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Mafia Game 2 - Game Ended - Post Discussion

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Mafia Game 2 - Game Ended - Post Discussion

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

Mafia Game 2 - Day 0
Players
  • 8flight
  • bbbrrr_it_cold
  • Holy
  • Ignoritus
  • pholtos
  • RedMageSusie
  • Sorel
  • Sturg
  • Supershroom
Setup
  • 1 Mafia Goon
  • 1 Mafia Special
  • 5 Townies
  • 2 Town Special
During the Pregame, the Mafia select one of the following roles to replace a random Goon's:
  • Mafia Strongman
  • Mafia Godfather
  • Mafia Ninja
Then, during Day 0, via majority vote, all players choose which of the following roles replace two random Townies':
  • Cop
  • Tracker
  • Watcher
  • Roleblocker
  • Doctor
During Night 0, new roles are distributed as necessary and play proceeds as normal. *(Townies do not receive a role PM)
Please submit votes in

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Full information can be found here: Scales of Justice

*I accidentally edited over this, if any information is missing let me know.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Sturg » 2 years ago

As far as townie abilities go, I think the tracker/watcher would definitely make things interesting. I'd vote for either of those two with a doctor/cop combination.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby RedMageSusie » 2 years ago

I'd go with doctor & tracker
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Supershroom » 2 years ago

"Tracker" = tracks active visits, "Watcher" = tracks passive visits, right?

The Tracker is much stronger than the Watcher, he can almost serve as a sheriff if he picks the right people. The Roleblocker would have to find the only special mafia, so he's basically worthless on the town's side.

I'd go with Tracker and Doctor.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

from the wiki:
  • The Tracker learns who a player targeted, but not what action that player performed.
  • The Watcher learns who targeted a player, but not what actions were performed on them.

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby bbbrrr_it_cold » 2 years ago

Tracker and Watcher also sound really interesting to me. I like Strug's suggestion of doing one of them and either Cop or Doctor. Statistically speaking, the mafia is less likely to pick Godfather since it only deals with one of the Townie roles whereas the other options both deal with two. As such, Cop seems like a statistically smart choice for town. But, on the other hand, Doctor is a powerful role that can't be ignored. Hmm...
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

I misunderstood the rules of this setup, mafia's role will not be revealed. See this game by the author

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  • Cop = RedMageSusie, Supershroom, 8flight
  • Tracker = RedMageSusie, Supershroom
  • Watcher =
  • Roleblocker = 8flight
  • Doctor =
  • No Vote = bbbrrr_it_cold, Holy, Ignoritus, pholtos, Sorel, Sturg, Voltgloss
I would appreciate if everyone at least responded during day 0 so I know everyone is aware of what the roles will be, even if they do not wish to place votes.

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Voltgloss » 2 years ago

I'm unclear on two rules:

- Has the Mafia already picked their special role? I.e., that's already locked in before the town concludes voting on its special roles?
- If a Mafia Strongman performs a kill, and they are Roleblocked, does the kill happen or not?
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Voltgloss » 2 years ago

Supershroom wrote: The Roleblocker would have to find the only special mafia, so he's basically worthless on the town's side.
I'm not sure I understand this comment either. If the Mafia Goon performs the kill, and is Roleblocked, doesn't that also prevent the kill?
I get that Roleblocker has some potential disutility if it accidentally blocks the other town role.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby bbbrrr_it_cold » 2 years ago

I believe Strongman gets through everything - it expressly states that nothing the town can do would stop it, and I assume that includes role-blocking. Otherwise, I would imagine that the Roleblocker blocking the Mafia Goon would work if the Goon was the one doing the killing (such as if the Mafia chose Ninja or Strongman, but said role already died).
In any case, I think I'm going to stick with voting Cop and Tracker, at least for now.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

Voltgloss wrote: I'm unclear on two rules:

- Has the Mafia already picked their special role? I.e., that's already locked in before the town concludes voting on its special roles?
- If a Mafia Strongman performs a kill, and they are Roleblocked, does the kill happen or not?
Mafia picks their role before town picks theirs. They do not get to pick based on what the town picks, just as the town doesn't get to pick based on the Mafia.

