AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - One last map to go through in space
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Whoahoahoa, everything worked out exactly as planned!
For future reference, I added the locations of the missing pages: https://talkhaus.raocow.com/viewtopic.p ... 06#p491106
Life Goes On is my favorite level that I've designed for the collab. The gimmick of death-platforming was inspired by the gameplay in Life Goes On: Done to Death, which was LPed by raocow a few years ago. In fact, it's one of several levels that I ended up making for AAT that were inspired by console/indie games that I've played, rather than being influenced by other SMW hacks or emulating a particular SMW hacker's level design style. Since replaying parts of the level over and over again is inherent to the gimmick, I tried to keep things short so that it doesn't overstay its welcome. It's possible to die to the shell in midair near the end, but it's tricky without accidentally pulling off a shell jump instead (the one time it is easy to do). And yes, the level also accounts for when the player is Iris. We can't forget about the green one.
A Dream of Green Apples gives off a lot of ASMT vibes - one reason is that it has the same music speed up silliness as PANIC PUZZLE. I think the choice of palettes also helps sell it, and a lot of Catabo's other levels do similar things with colors (e.g., get down and Red Radish).
Life Goes On is my favorite level that I've designed for the collab. The gimmick of death-platforming was inspired by the gameplay in Life Goes On: Done to Death, which was LPed by raocow a few years ago. In fact, it's one of several levels that I ended up making for AAT that were inspired by console/indie games that I've played, rather than being influenced by other SMW hacks or emulating a particular SMW hacker's level design style. Since replaying parts of the level over and over again is inherent to the gimmick, I tried to keep things short so that it doesn't overstay its welcome. It's possible to die to the shell in midair near the end, but it's tricky without accidentally pulling off a shell jump instead (the one time it is easy to do). And yes, the level also accounts for when the player is Iris. We can't forget about the green one.
A Dream of Green Apples gives off a lot of ASMT vibes - one reason is that it has the same music speed up silliness as PANIC PUZZLE. I think the choice of palettes also helps sell it, and a lot of Catabo's other levels do similar things with colors (e.g., get down and Red Radish).
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
Life Goes On is a super neat level, I thought I wouldn't like it when I first saw the central mechanic involved a lot of repetition, but it's pretty creative with what it does and nothing takes to long to do. Really nice.
"Who said we are satisfied?"
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
The Perkinje Tree Ruins: Fantastic level. Just... All of it. Teleporting inside the moving blocks used to make fun graphics, but maybe that doesn't happen anymore.
The real La Mulana starts here.
Temporal House: The real Llama Llama starts here. This is good town for the endgame. It has the classic top secret area powerups and 15 lives. Maybe lives aren't as fast as playing football, but pretty quick if you just want a few.
A Dream of Green Apples: I had a pretty tough time with this level. If the coins were colored in the beta, I didn't pick up on their meaning. I did really enjoy the first half, but the second half was rough for me.
(End of 40, start of 41): You now have all of the information the game provides, but there is still some solving to do. So I guess you could say the line.
Life Goes On: I'm so glad that this is a real gimmick. I definitely went overkill with, well, killing myself much more than necessary - I had a complete path over the lava and to the ledge for the secret exit, for example. Despite that, I still had a good time.
The real La Mulana starts here.
Temporal House: The real Llama Llama starts here. This is good town for the endgame. It has the classic top secret area powerups and 15 lives. Maybe lives aren't as fast as playing football, but pretty quick if you just want a few.
A Dream of Green Apples: I had a pretty tough time with this level. If the coins were colored in the beta, I didn't pick up on their meaning. I did really enjoy the first half, but the second half was rough for me.
(End of 40, start of 41): You now have all of the information the game provides, but there is still some solving to do. So I guess you could say the line.
Life Goes On: I'm so glad that this is a real gimmick. I definitely went overkill with, well, killing myself much more than necessary - I had a complete path over the lava and to the ledge for the secret exit, for example. Despite that, I still had a good time.
