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Dethy Classic Mafia Day 3

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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia (0/5) Signups

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only one mafia, and limited to 5? wut
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia (0/5) Signups

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Hell to the yes! I'm in.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia (0/5) Signups

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Oh man, talkhaus mafia! So nostalgic... I haven't played in a long, long time, but count me in.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia (0/5) Signups

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this sounds really dumb and I want to play it
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia (0/5) Signups

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I'm down for this, it's been a little while since I had last seen this game in action on another forum.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia (0/5) Signups

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i guess i'll jump in if only for the novelty
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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I investigated Whimsical and turned up INNOCENT.

Case 1:
I'm sane. Whimsical is innocent.

Case 2:
I'm insane. Whimsical is the killer.

Case 3:
I'm Naive. Whimsical's role is undetermined.

We can confirm I am not paranoid.

Assuming I live to see tomorrow, we can make the following determinations:

Case 1:
I turn up a green. I cannot be insane.

Case 2:
I turn up a red. I cannot be naive.

Thus, if everyone shares their findings in this manner by the end of tomorrow we should be able to narrow everyone (with the exception of the person who dies tonight) down to two possibilities.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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I'm not the Naive cop.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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If anyone else investigated Whimsical, please share your finding so we can compare and potentially gain new hints to each of our sanities. I also advise we come up with a plan to assure EVERYONE is inspected next night so that if we can determine roles properly we know that everyone has been inspected at least once and can thus actually identify the killer.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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I investigated Ignoritus, who turned up as guilty. From that we can conclude that I'm not naive, but could potentially still be insane or paranoid.

I'd suggest splitting our cops into two ranks, and agreeing targets for them. If we all investigate the same person (sans, of course, the person being investigated if they are indeed a cop) and agree that out loud, it may induce the killer to go for them. Unless cop investigations are considered to have priority over maf hits so we would be able to use the information anyway. It's been a while since I've played a maf game so...
8flight wrote:ping
If a cop investigates somebody and they die the same night, does the cop still get a report?
raekuul wrote:I'm not the Naive cop.
Is there any reason not to tell us who you investigated?
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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8flight wrote:
TheVulpineHero1 wrote:
8flight wrote:ping
If a cop investigates somebody and they die the same night, does the cop still get a report?
No if the cop dies the same night. The cop will not get a report.
No, I meant if the person the cop investigated dies.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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TheVulpineHero1 wrote:
raekuul wrote:I'm not the Naive cop.
Is there any reason not to tell us who you investigated?
Whoops, and Ignoritus.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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Seems best to straight up announce who we checked, so

I'm not paranoid, because raekuul turned up innocent. The rest of my post would be a clone of Ignoritus'
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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raekuul - 1 guilty (ignoritus)
TheVulpineHero1 - 1 guilty (ignoritus)
Ignoritus - 1 innocent (Whimsical)
AmeijinMayo
Whimsical Calamari - 1 innocent (raekuul)

We need to keep this list up to date at all times. Also, AmeijinMayo who did you investigate and what result did you get?
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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AmeijinMayo wrote:Ping a ding ding
raekuul wrote: Also, AmeijinMayo who did you investigate and what result did you get?
Gonna help this along because it's feeling like a slow day.

Right now, incidentally, my suspicion falls mainly on AmeijinMayo for not posting, but I'm unsure about raekuul. Having to be asked to provide the name of his investigatee is a little sketchy, it feels, although I don't know enough about this game type to say what optimal report share strats are. What really seems scummy is that his first post claimed a guilty, but then he only revealed the person investigated after another person got a guilty report, and it was coincidentally the same. It sounds like a fakeclaim from a maf who just jumped on another claim (I should really have asked him before mentioning the subject of my own report), but on the other hand, it seems so obviously scummy that I'm not sure any sane maf would do it.

When it comes to the issue of lynching, I don't think we gain much from the potential lynch of a cop day one -- the risk of being two cops down and not knowing sanity is too great, so I'm voting for No Lynch
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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Definitely No Lynch. Trying to Sherlock Holmes guilt from subtle little things like that almost always results in innocent deaths.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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This is the one mafia setup where I can always agree with a Day 1 No Lynch, since victory and defeat hinges entirely on having as many reports as possible.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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waitaminute. Unvote, we still need a report from AmeijinMayo before moving to night.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 3

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I got innocent on AmeijinMayo.

