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[POLL] List of Global Graphic Changes (in progress)

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[POLL] List of Global Graphic Changes (in progress)

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FOR SOME REASON, A POLL WOULDN'T WORK, SO PLEASE READ THE POLL I POSTED ON PAGE 16 AND DO AS INSTRUCTED!!! THANK YOU


Here is a list of all sprites that are changed as global changes for the hack.
Level specific sprites aren't included. That is, if you have sprites that you want to use in your level, feel free. They just aren't added to this list.

Also, please bear in mind that a lot of sprites on this list are still being worked on.

If you want to contribute to any sprite that's not yet in the list, please use the Sprite Changes topic.
Latest Update
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Not all sprites in here are official yet, but this is so you know that there is at least one suggestion been made.


Characters
Mario -> Demo INSERTED
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Yoshi (good guy) -> ?
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Enemy Sprites
Banzai Bill -> ? INSERTED
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Big Boo -> ?
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Blargg -> Yellow Submarine INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKE64ZZ5MxI

Bob-omb -> Lightbulb
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Bony Beetle -> GooMouse (?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxOe5a4oGKA

Boo # 1-> Spy boos INSERTED
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Boo # 2 -> Smug boo
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Bouncing football -> Baby Yoshi
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Bowser Statues -> Frogs INSERTED
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Bullet bill (horizontal/vertical) -> Mohawk Bill INSERTED
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Bullet bill (diagonal) -> ? INSERTED
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Buzzy Beetle -> ? INSERTED
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Cheep Cheep -> ? INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0e6mH6Hohg

Dolphin -> Genie
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DryBones -> DryGoo (?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxOe5a4oGKA

Eerie -> ? INSERTED
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Fishin' Boo -> Fishing Fish Guy
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Flying Hammer Bro -> Octobro INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvHVPHfna9Y

Fuzzy -> Neckbeard INSERTED
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Goomba -> ? INSERTED
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Hopping Flame -> Evil Flame INSERTED
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Magic koopa -> Black Mage INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjeYy10JJe8

Mechakoopa -> Pumpkin Guy INSERTED
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Mega Mole -> Shopping Cart
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Monty Mole -> Walking Lips
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Munchers -> Yoshi Munchers
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Ninji -> ? INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kThodSbq ... re=channel

Podobo -> ? INSERTED
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Pokey -> Donut Pokey
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Rex -> Charlie Horse INSERTED
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Rip van Fish -> Rip van Chick INSERTED
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Saw -> Fork with Spaghetti
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Spiney -> Flamey Guy INSERTED
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Sumobro -> Kyonshi INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEL-BpX ... re=channel

Torpedo Ted -> ? INSERTED
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Thwimp -> ? INSERTED
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Thwomp -> ? INSERTED
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Wiggler -> Chiggler
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Other Sprites
Diagonal Platform -> Lime platform
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Dragon coin -> raocoin INSERTED
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Note Block -> Tofu Man Note Block
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P-Balloon -> Hamburger
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P-switch (blue/silver)-> P
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Parachutes -> Balloons
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Timed Platforms -> Lemon Platforms
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Trampoline -> Green Ball
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Triangle -> Watermelon
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Wooden spikes -> death pencils
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Power-ups
Mushroom -> Radish INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnA4M2g ... re=channel

Flower -> Cactus INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnA4M2g ... re=channel

Feather -> Pop-corn INSERTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnA4M2g ... re=channel

Star -> Leek INSERTED
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Sprites that still need to be changed:

Enemies: look here and compare with the list
Others:
-What is not yet on the list and you think should be changed.


Things we scratched:
-Mario rex. Mario doesn't quite fit in with the story so far.


IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, LET ME KNOW
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I had eyeball pokeys as an alternative to the boxes of whatever since I don't think people were happy with them? Boxes were around first, though, so they get first stab at the swap

Also you should have called it "Global Graphic Changes" so we could include other stuff without people - I mean YCZ - going BUT THAT'S NOT A SPRITE
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Of course, if they're not used globally but someone else would still like to use them in a level feel free to use them. Or improve them

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Someone made these for the traffic lights (page 18)

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Latest Update
-Updated pokey pictures
-changed topic name to global Graphic Changes due to object/sprites differences

Thanks for pointing these things out to me :)
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There was an alternative to monty mole and goomba from Oracle of wuffing, though it may not apply for a global change:

OoW's bobgoomba:
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OoW's marisamole:
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Also he changed the coins to stars. Most people seem unwilling to change the coins. Personally i'd be for it but oh well.


