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raocow wrote:Are you uploading in non-track bar mode? I find that helps.

atruong18 wrote: spoiler of explanations of game mechanic abuse: (koopas)

also the koopa killing itself thing shouldnt be considered as a 'normal method' since this is abusing game sprite functions.
destory a shell-less koopa = despawn koopa
destory a shell = despawn shell
destory a disco koopa = despawn shell and not koopa
i fully comprehended this after witnessing it many times through the level, so i know its workings and how to manipulate it more easily.

since koopa and shell are not related in terms of sprite spawning, by having the disco shell appear, then respawn the koopa, you can have the disco shell destroy the koopa, which despawns the koopa. because the disco shell is considered a shell, once you despawn the disco shell, the shell returns at its spawn location.

yellow koopas:
- hops over spinning shells to avoid getting killed
- enters a motionless shell to become disco shell
- follows the direction where the player is
from this, it is usually planned to have a player move from left to right, so having a shell to the left of the koopa thats moving left towards the incoming player creates disco shell.
however, if you move off the spawnpoint screen of the koopa and return, the koopa will move to the right, away from the shell.
this gives you a change to have another shell on your arsenal

basically, i learned about respawning and how to use it to my advantage

spoiler about the emerald jar message box: (shells)

the message box was really misleading, indeed. in the beginning, i was unsure if i necessarily need specifically THE emerald jar. but progress showed that you can get another green shell later on (i saw it on the edge of my screen and based on that assumption)

even though it is that, i still decided to keep getting the green shell at the beginning for backup purposes even though it takes some time away. shells that i deemed to be safe to get and use:
1. yellow shell that you can use at the beginning to get the vine to spawn
2. green shell at the top left you are expected to get and not the yellow shell
3. green shell you get at the spikeballs by going back to get it without the koopa in the way
4. resetpoint location where you get a free shell and a mushroom
5. yellow shell at the break blocks which you can respawn

the other shells are more risky to get to, however.

in the video, i always get the intended green shell to follow what the game wanted you to do. but since theres no specific shell required, if i lose the green shell by a bullet at the beginning, i grab the yellow shell, if the yellow shell gets destroyed before i get to the tiny gap spinjump, then i grab the respawn green shell.
i drop the shell (1-3) to destroy the disco shell at the tiny gap spinjump, to destroy it. kicking it can miss the disco shell at certain occasions, so i dont recommend. also the gap to spinjump is too small, making it difficult to execute perfectly. destroying the obstacle is a better decision.
you can destroy the disco shell and run back to get another shell, but the shell-less koopa will return, putting you in the same position.
shell 4 is a required to get the pswitch. shell 5 is a backup for shell 4, but involves risk, so using the reset door is a better alternative (as demonstrated variously in the video because of vine not spawning)
finally, shell 5 was the 'intended' shell to be used for the 2nd pswitch, so i attempted to bring it up there. none of my attempts succeeded because of the disco shell, however.

what can you expect, playing this for roughly 8 hours makes you learn too many things

FroggerbobT wrote:1-3 is the shell-hell right?
if so, it's possible to carry a shell throughout the entire thing.