The only things that can stop a Strongman are actions that remove the player from their house (alien, hider) rollblocker will not stop a strongman. But it will stop a Mafia Goon, Godfather, and Ninja. Doctor can not stop a Strongman Either

Similarly Watcher/Tracker will not work against the Ninja, and Cop will not work against the Godfather.


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  • Cop = RedMageSusie, Supershroom, 8flight, bbbrrr_it_cold
  • Tracker = RedMageSusie, Supershroom, bbbrrr_it_cold
  • Watcher =
  • Roleblocker = 8flight
  • Doctor =
  • No Vote = Holy, Ignoritus, pholtos, Sorel, Sturg, Voltgloss

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Voltgloss » 2 years ago

The vote tally seems wrong? I thought RedMageSusie and supershroom both voted for doctor/tracker, not cop/tracker.

Can the doctor or watcher target themselves?
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

Voltgloss wrote: The vote tally seems wrong? I thought RedMageSusie and supershroom both voted for doctor/tracker, not cop/tracker.

Can the doctor or watcher target themselves?
None of the roles can self-target.
  • Cop = 8flight, bbbrrr_it_cold, Voltgloss
  • Tracker = bbbrrr_it_cold, RedMageSusie, Supershroom
  • Watcher =
  • Roleblocker = 8flight
  • Doctor = RedMageSusie, Supershroom, Voltgloss
  • No Vote = Holy, Ignoritus, pholtos, Sorel, Sturg, Voltgloss
double checked list, should be right as of now
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Voltgloss » 2 years ago

Vote: Cop/Doctor.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby pholtos » 2 years ago

I think doc and watcher.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Holy » 2 years ago

I think cop/doctor is an alright combo. Cop I think we should def pick, that's a super strong role.

Doctor I'm iffier on, because if the maf pick the strongman than we might as well not have a doc. Plus it always seems like it's tough for the doc to figure out who to try and save.

Tracker/watcher are interesting, yeah, but are they really that helpful just by themselves? Right now I'll vote cop/doc

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Sturg » 2 years ago

I vote cop/tracker
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

Ignoritus wrote:
Sorel wrote:
Please place your votes. You may abstain if you want, but post in the thread so we know you are active and paying attention to the game.
  • Cop (5) = 8flight, bbbrrr_it_cold, Voltgloss, Holy, Sturg
  • Tracker (4) = bbbrrr_it_cold, RedMageSusie, Supershroom, Sturg
  • Watcher (1) = pholtos
  • Roleblocker (1) = 8flight
  • Doctor (5) = RedMageSusie, Supershroom, Voltgloss, pholtos, Holy
  • No Vote = Ignoritus, Sorel

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Sorel » 2 years ago

Cop and Tracker make for a good combo.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

Ignoritus wrote:
~1 day until I'm ending the vote

If the vote remains tied how it is, I will randomly select between the two. Feel free to change your votes however you see fit.
  • Cop (6) = 8flight, bbbrrr_it_cold, Voltgloss, Holy, Sturg, Sorel
  • Tracker (5) = bbbrrr_it_cold, RedMageSusie, Supershroom, Sturg, Sorel
  • Watcher (1) = pholtos
  • Roleblocker (1) = 8flight
  • Doctor (5) = RedMageSusie, Supershroom, Voltgloss, pholtos, Holy
  • No Vote = Ignoritus

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Ignoritus » 2 years ago

i vote tracker and cop
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Day 0

Postby Supershroom » 2 years ago

We need a replacement. May he rest in peace, and good luck on any of his future endeavors.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Night 1

Postby Tain » 2 years ago

Game 2 - Night 1
Supershroom wrote: We need a replacement. May he rest in peace, and good luck on any of his future endeavors.
replacement for who?

Roles have been assigned. Ignoritus has pushed Cop and Tracker to the top of the list, so those are the two townie roles in play.

Night 1 has started!

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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Night 1

Postby Supershroom » 2 years ago

Well, nevermind.
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Re: Mafia Game 2 - Night 1

Postby Supershroom » 2 years ago

When does the night end?
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