What the Hell? (public release like it was no thing)

[morsel/morceau]

Three things to ask about

• In the room before Wendy with the on/off switches, the only thing scrolling is the background. Is this deliberate?
• I noticed the key in the question block in the final area of 'hell coop'. Is there a secret exit?
• Using the power-baloon glitch (holding left and right directions at same time) I got behind the goal (which didn't spawn, probably because the p-baloon was still active) in the final area of 'phoenix pit' and I saw there were Yoshi wings in the question block. Again, does this lead to a secret?

[raocow]

1- wait what? The lava doesn't move up and down when you press the switches??
What the hell happened in this thing, that doesn't make any sense.

2- before I modified the koopas, the key was used as a stepping stone over the the munchers.
Wait... in said last area, does the layer 2 work, can you interact with it and all, or is it all weird again.

3 - no, though I don't know what it's doing there. I'll just remove it.

edit - man, speaking of layer 2, like, all the other layer 2 levels work well? The phoenix pit's first two stages, basically all room but the 'mushroom platform' of the wendy castle, the second part of both the 'betrayal' and 'heaven'...

[morsel/morceau]

1- no lava at all

2- I'm not sure how it's supposed to work, but I was able to complete the level alright. It scrolls rapidly up when you stand on it (like the rope level, 'oops') or down with you if you're falling, and scrolls back and forth horizontally too.

3-...

edit- yeah, I think everything else was as it should be. The on/off room was strange because there seemed to be something missing and I wasn't sure if it was a joke or something.

[raocow]

Remember the one room with the sumo, and the door that just didn't appear? It's like the exact same thing happens.

So now the room before leads to a single one-room level, so by going exiting through screen 0, which was my original fix, it should work properly now.

[FroggerbobT]

dang KBB really broke that level that he tas'd...

[KingYoshi89]

raocow, Can you tell me what this song is it please ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsVglnz00S4

[Argumentable]

Yeah you should probably go ahead and compile and release that list

[raocow]

Dang it peeps, wait for the official release!

Also that's Holy Orders from Guitly Gear. Though that's an older version of the hack as that music now plays in a different room.

[FroggerbobT]

guilty gear's an awesome game to use for the music RC. have you got the star issue fixed yet lol?
i had the same issue with stupid bridges that didnt line up perfectly.

[raocow]

As far as I know the game should completely work now? Though problems keeps popping out, haha

[KingYoshi89]

As far as I know the game should completely work now? Though problems keeps popping out, haha

As know the maps keep doing probleme, right ?

[raocow]

What? No, I mean like map things I somehow didn't do right, or the recent layer 2 on/off thing.

[KingYoshi89]

What? No, I mean like map things I somehow didn't do right, or the recent layer 2 on/off thing.

If Fusoya should make a new version of Lunar Magic that will fix it ! Haha,

[raocow]

I just compiled the music credit.

For those of you who are impatient, here it is

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overworld
Mighty Morphing Power Rangers - Go, Go, Power Rangers! ported by Blue Warrior

P-Switch
The Beatles - Yesterday ported by Ice Man

intro place
Zombies Ate My Neighbours - Level 2: "Evening of the Undead" ported by SNN
Katamari Damacy - Nananan Katamari Sepia ported by Kyoseron

Look'it them hills!
La-Mulana - Mr. Explorer ported by EvilLemmy
Ys 3: Wanderers from Ys - Eldam Mountains ported by Kyoseron
Guilty Gear Series - "Holy Orders -Be Just Or Be Dead-" ported by Holy Order Sol
Earthbound - Onett ported by Supertails

happy winter place
Katamari Damacy - Nananan Katamari Sepia ported by Kyoseron
CUSTOM - False Ideal by Jascha
Monty on the Run - 'Game Over' ported by CrispyYoshi

sand forest theatre
Volleyfire - Music B ported by spigmike
Crash Bandicoot - Temple Ruins by MidiGuy
CUSTOM - Moderato Extravaganza! by S.N.N.

enemy hopping level
Bomber man land [GBA] Grass route ported by 188
Cheetah Men 2 Theme ported by Obsidian Serpent
Crash Bandicoot - Temple Ruins by MidiGuy

phoenix pit
Sido - Herz (Instrumental) ported by MarioLegendary
Sonic CD - "Wacky Workbench: Past" ported by Coffee Man
Mario Golf - Title Screen ported by Delmaru

holy goat house
Ys 3: Wanderers from Ys - Ballacetine Castle ported by Kyoseron
CUSTOM - A Christmas Compilation by spigmike

puzzle boat and cie
CUSTOM - Bongo Breakdown by spigmike
Game & Watch Gallery - Gallery Corner (2nd Column) ported by A Yoshi
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour - Blooper Bay ported by Supertails

destiny bucket
*Secret of Evermore - "Ivor Tower: Dog Maze" ported by S.N.N.
Turrican 2 - "The Great Bath" ported by S.N.N.
Pikmin - Forest Navel ported by Supertails

shockhaus 5000
*Kirby and the Amazing Mirror - Radish Ruins ported by Supertails
Snowboard Kids - Quicksand Valley ported by Marx
Touhou 8 - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke ported by Kyoseron

cedar town
Game and Watch Gallery - "Manhole" ported by Kyoseron
Banjo-Kazooie - "Gnawty's House" ported by Opposable
Banjo Tooie - Hailfire Peaks (Lava Side) ported by Exor

betrayal hill
*Kirby and the Amazing Mirror - Radish Ruins ported by Supertails
Banjo-Kazooie - Treasure Trove Cove ported by Supertails
Ristar - "Du-Di-Da!" ported by Opposable

misplaced heaven
Harvest Moon - New Year's Festival ported by Supertails
*Megaman 2 - Bubble Man's Stage ported by Jimmy52905
Mario Party 2 - "In the Pipe" ported by Opposable

chalry shack attack
Zelda: Link to the Past: Dark Overworld ported by S.N.N.
Mega Man 1 - Elec Man's Stage ported by Jimmy52905
Final Fantasy 6 - The Decisive Battle ported by Lachesis
Touhou 6: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil - "Rumia's Theme" ported by S.N.N.

