raocow's talkhaus

WestonSmith wrote:Mario Maker will lag behind SMBX and rom hacking on three fronts:

(1) Aesthetic options
(2) World Building
(3) The ability to go beyond the programming (opening up new avenues and options years after the games release)

Having said that, Mario Maker looks like a must buy.

(1) It's polished as all get out (both as an editor and from a gameplay front)
(2) The new gameplay elements and slew of options puts vanilla SMBX and Mario World to shame (not to mention the NSMB franchise)
(3) It should have a much larger community than the online Mario fangame community. Bigger community = more levels and more people playing your levels

Short of legal action, Mario Maker won't destroy the online Mario Fan Game community. The limitations of an official builder will prevent that. But then I still enjoy messing around with Mario Paint despite access to much better art and music programs, so I suspect Mario Maker will have legs on it for years to come. This game will probably be the Wii U's crowning jewel, short of something spectacular popping up over the next year or two. And judging by this year's E3, that ain't happening.

S1eth wrote:"A postgame level created by a certain guest level maker had to be pulled from the game because the company said person works for cannot allow him to show any kind of endorsement for SMBX or any other product that could be seen as a competitor to Mario Maker."
is my guess, but the whole premise is wishful thinking in itself.

Horikawa Otane wrote: (Also, feel free to feel excited about Mario Maker. I'm not trying to stop you or anything. All I was trying to say was that a formal Mario Maker MaGL is unlikely as neither myself or raocow share that excitement. Other contests could be neat and I certainly won't hesitate to accept them in the subforum should you choose to make them. As someone burned by Mario Maker, I'm unfortunately kinda biased against it regardless of its final outcome or quality, but that's totally my problem-ish so I won't let it impact my modding or whatever)

Tenlade wrote:Also calling it "burned by" seems a bit much when this is nintendo's games and characters afterall, and nothing they do would be spiting you personally.

AlchemistHohenheim wrote:

S1eth wrote:"A postgame level created by a certain guest level maker had to be pulled from the game because the company said person works for cannot allow him to show any kind of endorsement for SMBX or any other product that could be seen as a competitor to Mario Maker."
is my guess, but the whole premise is wishful thinking in itself.

That would make some sense, but given that Mario Maker has been known about since last E3 (a year ago), and MAGLX2 started sign-ups about 5 months ago, I'm having some trouble envisioning a scenario where something was planned and progressed far enough to be an actual thing only for the guest contributor to suddenly go "OH WAIT SHIT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY DO THIS BECAUSE MARIO MAKER EXISTS, DELETE EVERYTHING, SORRY."

Unless work on the MAGLX2 postgame started like 9 whole months before sign-ups even opened.

SAJewers wrote:I dunno, after seeing the packaging and presentation of the last two VLDCs, I really feel like SMWC got it right, and packaged it in such a great fashion, that looking back at MaGLX1 just looks like the complete wrong way to do it for me now.

Ivy wrote:I hate to be the debbie downer here, but I hope the actual levels submitted to the contest aren't fully eclipsed by this magnificent post-game that's been a lot larger than any of us could have anticipated.

Ivy wrote:Oh, I didn't watch that stream. Does autoscroll exist at all?

Willhart wrote:I think those new skins are really good looking too. I hope they made them different looking on different modes. Having official smb, smb2, smb3, and smw versions of spriteart for smash characters would be useful.

Edit: especially so if they also have all the different power-up states too.

Weird Goonie wrote:Well this is odd according to this video SMW lava isn't instant death in the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3snfnk_iUA

Yoshi can walk on lava too.

Weird Goonie wrote:Well this is odd according to this video SMW lava isn't instant death in the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3snfnk_iUA

Yoshi can walk on lava too.

Oh yeah it was confirmed in the first live treehouse on Tuesday that the amiibo costumes only work with the SMB 1 theme.
It's a shame I'd like to see 16-bit Wii fit trainer.

Not sure if this video was posted here yet but it shows off some of the online features:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Jq2X0ZaDk