing drama before raocow was even done deciding to play it! :P
well geez srry for not being omniscient like omg so rude

(jk i♥u)
Dragon Fogel wrote:I think at this point, the only way to beat the record is to have drama over a game before it's even in development at all.
Talkhaus the Visual Novel?

I don't think that got past the drawing board and some dialogue that Aposke wrote.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:59
by Alice
Dragon Fogel wrote:I think at this point, the only way to beat the record is to have drama over a game before it's even in development at all.
I'm pretty sure the talkhaus visual novel had that issue.

Edit:
KobaBeach wrote:Talkhaus the Visual Novel?
Crap, like thirty seconds late on that.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 15:00
by Frozelar
Okay wow I never realized just how high we were aiming with A2MT. Like, there's a TON of awesome-seeming things in it that I didn't even know were possible (well I guess anything is possible with ASM but still), like the treasure system and changing the level names' colors.

I think all the A2MT-ers deserve a big pat on the back for as far as it got even though it wasn't finished. Like, wow.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 15:11
by Ometeotl
I remember playing THUMP. It was just as hard, though I didn't go out of my way to get the coins or treasure.

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 15:19
by Voltgloss
In THUMP, it looked like raocow was supposed to hit an up-arrow at the end of the P-switch run, which I assume would have eventually led to the "correct" exit. How much more punishmentcontent was there after that up-arrow?

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 15:20
by BeatBoxingBoo
Has anyone else noticed how freaking tinny the sound effects (jumping, coins, etc) are? Is that in the rom, or is it just raocow's videos?

Re: A Second Mario Thing: SNN and alex2's little baby

Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 15:30
by Willhart
THUMP has a tas made for it that is over three years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfivGVcdHno