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Who the heck was BlackDS?

Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

Okay, I've been here long enough (9 years). Who the heck was that guy?

As far as I know, he was a troll on the early talkhaus, but I know next to nothing about him. Despite having the Do Not Feed group created specifically for him. But he doesn't seem to be particularly hated?

My only brief exposure to this guy was a post he made somewhere, someone else responded "Wait I thought you were banned?" and he responded "I thought I was too" (this is his 2nd to last post here).
But then that was the last I heard of this guy, until he was invited to make a post game level for either MAGLX1 or 2.
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Postby Awoo » 2 months ago

I have no idea but this thread might have something to do with it:
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seriously i have no idea and just found a way to look up some of his posts o.o

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Postby ano0maly » 2 months ago

BlackDS is so long ago even I don't know what was with him

But you've been here basically since talkhaus began, aren't you the one that's supposed to be explaining him to us
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Postby Leet » 2 months ago

Nobody will tell us
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Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

ano0maly wrote: BlackDS is so long ago even I don't know what was with him

But you've been here basically since talkhaus began, aren't you the one that's supposed to be explaining him to us
I only joined a few episodes into An Untitled Story. So I think I pretty much missed the first year of the Talkhaus. Almost a whole year.

I guess we'll have to hope someone like Argumentable comes back to share his opinion.
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Postby jayScribble » 2 months ago

For the deal with BlackDS, they were the worst kind of forum posters, like flaming, spamming, trolling, creating new accounts to bypass bans, asking others to post their responses, all the kinds of activities that breaks the rules of the forums.

But at the same time, it was very early on in the talkhaus' life, so early weirdness was afoot as well.
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Postby KobaBeach » 2 months ago

my favorite part is how if you did what his sig asked and took his post count and subtracted 1400 you'd get a negative result (-231)
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Postby Ashan » 2 months ago

I ran onto him on reddit at one point. I mentioned talkhaus and he seemed pretty embarrassed about the whole thing.

He was just a kid that used to get banned a lot to the point where it was kind of his "thing." He contributed a level to ASMT which had a message box referencing his frequent bannings.
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Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

I just wonder what the catalyst was to create a whole usergroup just for him.

And considering who the other guy in that group is, these two just seem like they're on different leagues with eachother.
The description of do not feed says "the best of the worst... may they RIP". I don't feel that is a very good description anymore...
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Postby ano0maly » 2 months ago

KobaBeach wrote: my favorite part is how if you did what his sig asked and took his post count and subtracted 1400 you'd get a negative result (-231)
Well, the post count field got reset at some point. And Forum Games posts don't count for it.
Sebby19 wrote: I just wonder what the catalyst was to create a whole usergroup just for him.

And considering who the other guy in that group is, these two just seem like they're on different leagues with eachother.
The description of do not feed says "the best of the worst... may they RIP". I don't feel that is a very good description anymore...
Can we move BlackDS to "a relic of the past" group
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Postby Ashan » 2 months ago

Sebby19 wrote: I just wonder what the catalyst was to create a whole usergroup just for him.

And considering who the other guy in that group is, these two just seem like they're on different leagues with eachother.
The description of do not feed says "the best of the worst... may they RIP". I don't feel that is a very good description anymore...
I've said in the past that I think it's a horribly stupid decision to put Willhart in the do not feed group. In fact I had an entire second half of my post talking about this and I deleted it but since someone else brought it up I'll echo the sentiment.

What was once a silly in-forum joke poking fun at a kid who got banned a lot is now putting him side-by-side with an adult who likely committed legit criminal acts of stalking and harassment. I think there are people who secretly loved the Willhart drama cause they get to pat themselves on the back for proclaiming bad things are bad (remember the plush tiger burning video). And then we had to put Willhart on a pedestal on the front page of the site to remind ourselves of the time we took a brave stance against an obviously bad thing. I try not to use the term "virtue signalling" because it's basically a meme but I can't think of any better way to describe how this community reacted to something that should have been taken much more seriously.

Highlighting him like that is incredibly distasteful and makes me think nobody actually cared about what he did.
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Postby KobaBeach » 2 months ago

I won't call this virtue signaling because that's literally just gamer speak for "this person can't possibly care about morals, people dont have moral compasses, they can only care about things if it benefits them, so its okay that I'm an awful human being", nor will I start projecting about people "abusing the Willhart situation for brownie points" but I'll say that a legitimate, dangerous stalker who has literally driven someone off the internet shouldn't be placed in a group literally named "do not feed".