oops!
Sonic the Hedgehog - "Marble Zone" ported by Opposable

super normal castle
Final Fantasy 1 - Matoya's Cave ported by Caracc
CUSTOM - Time Tower by WhiteYoshiEgg

penultimatum
Dr. Mario - "Chill" ported by S.N.N.
Super Smash Brothers - Metal Mario's Stage ported by S.N.N.
Yoshi's Island - "Make Eggs, Throw Eggs" ported by Jimmy52905
Final Fantasy 3/6 - Terra's Theme ported by S.N.N.
CUSTOM - Bowser's Mountain by Jascha
Mega Man 3: Spark Man Close Call....! ported and arranged by Mike

hell coop dot com
Final Fantasy 3/6 - Edgar and Sabin's Theme ported by S.N.N.
Whacky Whistlin' by Jascha
Super Mario Land - "Chai Kingdom" ported by S.N.N.
Kirby's Adventure - Forest Stage ported by Kyoseron
Sonic 2 - Mystic Cave Zone 1P ported by S.N.N.
Mega Man 2 - Metal Man's Stage ported by Jimmy52905

endsville
F-Zero GX - Big Blue ported by MidiGuy

[kilon]

That's a very good choice for the endgame. Admittedly I haven't heard it with SMW instruments, but I like the original.

The rest of the choices are good to. I have to see all levels to see how well they fit, but that will happen eventually.

[SpikyRat]

raocow, if it wasn't for the fact that I like your LPs so much, this hack would make me love to see your head on a stake.

[raocow]

Man, I wish the Hard Hack Collab would be released by now. "a swimming level" is the result of me actively trying to do something 'hard for the sake of hard'

[StarkMaximum]

I haven't really been impressed by this hack quite yet based on the videos I've seen, but at least one problem was soothed by reading your music choices - I hadn't heard anything I was very fond of in the videos you posted, and I'm biased against FFVI, so hearing the songs from that game didn't help my opinion any (and it looks like there's a third, so oh boy), but reading the full "tracklist", it's good to see some lesser-known and more varied songs getting into your hack - Mr. Explorer I've always been fond of, and I'm surprised and impressed to see Matoya's Cave from the original Final Fantasy hidden somewhere in the game, as well as a tune from Ristar, which has a really good soundtrack I think.

Anyway. I'm rambling and I don't want this post to sound really bitter or anything, I just wanted to point out that at least some of the music in the game I'm going to like. I don't mean to come off like "Ohhh this hack has no music I like and my opinions matter more than the Internet so I'm gonna complain like a stinky old man". I guess I'm just sorry I have so little to say about the hack that I enjoy.

Plus it doesn't really help when every criticism I've seen is brushed off with "oh well i like it that way". It's great that you like it, but I personally feel the hack shouldn't be just for you, it should be for you and the player to enjoy together, in a way.

[raocow]

The reason why I'm dismissive about some of the criticism are, well, those that I dismiss go against what I'm trying to do. The hack is more of an experimentation, and now what I would consider a 'genuine finished hack', more like a series of experiment. Some of these include background/forground explorations - and since they are experiments I believe I need to keep the sucesses as well as the failures, for the sake of fairness.

The result is, yes, an uneven difficulty curve and some akward level.

The joke of a narrative is really just me being silly, as usual.

So yeah, if something just flatout doesn't work, or something is a lot more awkard then I see it, I want to know it, I want to know how things could be done differently, but just telling me 'this is bad' or 'I don't like this' doesn't help me at all, and I WILL be dismissive.

[StarkMaximum]

Okay, I can understand that. I guess I'm looking at the whole thing from the wrong perspective, or at least an entirely different one from yours.

[morsel/morceau]

The new coins are looking pretty good, I'd say. Seeing you having trouble with the boo-rings today reminded me of how you had a similar arrangement set up later on, only this time with (fast) autoscrolling. That was probably the single most difficult (or 'awkward') thing in the hack that I remember.

[kilon]

The new coins are looking pretty good, I'd say.

I was just about to say how I don't really like them. Just like the munchers.
That is difference in opinion for you.

[flameofdoubt]

I don't remember the munchers, but i must say i'm not a fan of the coins. Maybe this was the intention but teeth are such solid bulky things that when they're there as coins and there are lots of them the screen feels very crowded. Not sure what i think about the fact that they dance...hmm

[FroggerbobT]

I think what RC means by "awkward" is really supposed to be "crazy-BEEPing hard"...

[Chdata]

Hey raocow, aren't you using Romi's addmusic? Didn't ya know you can change the title screen music with it too?

Look for this in the addmusic configuration thing that has the list of all the songs. It's at the very top so you shouldn't have any trouble.

[SETTINGS]
Create.msc=1
FreeRAM=7EC100
TitleMusic=01
[OVERWORLD]
0A=Starlit SkyS.txt
0B=
0C=
0D=
0E=

If I were to set
Titlemusic=01

to

Titlemusic=0A

I'd hear Starlit Skys.txt in the title screen. (Where you'd see the giant SUPER MARIO WORLD text.)