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
so I decided to transcribe all the hints on paper to make it easier to look at while recording, and by opting to put similar things together I think I raocow'd it
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the chillaxest of dragons
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
Paper notes, just like we used to do in the 90s
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
amazing how much easier these things are when you take literal pen and paper to them (or a lot of screenshots and mspaint)
Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
ruh oh, I've been found out!
So since others have pointed out their secret areas, I'll reveal mine before you start (feel free to do it after beating the level):
Try falling in the very first pit you see in the level. Preferably to the left.
So since others have pointed out their secret areas, I'll reveal mine before you start (feel free to do it after beating the level):
Try falling in the very first pit you see in the level. Preferably to the left.
My YouTube channel - P-Switch... - 100 Rooms of Enemies: The Nightmare Edition
Links above if you want to check 'em out... or not, since these are overlooked.
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
Today's Music
Life Goes On:
Life Goes On:
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - Like what the heck is this? Like I just had NO way through, really.
toilet music ass. i think i barely realized this was from new soup. life goes on is a terrific level and i think psi ninja deserves the crown and the queen's hand in marriage
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It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
- ultratowel112
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - That's the thing with mega spikes: they're beautiful, but they hurt.
Who put Touhou in my hack??: I enjoyed this level a lot. Like I said with Bad Day at the Garden, dodging around the projectiles and finding safe areas is fun. This level has homing spheres which add interest and keep up the excitement.
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - That's the thing with mega spikes: they're beautiful, but they hurt.
Today's Music
Who put Touhou in my hack?:
Who put Touhou in my hack?:
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - That's the thing with mega spikes: they're beautiful, but they hurt.
im trying my hardest to not say bad things about hooded edge because i dont want to be toxic and it's very hard every time
if you think. don't #Wisconsin (avatar by my buddy ronan (leomon32))
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It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
MaGL Patch Collection / steam / backlog
It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - That's the thing with mega spikes: they're beautiful, but they hurt.
I personally DM with hooded, and can confirm he's a chill dude.
If anything, blame me for motivating him back in like 2019 or so.
If anything, blame me for motivating him back in like 2019 or so.
My YouTube channel - P-Switch... - 100 Rooms of Enemies: The Nightmare Edition
Links above if you want to check 'em out... or not, since these are overlooked.
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - That's the thing with mega spikes: they're beautiful, but they hurt.
oh nah im not saying he's a bad person, rest assured, even if the hypeman vibes can get too much. i just want him to stop using michael jackson samples and the same fm synth riffs on everything
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It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is "Crazy Thwomps will Destroy the World" Land
Today's Music
The Crash at Craigdarroch Castle:
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a ... s&id=23969
The Crash at Craigdarroch Castle:
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a ... s&id=23969
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is "Crazy Thwomps will Destroy the World" Land
Puzzle: At this point, I wrote out just what I needed from the cipher in order. This was just to save a little bit of time looking at my notes, it had no bearing on the solution. Ignore that I wrote DEAD instead of D3AD when doing this.
The Crash at Craigdarroch Castle: This is a fun level. I very much enjoy the new the thwomp behaviour. Having some (all?) of the pits be reset instead of death is very friendly - not necessary for this late in the game, but appreciated.
The Crash at Craigdarroch Castle: This is a fun level. I very much enjoy the new the thwomp behaviour. Having some (all?) of the pits be reset instead of death is very friendly - not necessary for this late in the game, but appreciated.
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is "Crazy Thwomps will Destroy the World" Land
Why did the dry bones replacements end up being different in smw and smbx. I designed the smbx ones and I don't even rember why it was lol
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is "Crazy Thwomps will Destroy the World" Land
i like the smbx ones more because they're not amorphous.
wait
amorb ius. #sus
anyway amorphous slime creatures but honestly it's just due to the inability to change the hitbox of smbx's sprites and how it had the smb3 proportions which are a wide load compared to the slim smw ones
wait
amorb ius. #sus
anyway amorphous slime creatures but honestly it's just due to the inability to change the hitbox of smbx's sprites and how it had the smb3 proportions which are a wide load compared to the slim smw ones
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It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
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It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is "Crazy Thwomps will Destroy the World" Land
I bought the castle from Craigslist. It had a previous owner.