That is pretty much implying he's just a harmless troll who should just be ignored and laughed it, when he's a very dangerous harasser who should not be interacted with.

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Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

At the risk of derailing the topic further, I'll just say I was blissfully unaware of why he (I don't even want to mention his name anymore) was banned for months, until raocow's birthday in 2018.

Horikawa commented Happy Birthday to him, I decide to click on her channel because it's been awhile since I even looked there (curious what she's been up to), and then look through her recent videos. My reaction was simple:



holy shit.
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Postby ano0maly » 2 months ago

From what I remember in Shoutbox when that happened (the "do not feed" change), Horikawa Otane herself placed him in that group after consulting all the mods and confirming that they were in agreement about ousting him. But I did feel back then that it may be a bad idea to draw further attention to him like this, and it's true that using this group feels misleading.
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Postby Ashan » 2 months ago

I still have no idea how to parse Horikawa's reaction to this whole thing but I remember being confused when she made a video about it and added inappropriate sad music in the background, and I am confused now to hear that it was Horikawa's idea to highlight her stalker in a special group on the front of the forum that makes it look like the beef is just a joke

But regardless of that, I do believe this is not the first time this topic has been brought up again because someone was confused about why Willhart was in there, so if we want this topic to be forever looming on the horizon to be brought up again, just keep it there I guess.
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Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

Well, I guess that pretty much answers my question on who was BlackDS:

Though if Argumentable ever shows up again, can someone point him here? I would appreciate listening to some first-hand experience, especially from the perspective of a mod.


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Postby Ashan » 2 months ago

Argumentable is still active on twitter
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Postby KobaBeach » 2 months ago

i legitimately believed it was one of the mods who placed him there
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Ashan wrote:Argumentable is still active on twitter
But he's not here

And I'm confused by Koba's post. Horikawa is a mod.
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Postby KobaBeach » 2 months ago

one of the other mods i meant

like i get why she placed him there but the "do not feed" title kinda feels inappropriate
then again this is talkhaus and non-sequiturs reign
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Postby Leet » 2 months ago

I feel like nobody ever remembers that the forum roles listed at the bottom of the front page haven't been updated in many years, and thus include one group that isn't relevant anymore, are missing at least one group that is relevant, and list one group that also hasn't been updated in years.

They weren't placed there with what you're seeing now in mind. Most people (such as whoever added him to that role) probably didn't even think about how they're listed at the bottom, and no mod has since either, at least not for long enough to consider updating it.
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Leet wrote: I feel like nobody ever remembers that the forum roles listed at the bottom of the front page haven't been updated in many years, and thus include one group that isn't relevant anymore, are missing at least one group that is relevant, and list one group that also hasn't been updated in years.

They weren't placed there with what you're seeing now in mind. Most people (such as whoever added him to that role) probably didn't even think about how they're listed at the bottom, and no mod has since either, at least not for long enough to consider updating it.
i think that's the actual reason. i wasn't aware of it at least. maybe we can sort that out

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Leet wrote: I feel like nobody ever remembers that the forum roles listed at the bottom of the front page haven't been updated in many years, and thus include one group that isn't relevant anymore, are missing at least one group that is relevant, and list one group that also hasn't been updated in years.

They weren't placed there with what you're seeing now in mind. Most people (such as whoever added him to that role) probably didn't even think about how they're listed at the bottom, and no mod has since either, at least not for long enough to consider updating it.
Sorry for wet blanket-ing earlier, then.

I just. I just hate seeing Horikawa like this.
I wish Willhart fucking died already or something.
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Re: Who the heck was BlackDS?

Postby YelseyKing » 2 months ago

I was going to remove Willhart from the "do not feed" category in response to this discussion, but apparently someone already did.

Edit: Just noticed Rena's post. Guess she was the one who removed it. Welp.
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Postby Sebby19 » 2 months ago

woah. I did not foresee that creating this topic would lead an actual thing happening.

Since rena is around, what happened to these two usergroups: brain in a jar and devotee of patchouli (or something like that).

I can understand why the orange one went away, since Thissa is no longer the site admin (shame to see some evidence of history disappear), but I don't know why your personal pink one went away too.
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