I can't be the naive cop, as I got guilty on Ignoritus
I can't be the paranoid cop, as I got innocent on AmeijinMayo

Either Ignoritus or AmeijinMayo is the killer. Which one it is has yet to be seen. Unfortunately, since my results do reveal some form of truth, I will not survive to get another result.

Did anyone else investigate Igno or Ameijin?
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 3

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Investigation results thus far:

raekuul - 1 guilty (ignoritus), 1 innocent (AmeijinMayo)
TheVulpineHero1 - 1 guilty (ignoritus). DECEASED
Ignoritus - 1 innocent (Whimsical)
AmeijinMayo
Whimsical Calamari - 1 innocent (raekuul)
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 2

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Two people got Guilty on Ignoritus, but I got Innocent, just like my last read on raekuul.

At this point, I may be either Sane or Naive. I highly doubt I'm Insane.

I have some speculation, but I'll withhold until Ignoritus posts his read. I'd wait til Ameijin posted, too, but given that he's only posted twice anywhere else on the talkhaus since the game began, so I'm guessing he completely forgot about this.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 3

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Last words: I died doing what I loved. Pontificating.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 1

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I turned an innocent on raekuul, meaning I am either sane or naive.

Two turned red on me. Granted no one else knows this, but I know that I'm inno and thus insane cop and paranoid cop are accounted for assuming one wasn't a mafia lie. Vulpine obviously wasn't lying. So possibilities from my perspective:

Ignoritus (Confirmed) - Naive / Sane
Whimsical (Confirmed) - Naive / Sane
VulpineHero (Confirmed) - Paranoid / Insane
AmeijinMayo - Paranoid / Insane / Killer
raekuul - Paranoid / Insane / Killer

From everyone else's perspective however, I am of course a possibility for killer. So that means we've narrowed it down to:
-Me. This would mean that raekuul is sane and vulpine was paranoid, whimsical is naive. Obviously this doesn't match up to the list from my perspective because I know I'm not the killer, but understandably this is still an option to everyone else.

-Ameijin. This would mean raekuul is insane and vulpine was paranoid, with whimsical being naive or sane.

-raekuul. This would mean that I am sane, Vulpine was paranoid / insane, Whimsical is naive, Ameijin is paranoid / insane, and raekuul is lying through his teeth.


So how do we win this? If me and Whimsical investigate Ameijin, and Ameijin and raekuul investigate me we can find our killer. Me and whimsical are expected to turn up innocent. If either of us turns up guilty Ameijin is our killer. Otherwise if we both turn innocent we can confirm Ameijin is innocent and reduce the pool to me and raekuul. Ameijin and raekuul would be expected to turn up guilties. If either turned up innocent I'd be the killer. Otherwise if both turned guilty I am confirmed innocent and we reduced the pool to Ameijin and raekuul.

Obviously the killer will intervene by killing one of our investigators. However, I have calculated the consequences of each kill interaction, and there's actually very few kills that can be made without either outright revealing the killer or at the very least placing them in a substantially worse position. By carefully analyzing the kill made tonight, the claims tomorrow (of course paying special attention for any contradictory information), I believe we can narrow it down to one.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 3

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Ok, so my previous findings for my first investigation were that Whimsical turned up innocent. As for the next investigation, raekuul turned up guilty. With this, along the other findings of the others, I'm starting to believe that I may be the Insane Cop. But I can't just assume that, so I'll be sure to investigate Ignoritus as suggested by him in his last post to be sure.

Also, apologies on not being active, I've been mainly invested in getting something last week.
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Re: Dethy Classic Mafia Day 3

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Igno: I can't be paranoid because I got inno on Ameijin night 2. I'm either sane or insane.

Hey there AmeijinMayo. It's usually good form to drop in and give notice if you're going to disappear because of IRL reasons.

Here's the updated investigations list.

raekuul - 1 guilty (ignoritus), 1 innocent (AmeijinMayo)
TheVulpineHero1 - 1 guilty (ignoritus). DECEASED
Ignoritus - 2 innocent (Whimsical, raekuul)
AmeijinMayo - 1 innocent (Whimsical), 1 guilty (raekuul)
Whimsical Calamari - 2 innocent (raekuul, ignoritus)

Igno and Ameijin, investigate each other tonight. Calamari, investigate Ameijin. I'll be investigating Calamari (though I fully expect to wake up dead in the morning since I'm the closest to confirming sanity and have been leading the organizational efforts).

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