Also can i make a suggestion: To keep this topic from getting cluttered and need searching, how about we keep everything in the first post by Kilon, but then delete any suggestions we make once they have been fulfilled. That way it'll be easy to keep track of if anything else needs to be done, and that sort of thing.
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The first post should be so you don't have to sift through the clutter. The clutter itself wouldn't matter
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Kil wrote:Someone made these for the traffic lights (page 18)

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Hop down to this post, as that pokey graphic is kinda impossible to implement due to pixels being pixels and that link will take you to the actual "Possible" graphics\.
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Oh yeah i didn't notice that...That version but without all the little black pixels is the suggestion then.
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On page 22, 3rd post from the top, I left a post with an updated version of the edited wiggler graphic and a edited swooper graphic...(that, by this list, makes me think no one really payed attention too...sadface)
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So let me ask it here, are the cement blocks going to have a global, more square change? I'm kind of counting on this being the case.

Also are all the muncher plants going to be yoshi plants, or was that just for that one castle?
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muncher yoshis are global
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Latest Update
-Added munchers -> Yoshi Munchers
-Added 3rd suggestion for Goomba

@flameofdoubt: I added the Goomba as option, but I really don't like Marisa's head as a Mega Mole. the first time I saw it, I thought it was some sort of object. That would make more sense. But if more people want it added as suggestion, I won't hesitate to add it.

@Tim: I'm not adding anything until it is either an image or a video. Sorry, but that's how I decided to do it. Maybe I should have made that more clear. Maybe Fawriel can add that to the OP of the sprite Changes topic (just like a link to this topic)

@Argumentable: I don't think that could do much harm when you slightly upgrade those graphics. I don't think you should change it completely though.
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kilon wrote:@flameofdoubt: I added the Goomba as option, but I really don't like Marisa's head as a Mega Mole. the first time I saw it, I thought it was some sort of object. That would make more sense.
Would you still think it was some sort of object if you saw it moving like a Mega Mole? That is, uh, if you had seen it in a video as opposed to a picture. Also, should The Noid Lakitu be on the list? I know some people don't like it 'cause it's not original, but the list already has Zangief Neckbeard and Mega Man Bullet Bills, so that's kind of a funny distinction to make. It's kinda running unopposed, though maybe I'll do a soda machine instead if I get the time.

By the by, something I've been meaning to ask for a while, what exactly do you mean by "Graphics for savestations"?
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Since Charles' Castle is going to consist of as many levels as we have people who wants to contribute them, it is obviously going to be a very long level, and unreasonable to do completely savestateless. Therefore, that level will have some kind of "save points" where raocow can put a savestate, and the save point will need some kind of graphics. Personally, I was thinking about something along the lines of the Super Metroid save points, but we haven't decided anything yet.
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How big is a scene for a background in SMW?
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Ahrimhan wrote:muncher yoshis are global
the muncher yoshis were map16s that imitate munchers, as we can't change the palette of existing blocks

IOW, we have regular munchers at the beginning and then introduce the muncher yoshis to catch raocow off-guard
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Kincyr wrote:
Ahrimhan wrote:muncher yoshis are global
the muncher yoshis were map16s that imitate munchers, as we can't change the palette of existing blocks
The muncher yoshis use the unused second half of the original muncher palette, so that is not a problem.
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yoshicookiezeus wrote:
Kincyr wrote:
Ahrimhan wrote:muncher yoshis are global
the muncher yoshis were map16s that imitate munchers, as we can't change the palette of existing blocks
The muncher yoshis use the unused second half of the original muncher palette, so that is not a problem.
Isn't there some Muncher Temple, though, that relies on the regular version? I'd thought it was for this hack, unless I was mistaken. If it's at a reasonable place on the map, could every Muncher before it be regular? Or, alternatively, every muncher AFTER the Yoshi-based level could be the Yoshi version? How will it work?
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I believe in YCZ's level, the munchers are considered very ancient, so I guess the original munchers only survived in that temple.
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AnimeRules wrote:I believe in YCZ's level, the munchers are considered very ancient, so I guess the original munchers only survived in that temple.
Is that a return of the Muncher Ghosts perchance?
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Yah, omnomnom.
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Latest Update
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The Charlie Horse looks like this actually.
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What exactly is the difference with this?
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The only thing I can see is the completely squashed charlie horse.
if you really want to, I can replace it though.
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The half squashed Charlie Horse is different.
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