My YouTube channel - P-Switch... - 100 Rooms of Enemies: The Nightmare Edition
Links above if you want to check 'em out... or not, since these are overlooked.
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is the North Pole, it's just the artist doesn't know what the North Pole is ab
You solved the puzzle! What will One Last Thing contain?
A Shopping Mall Thing: Beautiful level, top-tier QoL ASM and layout. The NPCs really help the place feel alive.
dish dish dish: dishdishdishdishdish Nicely focused, good length, great "Bowser's Castle" room.
Michigan Left: I don't know if there were any changes from the beta, but I remember this one causing me a lot more trouble than it caused rao. But otherwise, another great room sized mini level.
Where the Hell: I think this one took me more time than any other mall room? Fitting for what it is referencing. It's maybe a little long for a room, but it's definitely shorter than an actual level. It feels good to get it all down in one run.
A Shopping Mall Thing: Beautiful level, top-tier QoL ASM and layout. The NPCs really help the place feel alive.
dish dish dish: dishdishdishdishdish Nicely focused, good length, great "Bowser's Castle" room.
Michigan Left: I don't know if there were any changes from the beta, but I remember this one causing me a lot more trouble than it caused rao. But otherwise, another great room sized mini level.
Where the Hell: I think this one took me more time than any other mall room? Fitting for what it is referencing. It's maybe a little long for a room, but it's definitely shorter than an actual level. It feels good to get it all down in one run.
Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is the North Pole, it's just the artist doesn't know what the North Pole is ab
michigan left implies the existence of either a michigan stayed or a michigan right
Why don't you eat me?
I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!
I am perfectly tasty...
AND I'LL STEAL YOUR SOUL!
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is the North Pole, it's just the artist doesn't know what the North Pole is ab
#KnowingSmile
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It is the Year 2000X. The raocow fandom has destroyed the Vatican and Square-Enix
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is the North Pole, it's just the artist doesn't know what the North Pole is ab
oh today's a fun one. Clerk (yes, that is his name) is our favorite character we came up with. he also got designed surprisingly late--for a good bit, we just had his dialogue! we thought the idea of "weird, freaky abstract guy in a comically mundane situation, and it turns out he's just like, A Guy" was REALLY funny, so we just rolled with it.
below is our OG concept art for the guy. as you can tell, a LOT of inspiration from yume nikki stuff in making him so gnarly looking.
below is our OG concept art for the guy. as you can tell, a LOT of inspiration from yume nikki stuff in making him so gnarly looking.
"dingus prime, the alpha and omega of utter spoons"
~camwoodstock | she/he (genderfluid) | | &: Tori (she/her) | The Wall of Turner
~camwoodstock | she/he (genderfluid) | | &: Tori (she/her) | The Wall of Turner
- SAJewers
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Re: AND ANOTHER THING (aat / a3mt) - This is the North Pole, it's just the artist doesn't know what the North Pole is ab
Fun Dev Note about the Mall:
Initially, I had ripped the graphics from an old Browser game called Mega Mall Madness for the store fronts (the walls/floor/ceiling/etc were partially edited graphics from a Shop Empire 2 rip on spriters-resource). Later on, Bumpty came through and drew up all custom assets for the entire thing. Also, the first 2 screens are in fact a nod to the final castles in asmt and a2mt
eidt: oh, also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_tennis
Initially, I had ripped the graphics from an old Browser game called Mega Mall Madness for the store fronts (the walls/floor/ceiling/etc were partially edited graphics from a Shop Empire 2 rip on spriters-resource). Later on, Bumpty came through and drew up all custom assets for the entire thing. Also, the first 2 screens are in fact a nod to the final castles in asmt and a2mt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_left
eidt: oh, also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_tennis